The real difference, to get a reasonable comparison, is closer to $300. The Apple price probably still doesn't include a 3 yr waranty (add $250 and it's not on-side like Dell's workstation warranties). I just ran the order form for the 690 with those specs and it came out to $3200. Then there's the Quadro vs. consumer video card.
Still is good deal, but the old RDF is over stating the price difference. The Mac Pro might be more comparable to the Prec 590 than the 690 as well.
The real difference, to get a reasonable comparison, is closer to $300. Still is a better deal, but the old RDF is over stating the price difference. The Mac Pro might be more comparable to the Prec 590 than the 690 as well.
You are right BUT still am very impressed with the pricing. I did expect all Quad core but not these prices.
Really? I swear as far back as 6 months ago you were saying your goodbyes and pricing a linux system?
And I swear that's none of your business. People make decisions at one point within a specific set of circumstances, and when those circumstances change, the decision may also change.
The real difference, to get a reasonable comparison, is closer to $300. Still is a better deal, but the old RDF is over stating the price difference. The Mac Pro might be more comparable to the Prec 590 than the 690 as well.
That's true. The Apple site has the new products up, cheaper Cinema displays, XServe, Mac Pro, etc, so now we can get a better idea of what is really in these things.
And I swear that's none of your business. People make decisions at one point within a specific set of circumstances, and when those circumstances change, the decision may also change.
Stop being obtuse and leave the guy alone.
I wasn't harrassing him, I initially said it as a joke and I think anyone who can read knows that. My second comment isn't asking him to explain anything, it was just a regular out loud response, if you talked to another human being you'd hear people make responses like that all the time, it isn't trying to pry, it's just a reply.
Oh and I gotta love the hypocrisy of jumping into someone else's conversation to tell them to mind their own business. Real cool.
The real difference, to get a reasonable comparison, is closer to $300. The Apple price probably still doesn't include a 3 yr waranty (add $250 and it's not on-side like Dell's workstation warranties). I just ran the order form for the 690 with those specs and it came out to $3200. Then there's the Quadro vs. consumer video card.
Still is good deal, but the old RDF is over stating the price difference. The Mac Pro might be more comparable to the Prec 590 than the 690 as well.
I'm looking at the dell configuration screen. Mine comes out to $3822. The second processor add $869 to the base price. I added a second network card and deleted the stock wireless card. Forgot to delete the floppy drive. Still not more than $50 difference.
I don't know what is going on for you, I did it again and still didn't hit $3300. I did forget the keyboard and second NIC on the previous try, but I didn't find where to get rid of the wireless adapter. You did pick an up-model "Essential Plan" plan (adds $408), not the "Economy Plan" (included). That's probably where the difference lies. Apple's support doesn't go as far as even the base plan.
I'm looking at the dell configuration screen. Mine comes out to $3822. The second processor add $869 to the base price. I added a second network card and deleted the stock wireless card. Forgot to delete the floppy drive. Still not more than $50 difference.
Proper respect to ZachPruckowski for making a good prediction!
I didn't think Apple would do it, but they are selling a 2S 2 GHz Woodcrest for $2100. At that price, Apple's got room to grow the iMac price to $1999. Also looks like the cheap desktop ($1000 to $1600) Mac will not be in Apple's plans for the foreseeable future.
Two dual core Xeon 5100 series. AKA all quads. Pretty frickin' amazing. The Mac Pro is everything the PowerMac G5 should have been. So, any questions on why we went to intel now?
Proper respect to ZachPruckowski for making a good prediction!
I didn't think Apple would do it, but they are selling a 2S 2 GHz Woodcrest for $2100. At that price, Apple's got room to grow the iMac price to $1999. Also looks like the cheap desktop ($1000 to $1600) Mac will not be in Apple's plans for the foreseeable future.
The way I see it, Apple has opened itself up for four possibilities.
1. Apple once again forgets everyone who is not a professional or casual consumer.
2. A Core 2 brother to the Mac Pro. Possibly using the same case.
Two dual core Xeon 5100 series. AKA all quads. Pretty frickin' amazing. The Mac Pro is everything the PowerMac G5 should have been. So, any questions on why we went to intel now?
where is the 1500 or less head less desk top?
people are not go to pay 2100 just to get good video with a AIO.
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I never defected. I clearly stated that if recent events happened like they just did, I'd be stoked, and if they didn't, I wouldn't.
Really? I swear as far back as 6 months ago you were saying your goodbyes and pricing a linux system?
And it is $1000 cheaper than Dell!!
And it is $1000 cheaper than Dell!!
The real difference, to get a reasonable comparison, is closer to $300. The Apple price probably still doesn't include a 3 yr waranty (add $250 and it's not on-side like Dell's workstation warranties). I just ran the order form for the 690 with those specs and it came out to $3200. Then there's the Quadro vs. consumer video card.
Still is good deal, but the old RDF is over stating the price difference. The Mac Pro might be more comparable to the Prec 590 than the 690 as well.
also the dell comes with a quadro 550 apple just a 7300gt
The real difference, to get a reasonable comparison, is closer to $300. Still is a better deal, but the old RDF is over stating the price difference. The Mac Pro might be more comparable to the Prec 590 than the 690 as well.
You are right BUT still am very impressed with the pricing. I did expect all Quad core but not these prices.
Really? I swear as far back as 6 months ago you were saying your goodbyes and pricing a linux system?
And I swear that's none of your business. People make decisions at one point within a specific set of circumstances, and when those circumstances change, the decision may also change.
Stop being obtuse and leave the guy alone.
The real difference, to get a reasonable comparison, is closer to $300. Still is a better deal, but the old RDF is over stating the price difference. The Mac Pro might be more comparable to the Prec 590 than the 690 as well.
Hey the RDF is even distorting the image above
Hey the RDF is even distorting the image above
That's true. The Apple site has the new products up, cheaper Cinema displays, XServe, Mac Pro, etc, so now we can get a better idea of what is really in these things.
And I swear that's none of your business. People make decisions at one point within a specific set of circumstances, and when those circumstances change, the decision may also change.
Stop being obtuse and leave the guy alone.
I wasn't harrassing him, I initially said it as a joke and I think anyone who can read knows that. My second comment isn't asking him to explain anything, it was just a regular out loud response, if you talked to another human being you'd hear people make responses like that all the time, it isn't trying to pry, it's just a reply.
Oh and I gotta love the hypocrisy of jumping into someone else's conversation to tell them to mind their own business. Real cool.
Power supply up top. Dual optical drives that aren't slot-loaders.
I got the number of holes between drives wrong by one. heh.
The real difference, to get a reasonable comparison, is closer to $300. The Apple price probably still doesn't include a 3 yr waranty (add $250 and it's not on-side like Dell's workstation warranties). I just ran the order form for the 690 with those specs and it came out to $3200. Then there's the Quadro vs. consumer video card.
Still is good deal, but the old RDF is over stating the price difference. The Mac Pro might be more comparable to the Prec 590 than the 690 as well.
I'm looking at the dell configuration screen. Mine comes out to $3822. The second processor add $869 to the base price. I added a second network card and deleted the stock wireless card. Forgot to delete the floppy drive. Still not more than $50 difference.
Catalog Number / Description Product Code SKU Id
Dell Precision Workstation 690 (750W - 32bit): Dual Core Intel® Xeon® Processor 5150 2.66GHz, 4MB L2,1333 T2674 [222-3854] 1
Operating System: Genuine Windows® XP Professional, SP2 with Media XPP2E [420-4860] 11
2nd Processor: Dual Core Intel® Xeon® Processor 5150 2.66GHz, 4MB L2,1333 PR264 [311-6280] 2
Memory: 1GB, DDR2 SDRAM FBD Memory, 533MHz, ECC (2 DIMMS) 1G2E [311-5946] 3
Graphic Cards: 128MB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro FX550, Dual VGA or Dual DVI or DVI + VGA FX550 [320-4763] 6
Hard Drive Configuration: C1 All SATA drives, Non-RAID, 1 or 2 drive total configuration SATA12 [341-3378] 9
Boot Hard Drive: 250GB SATA 3.0Gb/s,7200 RPM Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst Cache™ 250ST [341-3729] 8
Hard Drive Internal Controller Option: SATA/SAS Integrated Card - For Connecting Internal Hard Drives SASCTL [341-3435] 24
CD-ROM, DVD, and Read-Write Devices: 16X DVD+/-RW w/ Cyberlink PowerDVD™ and Roxio Creator™ Dell Ed DVRW16 [313-4287] 16
Floppy Drive and Media Card Reader Options: 3.5 inch 1.44MB Floppy Drive FD [341-3690] 10
Monitors: No Monitor Option NMN [320-3316] 5
Additional PCI-E Network Adapter card: Broadcom NetXtreme 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet controller-PCI Express card BNET [430-1680] 13
Keyboard: Dell USB Enhanced Multimedia Keyboard with built-in 2-port USB Hub U8 [310-7950] 4
Mouse: Dell USB 2-Button Optical Mouse with Scroll LOB [310-7958] 12
Speakers: Internal Chassis Speaker,Dell INTSPK [313-3417] 18
Resource CD: No Resource CD NORCD [313-3673] 21
Hardware Support Services: 3 Year Business Essential Plan PADP3YR [902-4902][970-1012][970-6580][981-8389][984-2917][984-2918] 29
Installation Services: No Onsite System Setup NOINSTL [900-9987] 32
I'm looking at the dell configuration screen. Mine comes out to $3822. The second processor add $869 to the base price. I added a second network card and deleted the stock wireless card. Forgot to delete the floppy drive. Still not more than $50 difference.
Catalog Number / Description Product Code SKU Id
Dell Precision Workstation 690 (750W - 32bit): Dual Core Intel® Xeon® Processor 5150 2.66GHz, 4MB L2,1333 T2674 [222-3854] 1
Operating System: Genuine Windows® XP Professional, SP2 with Media XPP2E [420-4860] 11
2nd Processor: Dual Core Intel® Xeon® Processor 5150 2.66GHz, 4MB L2,1333 PR264 [311-6280] 2
Memory: 1GB, DDR2 SDRAM FBD Memory, 533MHz, ECC (2 DIMMS) 1G2E [311-5946] 3
Graphic Cards: 128MB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro FX550, Dual VGA or Dual DVI or DVI + VGA FX550 [320-4763] 6
Hard Drive Configuration: C1 All SATA drives, Non-RAID, 1 or 2 drive total configuration SATA12 [341-3378] 9
Boot Hard Drive: 250GB SATA 3.0Gb/s,7200 RPM Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst Cache? 250ST [341-3729] 8
Hard Drive Internal Controller Option: SATA/SAS Integrated Card - For Connecting Internal Hard Drives SASCTL [341-3435] 24
CD-ROM, DVD, and Read-Write Devices: 16X DVD+/-RW w/ Cyberlink PowerDVD? and Roxio Creator? Dell Ed DVRW16 [313-4287] 16
Floppy Drive and Media Card Reader Options: 3.5 inch 1.44MB Floppy Drive FD [341-3690] 10
Monitors: No Monitor Option NMN [320-3316] 5
Additional PCI-E Network Adapter card: Broadcom NetXtreme 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet controller-PCI Express card BNET [430-1680] 13
Keyboard: Dell USB Enhanced Multimedia Keyboard with built-in 2-port USB Hub U8 [310-7950] 4
Mouse: Dell USB 2-Button Optical Mouse with Scroll LOB [310-7958] 12
Speakers: Internal Chassis Speaker,Dell INTSPK [313-3417] 18
Resource CD: No Resource CD NORCD [313-3673] 21
Hardware Support Services: 3 Year Business Essential Plan PADP3YR [902-4902][970-1012][970-6580][981-8389][984-2917][984-2918] 29
Installation Services: No Onsite System Setup NOINSTL [900-9987] 32
the dell has a SATA/SAS Integrated raid Card. The mac pro just has sata with no raid
I didn't think Apple would do it, but they are selling a 2S 2 GHz Woodcrest for $2100. At that price, Apple's got room to grow the iMac price to $1999. Also looks like the cheap desktop ($1000 to $1600) Mac will not be in Apple's plans for the foreseeable future.
dual dual-core? or dual core?
Two dual core Xeon 5100 series. AKA all quads. Pretty frickin' amazing. The Mac Pro is everything the PowerMac G5 should have been. So, any questions on why we went to intel now?
Proper respect to ZachPruckowski for making a good prediction!
I didn't think Apple would do it, but they are selling a 2S 2 GHz Woodcrest for $2100. At that price, Apple's got room to grow the iMac price to $1999. Also looks like the cheap desktop ($1000 to $1600) Mac will not be in Apple's plans for the foreseeable future.
The way I see it, Apple has opened itself up for four possibilities.
1. Apple once again forgets everyone who is not a professional or casual consumer.
2. A Core 2 brother to the Mac Pro. Possibly using the same case.
3. Licensing to PC Makers for Prosumer market.
4. Second PC-like brand.
Two dual core Xeon 5100 series. AKA all quads. Pretty frickin' amazing. The Mac Pro is everything the PowerMac G5 should have been. So, any questions on why we went to intel now?
where is the 1500 or less head less desk top?
people are not go to pay 2100 just to get good video with a AIO.
Also $300 to go form 1gig to 2gig what a rip.
I don't know what is going on for you, I did it again and still didn't go much beyond $3200.
The SATA/SAS card is stock. Look at the dirve configuration and choices. If you can figure out how to get rid of it I can select it out.
I dunno how you can add a $1389 ($520 + $869) worth of options to a $2358 computer and get anywhere close to $3200.
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