I'm kind of surprised none of the ads showed any multi-touch interaction. I guess single taps are simpler, but multi-touch is so cool!
I think they showed it off without actually going "Look, multi-touch!" or whatever buzzword Apple decides to use with it (sorry, but multi-touch just sounds stupid). You saw the guy scrolling through a list of music (wonder how well that would work on a full-sized iPod with 900 albums on it) and scrolling around here and there.
And with all the talk here, maybe that 'unknown' button is used to clean the screen after you've, um, enjoyed the iPhone a little too much, if you get my drift (I'm sure the phone has, many times....). Because, otherwise, you'd think it would just start getting kind of, well, caked on or something.
But lest we be too harsh, it does sound like a great way to keep your friends from borrowing it.
Has anyone seen anything about this? A point that's confusng for me is what this phone is classified as. I see that Cingular currently lists unlimited data for smartphones for 19.99 per month, but Blackberries have specific plans that are more costly.
I would say that would have to be a concern for people looking at the iPhone. Or maybe most people don't care about that cost??
Advertising on 60 minutes, looks like Apple is focusing on corporate America to fuel the fire for first generation of the iphone. Company managers are probably the only one's other than Paris Hilton who can afford one. A lot of the surveys asking highschool students if they would buy one are failing to ask how they're going to get mom and pop to pay for them. It seems unlikely Apple will be able to get it's 10% market share during this first corporate push. It doesn't even look like their initial supply figures will get them anywhere close to those figures. When Jobs introduces the new ultra-portables in the Fall, expect the marketing to similarly target corporate America. The corporate execs and managers will want to get their laptops to communicate seemlessly with their new necessary business tool. With this new top down marketing model we should expect Mr. or Mrs. CEO or CFO to be the first to get their hands on one. We'll see the execs at Disney walking around with their complimentary iPhones come June 29th and lower level managers not wanting to get left on the wrong side of the digital divide ponying up their own money to keep pace with their higher-ups. Jobs is banking on the iphone becoming the new status icon for corporate America. Just long enough for the managers to have to get their hands on one when their bosses' show up with them during board meetings, capitalizing on the early adopters, upper management, before making them hip for the rest of us with the second gen.'s in the fall. That might explain why the second gen is expected out so soon after the first gen. In order to use a top down marketing model, Apple will have to act fast in order to not let the iphone become their parent's business device.
the only wrong with that is the i-phone does not have apps that other business phones have + it is not a blackberry also you can not swap battery's with as you can with other high end phones.
Dammit, I was going to say, these ads seem to harken back to the TiBook days of Apple ads. And I strongly believe that that's a good thing.
"Ah well, whatever the reason... Gee, you're just so gonna want one..." - Jeff after trying to figure out why you'd want the new G4 PowerBook. ^_^
What I do miss is the Apple hardware that... ran itself, remember? All the products in the older commercials moved and toiled through their functions without human aid. Like the optical Pro Mouse. :P
Isn't that just the iPod button, i.e., music, movies, podcasts, etc?
Nope...he is talking about the buttons up at the top. One picture shows an empty space across the bottom row, where the new picture shows all 4 spaces taken up.
Isn't that just the iPod button, i.e., music, movies, podcasts, etc?
Don't know. can't see any of the buttons. One suggestion was that it could be a button for accessing your iPhone and AT&T stats. Like, storage remaining, minutes used, IP address, phone number and flux capacitor Mr. Fusion info.
[QUOTE=Joe_the_dragon;1090053]the only wrong with that is the I-phone does not have apps that other business phones have + it is not a blackberry also you can not swap battery's with as you can with other high end phones.[/QUOTE}
also you can not swap battery's with as you can with other high end phones.
I don't understand why this point gets so belabored. There will be batteries for sale to plug into the iphone. Heck, the ones they sell for the iPod probably work already. You'll have as much battery life as you could possibly hope for.
I don't understand why this point gets so belabored. There will be batteries for sale to plug into the iphone. Heck, the ones they sell for the iPod probably work already. You'll have as much battery life as you could possibly hope for.
Something that is rarely mentioned is that the use of the same 30-pin connector means that I no longer need to carry a separate cell phone charger or even a power-brick as I can just plug into my notebook.
I can also leave various charging units in different location that I frequent. i have plenty of iPod/FW cables and power-bricks that are only good for charging.
And, as you mention, there are already so many iPod accessories that are available for the iPhone just from having this same standard Apple connector.
I even ave $20 from not needing a separate car charger. No one seems to mentions that value.
We had a huge debate here a few months ago about different GPS capabilites with various CDMA and GMS technologies. I think Melgross may remember it.
My questions regarding planet-like masses:
Does GPS only refer only to orbiting satellites triangulating your position on Earth, or can it also refer to land-based triangulation determining your position on Earth? Ae we seeing a word actively broaden it's original definition to include new technologies? Is there life on other planets? Are you happy Rosie O'Donnel left The View?
It's funny that you mention The View, because I just finished watching The View for the first time. I usually have school, but alas, it's summer now. Gotta says tho, Kathy Griffin seems like she would be much better than O'Donald. But she's temp?? At any rate, I don't really care.
GPS is different from tower triangulation because it can detect location, speed, and direction, all with fairly high accuracy. Also, GPS uses a minimum of 24 satellites to calculate these values, whereas tower triangulation, as the name states, uses only 3. If only 3 satellites were to be used, GPS would be far less accurate than tower triangulation.
Although unlikely, I might mention that the location could be found via the WiFI connection and IP address.
If only 3 satellites were to be used, GPS would be far less accurate than tower triangulation.
Sorry but that's wrong! GPS doesn't require 24 satellites and it can use triangulation techniques with 3 satellites in exactly the same way as you would from telecoms masts. GPS receivers will try and lock on to as many of the 27 GPS satellites in orbit (24 are in use with 3 set as backup) as possible to generate the most accurate triangulation point.
Sorry but that's wrong! GPS doesn't require 24 satellites and it can use triangulation techniques with 3 satellites in exactly the same way as you would from telecoms masts. GPS receivers will try and lock on to as many of the 27 GPS satellites in orbit (24 are in use with 3 set as backup) as possible to generate the most accurate triangulation point.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that iPhone definitely does not have GPS. How do I know? Because Steve didn't say it has GPS. The web site doesn't say it has GPS. If a feature as cool as built in GPS existed, someone from Apple would have mentioned it.
If you notice in the commercial, when the hand hits the Google Maps Widget, the map that comes up is already San Francisco. That means it was probably cached from an earlier session. So typing "seafood" searches the center of the current map, just as all versions of Google Maps do on other phones.
It's possible that iPhone can look into your "me" contact to get an idea of which zip code is "home" just like many widgets do in OS X. Or, in the settings, you can put in your home zip. But this is a far cry from actual GPS. When you're away from home, visiting somewhere else, you'll have to put in a zip code, or city/state.
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I'm kind of surprised none of the ads showed any multi-touch interaction. I guess single taps are simpler, but multi-touch is so cool!
I think they showed it off without actually going "Look, multi-touch!" or whatever buzzword Apple decides to use with it (sorry, but multi-touch just sounds stupid). You saw the guy scrolling through a list of music (wonder how well that would work on a full-sized iPod with 900 albums on it) and scrolling around here and there.
And with all the talk here, maybe that 'unknown' button is used to clean the screen after you've, um, enjoyed the iPhone a little too much, if you get my drift (I'm sure the phone has, many times....). Because, otherwise, you'd think it would just start getting kind of, well, caked on or something.
But lest we be too harsh, it does sound like a great way to keep your friends from borrowing it.
Despite the multitude of times I've masturbated to the iPhone, I can't really comment on those new transition effects you mention.
Whoa. Gives a whole new meaning to the term 'Multi-Touch Interface', doesn't it?
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Has anyone seen anything about this? A point that's confusng for me is what this phone is classified as. I see that Cingular currently lists unlimited data for smartphones for 19.99 per month, but Blackberries have specific plans that are more costly.
I would say that would have to be a concern for people looking at the iPhone. Or maybe most people don't care about that cost??
60 minutes?
Advertising on 60 minutes, looks like Apple is focusing on corporate America to fuel the fire for first generation of the iphone. Company managers are probably the only one's other than Paris Hilton who can afford one. A lot of the surveys asking highschool students if they would buy one are failing to ask how they're going to get mom and pop to pay for them. It seems unlikely Apple will be able to get it's 10% market share during this first corporate push. It doesn't even look like their initial supply figures will get them anywhere close to those figures. When Jobs introduces the new ultra-portables in the Fall, expect the marketing to similarly target corporate America. The corporate execs and managers will want to get their laptops to communicate seemlessly with their new necessary business tool. With this new top down marketing model we should expect Mr. or Mrs. CEO or CFO to be the first to get their hands on one. We'll see the execs at Disney walking around with their complimentary iPhones come June 29th and lower level managers not wanting to get left on the wrong side of the digital divide ponying up their own money to keep pace with their higher-ups. Jobs is banking on the iphone becoming the new status icon for corporate America. Just long enough for the managers to have to get their hands on one when their bosses' show up with them during board meetings, capitalizing on the early adopters, upper management, before making them hip for the rest of us with the second gen.'s in the fall. That might explain why the second gen is expected out so soon after the first gen. In order to use a top down marketing model, Apple will have to act fast in order to not let the iphone become their parent's business device.
the only wrong with that is the i-phone does not have apps that other business phones have + it is not a blackberry also you can not swap battery's with as you can with other high end phones.
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Notice this first image is the usual setup of the iPhone's buttons.
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This close-up reveals a different setting of the iPhone's buttons.
The obvious answer is that there is an additional button on the screen.
But what could it be?
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Isn't that just the iPod button, i.e., music, movies, podcasts, etc?
Is it me or does the phone seem a bit smaller than the one Steve was using?
They used someone with big hands to make it look smaller that is really is to give it a "nano" feel.
How crazy is that?
We'd better head for the doors if the iPhone bombs (not that I am saying or hoping it will.... just worried about all this volatility).
These ads are missing a certain "GOLDBLOOM" element...
Sign the petition to get Jeff back on the Apple ADS!!!
http://www.goldbloompetition.com
Dammit, I was going to say, these ads seem to harken back to the TiBook days of Apple ads. And I strongly believe that that's a good thing.
"Ah well, whatever the reason... Gee, you're just so gonna want one..." - Jeff after trying to figure out why you'd want the new G4 PowerBook. ^_^
What I do miss is the Apple hardware that... ran itself, remember? All the products in the older commercials moved and toiled through their functions without human aid. Like the optical Pro Mouse. :P
Isn't that just the iPod button, i.e., music, movies, podcasts, etc?
Nope...he is talking about the buttons up at the top. One picture shows an empty space across the bottom row, where the new picture shows all 4 spaces taken up.
Very peculiar.
It appears that the camera lens is on the back so that kind of rules out iChat video doesn't it?
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Isn't that just the iPod button, i.e., music, movies, podcasts, etc?
Don't know. can't see any of the buttons. One suggestion was that it could be a button for accessing your iPhone and AT&T stats. Like, storage remaining, minutes used, IP address, phone number and flux capacitor Mr. Fusion info.
What is the "l-phone?"
also you can not swap battery's with as you can with other high end phones.
I don't understand why this point gets so belabored. There will be batteries for sale to plug into the iphone. Heck, the ones they sell for the iPod probably work already. You'll have as much battery life as you could possibly hope for.
I don't understand why this point gets so belabored. There will be batteries for sale to plug into the iphone. Heck, the ones they sell for the iPod probably work already. You'll have as much battery life as you could possibly hope for.
Something that is rarely mentioned is that the use of the same 30-pin connector means that I no longer need to carry a separate cell phone charger or even a power-brick as I can just plug into my notebook.
I can also leave various charging units in different location that I frequent. i have plenty of iPod/FW cables and power-bricks that are only good for charging.
And, as you mention, there are already so many iPod accessories that are available for the iPhone just from having this same standard Apple connector.
I even ave $20 from not needing a separate car charger. No one seems to mentions that value.
We had a huge debate here a few months ago about different GPS capabilites with various CDMA and GMS technologies. I think Melgross may remember it.
My questions regarding planet-like masses:
Does GPS only refer only to orbiting satellites triangulating your position on Earth, or can it also refer to land-based triangulation determining your position on Earth? Ae we seeing a word actively broaden it's original definition to include new technologies? Is there life on other planets? Are you happy Rosie O'Donnel left The View?
It's funny that you mention The View, because I just finished watching The View for the first time. I usually have school, but alas, it's summer now. Gotta says tho, Kathy Griffin seems like she would be much better than O'Donald. But she's temp?? At any rate, I don't really care.
GPS is different from tower triangulation because it can detect location, speed, and direction, all with fairly high accuracy. Also, GPS uses a minimum of 24 satellites to calculate these values, whereas tower triangulation, as the name states, uses only 3. If only 3 satellites were to be used, GPS would be far less accurate than tower triangulation.
Although unlikely, I might mention that the location could be found via the WiFI connection and IP address.
If only 3 satellites were to be used, GPS would be far less accurate than tower triangulation.
Sorry but that's wrong! GPS doesn't require 24 satellites and it can use triangulation techniques with 3 satellites in exactly the same way as you would from telecoms masts. GPS receivers will try and lock on to as many of the 27 GPS satellites in orbit (24 are in use with 3 set as backup) as possible to generate the most accurate triangulation point.
Anyone else who gave Apple and/or AT&T their e-mail addresses feel a bit sleighted?
I mean, this kind of counts as NEW INFORMATION. So where is MY E-MAIL? Watch it comes tomorrow. :-p
Between my partner and I, we have 6 e-mail address into both AT&T and Apple and neither one of us have ever gotten any e-mail back.
Sorry but that's wrong! GPS doesn't require 24 satellites and it can use triangulation techniques with 3 satellites in exactly the same way as you would from telecoms masts. GPS receivers will try and lock on to as many of the 27 GPS satellites in orbit (24 are in use with 3 set as backup) as possible to generate the most accurate triangulation point.
I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu.
I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that iPhone definitely does not have GPS. How do I know? Because Steve didn't say it has GPS. The web site doesn't say it has GPS. If a feature as cool as built in GPS existed, someone from Apple would have mentioned it.
If you notice in the commercial, when the hand hits the Google Maps Widget, the map that comes up is already San Francisco. That means it was probably cached from an earlier session. So typing "seafood" searches the center of the current map, just as all versions of Google Maps do on other phones.
It's possible that iPhone can look into your "me" contact to get an idea of which zip code is "home" just like many widgets do in OS X. Or, in the settings, you can put in your home zip. But this is a far cry from actual GPS. When you're away from home, visiting somewhere else, you'll have to put in a zip code, or city/state.
These ads are missing a certain "GOLDBLOOM" element...
Sign the petition to get Jeff back on the Apple ADS!!!
http://www.goldbloompetition.com
Jeff Goldblum... GOLDBLUM. Not 'bloom'.