Reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Lisa writes the speech on America, and then she sees all the pigs running around outside parliament.. Only the pigs are British this time..
Please expand. Cool because you didn´t read the link or cool because you like large companies stealing* the ideas of small independent developers?
*Not nessesary in the legal meaning but in every other definition of the word.
Apple, like MS, in in a crossfire. Users demand the company put everything, including the much thrown about kitchen sink into the OS, or apps supporting it. Then there come the complaints when they actually do it.
Apple has bought programs, and hired developers in the past, when they think that their work warrants it. Obviously, they don't always think that.
Sometimes I think that Apple is right, and sometimes I think they are wrong. But, it's a tough call.
Sometimes Apple is working on something for years, on and off, then a developer comes out with something similar. What should Apple do then?
Other times, Apple is first. Then a developer coms up with a copy of Apple's work, but with improvements. Has anyone pointed a finger at those developers, and said that they shouldn't have stolen Apple's ideas, even if there were improvenments?
That never happens. But when Apple then upgrades their own, first to market product, THEY are blamed for using features from the copycat program of the developer. Features that they were most likely going to put into the progran anyway.
This last point was my point exactly. Ireland is painting Apple as an innoncent small player that greedy predators want to suck blood from. If you accept thats interpretation then you also have to accept that Apple play that role and thus can´t be that innocent itself.
This last point was my point exactly. Ireland is painting Apple as an innoncent small player that greedy predators want to suck blood from. If you accept thats interpretation then you also have to accept that Apple play that role and thus can´t be that innocent itself.
No one is innocent. Even if a company tries to be fair, there will be times that they won't be.
This last point was my point exactly. Ireland is painting Apple as an innoncent small player that greedy predators want to suck blood from. If you accept thats interpretation then you also have to accept that Apple play that role and thus can´t be that innocent itself.
With all due respect Anders, why would you waste time arguing with Ireland and Melgross?
Ireland is a troll, who makes posts that have more exclamation points and smilies than complete sentences, and mel's head would explode at the very notion of considering the possibility that Apple isn't perfect.
With all due respect Anders, why would you waste time arguing with Ireland and Melgross?
Ireland is a troll, who makes posts that have more exclamation points and smilies than complete sentences, and mel's head would explode at the very notion of considering the possibility that Apple isn't perfect.
I want to correct you on that. I don´t think mel is that bad all the time ()
With all due respect Anders, why would you waste time arguing with Ireland and Melgross?
Ireland is a troll, who makes posts that have more exclamation points and smilies than complete sentences, and mel's head would explode at the very notion of considering the possibility that Apple isn't perfect.
Hey! We weren't arguing! My comments were more in support.
The only association and confusion between Apple Corps and Apple Computer I experience is what Apple Corps is creating. Maybe they should go sue themselves.
The only association and confusion between Apple Corps and Apple Computer I experience is what Apple Corps is creating. Maybe they should go sue themselves.
The only association and confusion between Apple Corps and Apple Computer I experience is what Apple Corps is creating. Maybe they should go sue themselves.
You've deeply nailed it with just one post, thoroughly.
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Originally posted by Jimzip
Reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Lisa writes the speech on America, and then she sees all the pigs running around outside parliament.. Only the pigs are British this time..
Jimzip
Oh yeah. Apple in the role as the voice of reason and innocence. Thats believable.
Originally posted by Anders
Oh yeah. Apple in the role as the voice of reason and innocence. Thats believable.
Cool!
Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
Guys...it doesn't much matter. It has no real legal bearing on the case whether Steve's reasoning was because he liked the Beatles or not.
That's...actually true.
Too bad.
I was going to divide our search up.
I would take the first million pages, Kickaha would do the second million, you would do the third million...
Originally posted by Ireland
Cool!
Please expand. Cool because you didn´t read the link or cool because you like large companies stealing* the ideas of small independent developers?
*Not nessesary in the legal meaning but in every other definition of the word.
Originally posted by Anders
Please expand. Cool because you didn´t read the link or cool because you like large companies stealing* the ideas of small independent developers?
*Not nessesary in the legal meaning but in every other definition of the word.
Apple, like MS, in in a crossfire. Users demand the company put everything, including the much thrown about kitchen sink into the OS, or apps supporting it. Then there come the complaints when they actually do it.
Apple has bought programs, and hired developers in the past, when they think that their work warrants it. Obviously, they don't always think that.
Sometimes I think that Apple is right, and sometimes I think they are wrong. But, it's a tough call.
Sometimes Apple is working on something for years, on and off, then a developer comes out with something similar. What should Apple do then?
Other times, Apple is first. Then a developer coms up with a copy of Apple's work, but with improvements. Has anyone pointed a finger at those developers, and said that they shouldn't have stolen Apple's ideas, even if there were improvenments?
That never happens. But when Apple then upgrades their own, first to market product, THEY are blamed for using features from the copycat program of the developer. Features that they were most likely going to put into the progran anyway.
So, is that fair? It should cut both ways, right?
Originally posted by melgross
So, is that fair? It should cut both ways, right?
This last point was my point exactly. Ireland is painting Apple as an innoncent small player that greedy predators want to suck blood from. If you accept thats interpretation then you also have to accept that Apple play that role and thus can´t be that innocent itself.
Originally posted by Anders
This last point was my point exactly. Ireland is painting Apple as an innoncent small player that greedy predators want to suck blood from. If you accept thats interpretation then you also have to accept that Apple play that role and thus can´t be that innocent itself.
No one is innocent. Even if a company tries to be fair, there will be times that they won't be.
Originally posted by Anders
This last point was my point exactly. Ireland is painting Apple as an innoncent small player that greedy predators want to suck blood from. If you accept thats interpretation then you also have to accept that Apple play that role and thus can´t be that innocent itself.
With all due respect Anders, why would you waste time arguing with Ireland and Melgross?
Ireland is a troll, who makes posts that have more exclamation points and smilies than complete sentences, and mel's head would explode at the very notion of considering the possibility that Apple isn't perfect.
Originally posted by wilco
With all due respect Anders, why would you waste time arguing with Ireland and Melgross?
Ireland is a troll, who makes posts that have more exclamation points and smilies than complete sentences, and mel's head would explode at the very notion of considering the possibility that Apple isn't perfect.
I want to correct you on that. I don´t think mel is that bad all the time
Originally posted by wilco
With all due respect Anders, why would you waste time arguing with Ireland and Melgross?
Ireland is a troll, who makes posts that have more exclamation points and smilies than complete sentences, and mel's head would explode at the very notion of considering the possibility that Apple isn't perfect.
Hey! We weren't arguing! My comments were more in support.
Originally posted by Anders
I want to correct you on that. I don´t think mel is that bad all the time
Gee, thanks! You could at least have said most of the time.
Originally posted by melgross
Gee, thanks! You could at least have said most of the time.
Well the sentence wasn´t really about you
Originally posted by Anders
Well the sentence wasn´t really about you
?
Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
Guys...it doesn't much matter. It has no real legal bearing on the case whether Steve's reasoning was because he liked the Beatles or not.
Dammit man! Never let logic get in the way of a good internet tussle!
Have we taught you *nothing*?
Originally posted by Kickaha
Dammit man! Never let logic get in the way of a good internet tussle!
Have we taught you *nothing*?
Sorry.
[ slowly walks away in shame ]
Originally posted by audiopollution
That's probably due to the fact that you can't spell it properly.
You're on a roll.
Eric Clapton is British.
Originally posted by jenkij
The only association and confusion between Apple Corps and Apple Computer I experience is what Apple Corps is creating. Maybe they should go sue themselves.
Welcome!
You fit right in.
Originally posted by jenkij
The only association and confusion between Apple Corps and Apple Computer I experience is what Apple Corps is creating. Maybe they should go sue themselves.
You've deeply nailed it with just one post, thoroughly.
EDIT: put a smilie at the end