First iPhone ads published on Apple.com (Coming June 29)

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  • Reply 61 of 133
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by badNameErr View Post


    Waaaayyy too much information man!



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    Yeah, he's good about that.



    I seriously hope you guys know I was kidding.
  • Reply 62 of 133
    donlphidonlphi Posts: 214member
    These ads are missing a certain "GOLDBLOOM" element...



    Sign the petition to get Jeff back on the Apple ADS!!!



    http://www.goldbloompetition.com



  • Reply 63 of 133
    -df-df Posts: 136member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    2. The transition to coverflow is now a fade in, not a twirl in (or whatever you'd call it).



    I'm not sure that's true.



    In the ads they turn the device while it's in album view, making it fade from a list of albums to coverflow. The "twirl" happens when you turn the device while playing a song (and displaying the album art) - this is how it was always shown at Macworld.



    Also, the "twirl" still happens in Safari, so it's probably still in the iPod as well.



    edit: oops, icfireball got to it first
  • Reply 64 of 133
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Interestingly, I just saw an ad for the Helio. It feature cute little robots cavorting around the phone, the slider mechanism gets slid a few times, and icons go spinning up off the screen.



    Take away impression: nice looking phone with that cool slider action that probably is a pretty good, uh, phone. Probably does some other stuff, with those icons and all.



    iPhone ad: show it working, show the interface, show the transitions from one function to another.



    Take away impression: holy shit that's slick!



    Really, I think the kind of casual "this is what you do with this thing" really works well, and has way more impact then the Apple site demo videos, which don't show an actual hand. From these ads you get a feeling of effortlessness.



    I also think it's interesting that phone makers almost never try to sell the interface, they sell the phone as an object in its own right. Motorola RAZRs and the like are just shown being pretty and thin. Interface? Whatever.



    Now here's the iPhone and its all interface, the phone itself is just the bare minimum to put that in front of you, and the ads just tell that story.
  • Reply 65 of 133
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by icfireball View Post


    Triangulation can actually be accurate to within 100 meters to locate a cell phone..



    Oh you're right, I was just referring to the minimum FCC guidelines (which is 300 metres or better, 95% of the time using tower triangulation).
  • Reply 66 of 133
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    We had a huge debate here a few months ago about different GPS capabilites with various CDMA and GMS technologies. I think Melgross may remember it.



    My questions regarding planet-like masses:

    Does GPS only refer only to orbiting satellites triangulating your position on Earth, or can it also refer to land-based triangulation determining your position on Earth? Ae we seeing a word actively broaden it's original definition to include new technologies? Is there life on other planets? Are you happy Rosie O'Donnel left The View?



    GPS uses satellites, with a receiver in the device itself. There are older land-based technologies which have been largely abandoned, such as LORAN, because of the rise of GPS.



    A-GPS is a version that uses a much less computationally powerful, and less expensive, receiver, that reports the info from the satellites to the cell network which does the processing, and sends the location info back to the phone.



    Can't stand O'Donnel.
  • Reply 67 of 133
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    Originally Posted by secretvampire View Post


    Just saw this while watching the nightly news, simple demonstration of the Google apps with a big bold "June 29th" at the end. I guess that release date is set after all.



    hey thanks for the Google connection, but where is the link?
  • Reply 68 of 133
    whoamiwhoami Posts: 301member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by onlooker View Post


    You are delusional. Apple is going to be shorthanded on iPhones for the next 6 months. It's going to be harder to get than the wii.



    deja vu... camped out for my wii, and will have to now for iphone!

    i'm sick of these over hyped items! no i'm not really...
  • Reply 69 of 133
    japplejapple Posts: 91member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Despite the multitude of times I've masturbated to the iPhone



    I see you've discovered iPhone's movie feature
  • Reply 70 of 133
    ajhillajhill Posts: 81member
    These ads are great, but for all of you looking for a great iLife ad, there was an internal Apple ad that was even better than these ads. And yes it is possible. I'll do my best to describe the ad for iMovie.



    The ad initially showed two kids, about 4 years old, one boy, one girl. They look to be brother and sister, playing in the fall foliage. after several shots of them playing the movie cuts to a locked down shot (read tripod) of the two of them sitting on a bench in the yard. The audio has a sentimental, simple song. You know the type. Now for the good party.



    The shot of the of the two kids on the bench slowly dissolves into the exact same shot, only this time the bench is empty and the sounds of the kids giggling just fades away.



    Talk about making a point as to why its important in life to take the time out to record the little moments that make it all worth while.



    I'm not sure why Apple doesn't air this ad (internal movie?) That was perfect!
  • Reply 71 of 133
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ajhill View Post


    These ads are great, but for all of you looking for a great iLife ad, there was an internal Apple ad that was even better than these ads. And yes it is possible. I'll do my best to describe the ad for iMovie.



    The ad initially showed two kids, about 4 years old, one boy, one girl. They look to be brother and sister, playing in the fall foliage. after several shots of them playing the movie cuts to a locked down shot (read tripod) of the two of them sitting on a bench in the yard. The audio has a sentimental, simple song. You know the type. Now for the good party.



    The shot of the of the two kids on the bench slowly dissolves into the exact same shot, only this time the bench is empty and the sounds of the kids giggling just fades away.



    Talk about making a point as to why its important in life to take the time out to record the little moments that make it all worth while.



    I'm not sure why Apple doesn't air this ad (internal movie?) That was perfect!



    I'll never understand why Apple doesn't do more ads. I generally like the ones they have, it's just that it seems like they have a lot of nice stuff that never gets any advertising love whatsoever.



    For instance, ever see an ad of any kind for the Airport Express? Being able to send your iTunes stuff to your stereo wirelessly (and have an Airport base station, and a wireless USB printer connection) seems like the kind of thing you could build a cool ad around, but you'd think that Apple wants to keep it a secret. A lot of my Mac using friends aren't even aware that it exists.
  • Reply 72 of 133
    ebrunnebrunn Posts: 75member
    Their isn't GPS on the thing. If you look at the still of the video where it shows the phone #, address, url of the restaurant, you can see at the bottom "Get Directions Here" button. That means that you prolly enter in your home address(or where you are at currently) in the Google Map programs settings and that is how it knows where you are and routes you to where you want to go.
  • Reply 73 of 133
    a-mazea-maze Posts: 65member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Louzer View Post


    Sorry,





    As for GPS, don't all phones have to have GPS installed? Or is it installed for phone use, but may not be hooked to the OS side of things?



    Sorry,



    But saying that every phone has GPS installed is ... well really stupid. GPS is a positioning system and has nothing to do with cellular function. Telco can track a cellphone in relation to the signal received in at least three masts but that's not being used yet in a cell function, it will probably never will. It is used to track down stolen cells/runaway teens/... but that's another story.

    Iphone will appeal to business users as it does to youngsters, but it will take some third apps and more push functionality to make it popular in the corporate world.



    Nice and quick, those are the strong points of this device it seems.
  • Reply 74 of 133
    spindriftspindrift Posts: 674member
    I was almost getting bored of the stagnant iPhone news, but these new ads have brought the excitement back. Even though I won't be able to get one until the gen 2 3G version comes out in the UK at the end of the year, I'm eagerly awaiting the 29th with great expectation.



    There's absolutely no reason at all why the iPhone couldn't incorporate a GPS chipset. The SiRF Star III chipset is small, very sensitive and not very expensive. You can even get sat lock indoors if you're near a window.



    Quote:

    Telco can track a cellphone in relation to the signal received in at least three masts but that's not being used yet in a cell function, it will probably never will.



    Mast triangulation has been around for decades, and yes it has been used in plenty of phones. There are even services on the web that will allow you to track a phone for less that £2 per month.



    Now I'm not saying that the iPhone will have a GPS chipset, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did. I have a Nokia Bluetooth GPS receiver which I have used with my last 3 smartphones and quite a few handsets are coming out with integrated GPS functionality. If Apple want to take over the smartphone market, they will need to compete on that level too.
  • Reply 75 of 133
    louzerlouzer Posts: 1,054member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by a-maze View Post


    Sorry,



    But saying that every phone has GPS installed is ... well really stupid.



    Gee, thanks! Although I didn't say it, I just asked the question.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I do. I like to look at the total cost of ownership. If paying a little more now for a better experience or more value at the end of the deal then I'm all for it. It's why i haven't ever leased a car or put less than 20% down on a home.



    20% on a house is a pointless number. I put 5% down, but didn't have to pay the PMI you're hoping to avoid.



    But with regards to TCO, teens DON'T do this. You're not going to find too many people under 20 who are going to look at anything and go, "Well, over 24 months, this is going to cost me,...". And, even if they do, they'll still have to think "Okay, sure, it costs $600, and sure, this one costs $50, but I'll have a better experience with this one, so the extra $550 will be worth it!"



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Don't you look at your Mac and ever think that you don't have to buy anto-virus software, ad-ware, etc?



    No, but then, I never have gotten viruses, ad-ware, etc. And you don't have to pay for any of that, either.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I did some checking. Leopard does have more Exhance support, without using IMAP like in Tiger, and AddressBook supports LDAP and iCal supports some kind of server based calender.



    But, some exchange support is 'full support'. And using 'standards' for other information isn't the same as exchange support.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I didn't make myself clear here. Google already offers Google Maps as a widget, sure it requires and internet connection to gather the info, but you don't need to go to maps.google.com first. Wouldn't Apple know this will be a important aspect to many people and get free versions on the iPhone. Maybe Google Docs is the mysterious icon we can't see in the post I made on the first page?



    OK, so now we're all pulling ideas out of our asses to fill in pieces we think are missing. But why bother with google docs when they could just go port pieces of open office? Or allow third-party software? Oh, right, Apple's apparently so unsure of their OS they fear that any unapproved software could crash the whole phone.
  • Reply 76 of 133
    ha isn't funny that I was watching those adds before appleinsider posted that and was thinking "Wow didn't know 'bout these adds...must be some news I didn't look at on Appleinsider..."
  • Reply 77 of 133
    max_naylormax_naylor Posts: 194member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Despite the multitude of times I've masturbated to the iPhone, I can't really comment on those new transition effects you mention.



    I?m all for sharing? but I wouldn?t publicly broadcast that fact. Just sayin?.
  • Reply 78 of 133
    -df-df Posts: 136member
    I'm kind of surprised none of the ads showed any multi-touch interaction. I guess single taps are simpler, but multi-touch is so cool!
  • Reply 79 of 133
    daffy_duckdaffy_duck Posts: 248member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WakeCharlie View Post


    It seems unlikely Apple will be able to get it's 10% market share during this first corporate push.



    Where did you get this number? Steve himself said they were shooting for 1% of the market. There's a big difference between 1% and 10%.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WakeCharlie View Post


    A lot of the surveys asking highschool students if they would buy one are failing to ask how they're going to get mom and pop to pay for them.



    I don't know if you have noticed, but there are a lot of wealthy people in America and they will not scoff at the idea of buying the iPhone for their kid for Christmas. I got the 3G iPod as a Christmas gift from my parents and it cost nearly as much at the time.
  • Reply 80 of 133
    meelashmeelash Posts: 1,045member
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I seriously hope you guys know I was kidding.



    liar
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