Chimera 0.x.x (perpetual thread)
This is the last title change to reflect the nature of this thread. Is *this* one okay?
I've also changed all my pictures to links for the bandwidth-impaired.
No more complaining!
Â*
Â*
Get the latest milestone build here:
<a href="http://chimera.mozdev.org/installation.html"; target="_blank">http://chimera.mozdev.org/installation.html</a>;
...or get a nightly build of it here:
<a href="ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/chimera/nightly/latest-trunk/"; target="_blank">ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/chimera/nightly/latest-trunk/</a>;
Just keep in mind that nightly builds are inherently feature-incomplete, buggy, and possibly crash-prone. However, they may give you a sneak peek into future options, features, and improvements. Rule of thumb: install nightly builds at your own risk.
Scroll down to read the details on each update since 0.2.0...
-----------------
[ 06-10-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>
I've also changed all my pictures to links for the bandwidth-impaired.
No more complaining!
Â*
Â*
Get the latest milestone build here:
<a href="http://chimera.mozdev.org/installation.html"; target="_blank">http://chimera.mozdev.org/installation.html</a>;
...or get a nightly build of it here:
<a href="ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/chimera/nightly/latest-trunk/"; target="_blank">ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/chimera/nightly/latest-trunk/</a>;
Just keep in mind that nightly builds are inherently feature-incomplete, buggy, and possibly crash-prone. However, they may give you a sneak peek into future options, features, and improvements. Rule of thumb: install nightly builds at your own risk.
Scroll down to read the details on each update since 0.2.0...
-----------------
[ 06-10-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>
Comments
The most annoying thing for me about all these Gecko-based browsers is that "location" and "tools" aren't separable - ie you can't just show the location, you have to show back/forward/reload... too.
<strong>Are you using some kind of theme</strong><hr></blockquote>Yep.
[quote]<strong>you can't just show the location</strong><hr></blockquote>Errmm... wrong. Chimera uses a standard Cocoa toolbar so you can simply drag off the items you don't want:
<a href="http://brad.project-think.com/images/ChimeraSnap005.png"; target="_blank">picture</a>
[ 04-15-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]
[ 05-01-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>
Neat, didn't know. So does the "location" entry box and toolbar resize automatically or what?
<a href="http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/internet_utilities/chimera.html"; target="_blank">apple site</a>
[ 04-20-2002: Message edited by: thegelding ]</p>
it is simple yet pretty also....love the tabs and now i can add minimal preferences and use bookmarks and such....but how do i increase the text size??? g
did i mention that it is fast??really fast...get my mail from work in half the time as IE or Netscape 6.2.2.... love the tabs (repeating myself)...how many tabs can be opened at one time??
and where did you get it?
<strong>starfleet x, what osx theme are you using?
and where did you get it?
The theme is called "Smooth Stripes" and I believe it comes with Duality.
Chimera can now open URLs sent to it from other apps, so you can now make Chimera your default browser and not have it sit there looking stupid when you tell it to load something.
Text Zoom has been implemented, so you can now increase and decrease the font size used in a Web page.
Chimera now obeys the new minimum font size pref, ensuring that Quartz-rendered fonts don't fall below the typical anti-aliasing cutoff point. Quartz rendering has been improved. In addition to being speedier, it now has fixes for printing and for text spacing.
Chimera now has a bookmarks toolbar. Like the Mozilla Classic personal toolbar, Chimera's toolbar can wrap to multiple rows and supports pages and folders.
Bookmarks management has been improved. You can now specify where you want to create a new bookmark. You can now create new folders. The sidebar tree widget has been enhanced to support more keyboard navigation (left/right arrows to open/close, return to launch, delete key to delete, etc.).
Bookmark groups have been fully implemented. When adding a bookmark with multiple tabs open, you have the option of bookmarking all the tabs as a single group. Use this feature to load bundles of pages in a single click!
Background tab loading will now work. Background tabs will now refresh properly if left unattended.<hr></blockquote>
* Well, text size is back up to (AppleInsider is much more readable now).
* The Bookmarks Toolbar may be a nice addition for some users, but I never use those and with I could turn it off. Clicking the toolbar on/off widget does not hide the Bookmarks Toolbar like OmniWeb does. IMO, it *should* hide it, leaving the document's view only.
* Bookmark management is slightly improved, allowing you to create separators and properly drop bookmarks in folders, but you still can't move or edit existing bookmarks.
* Still no plugins.
* Downloading is still half-baked and the window still shows no progress.
* As seen in the picture below, there are some issues with the window title not matching the frontmost tab.
* Window resizing seems sloer... maybe it's just me.
* Text zooming works, but it freezes up the app for a few seconds while it re-renders the page.
* There's a checkable menu item for "Smooth Text" but trying to uncheck it does nothing yet.
* The "dancing text" bug is still there.
* Navigation in text entry boxes is still wonky. For example, skipping ahead with option-rightarrow stops and freezes at any punctuation.
* Form popup menus still don't work.
<a href="http://brad.project-think.com/images/NavigatorSnap001.png"; target="_blank"> see a picture</a>
STILL A MAJOR ANNOYANCE:
* Navigator pushes a window to the front when it loads, even if you hide the app. ARRGG...
[ 05-01-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>
Gees... I just spent like all of yesterday and the day before just trying to get ahold of 0.2.1, because people.netscape.com was so horribly bogged down. Thankfully some nice person in #mozilla mirrored it on the getchimera iDisk at my request. 0.2.2 looks to have a few good improvements. What I would like to see more improved are the preferences, at this point, because they're looking pretty spare (though compared to Mozilla, simplicity is a good thing, I suppose). And there are a few bugs in tabbed browsing I've encounted that have kept me from using it full time (side note: It seems like the only browser that I never encounter a bug in anymore is IE. Shocking.
StarfleetX, where are you getting these prereleases? I'd like to get them as well, and I'd even like to become involved with Chimera/Navigator, as it's turning out to be a really great and promising project.
It turns out that the 0.2.2 I got was the same as is up now. How did I get it early? Well, the new version was actually up earlier today for a brief instance and someone else snagged it before it disappeared and mirrored it.
Can't login to the forums with both Moz and Nav running.
The bookmark all tabs is very cool.
There is no pref for the personal toolbar... I use it, but with nothing in it, it should be hidden.
Bookmarks are getting better. Can't wait for drag and drop organizing as well as functioning contextual menus for bookmarks.
Speed seems about the same for me.
Starfleet: the windows jumping in front of one another has been an ongoing and incredibly annoying bug in mozilla. The current incarnation is here:<a href="http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137015"; target="_blank">Annoying Focus Bug</a>
[ 04-21-2002: Message edited by: foamy ]</p>
I've never dealt with proxies myself, but I thought you could use the System Prefs Network pane to set your proxies. No? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
[ 04-21-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>