To answer your question. The Maps features works based on your position relative to cell phone towers. The company providing this service (Skyhook Wireless) are an American company currently doing a global scan of cell phone towers and wireless hotspots to provide services like this. I know because Steve mentioned it during the keynote and I did some driving/scanning for them in Belgium. Interesting job! And I feel I've contributed to this technology in a very small yet significant way.
That I know. :-) but this is the iPod touch. No mobile phone masts to triangulate from....
Mobile phone masts know where they are, surely routers only know where they are logically not geographically?????
Get directions and check traffic with Google Maps. Even find yourself, wherever you are. Using some local Wi-Fi networks (if Wi-Fi is turned on), iPod touch finds your approximate location and gives directions from there. Mark specific locations, find the best route between them and search for points of interest along the way. With a hybrid map and satellite view, you can see major street names on top of satellite images.
How about: I had updated my Touch to 1.1.3 and a little later bought the application upgrade before I made the post.
You're a tad late, I already checked myself, we've moved onto the fact that 1.1.3 on iPod touch does not include any of the important updates added to iPhone. Those are in App Pack for iPod touch (AKA iPod touch January Software Update)
He still seems to be mostly upset about the apps. I myself don't care about the apps. The key to my irritation is the 3 things added to iPhone free which we could have gotten free but did not (Home Screen rearranging, Web Clips and Lyrics).
I'm not paying £12.99 on top of £199 just to add those. No. Freaking. Way.
He still seems to be mostly upset about the apps. I myself don't care about the apps. The key to my irritation is the 3 things added to iPhone free which we could have gotten free but did not (Home Screen rearranging, Web Clips and Lyrics).
I'm not paying £12.99 on top of £199 just to add those. No. Freaking. Way.
I totally agree, I wouldn't want to pay that much for additional features either....
I will be gladly paying the £12.99 for the host of new features that are on offer which certainly were never listed nor implied in the original specifications. This is a huge capability uplift for a very small cost (although of course we're naturally paying more in the UK!).
Toyota have never offered me an upgrade on my car, Panasonic have never offered me an upgrade on our Home Cinema equipment. Thank you Apple for offering us this upgrade without having to buy new hardware.
precisely - first post to make sense in this thread. the bloody whiners are at it again.
Again, bad analogy. The iPod is a personal media player, and iPhone is a phone. If they'd left out Maps or Mail from the iPhone, then charged for their later implementation, then I'd understand the indignation. The iPod is for playing audio and video media, the addition of Safari and Youtube are wonderful bonuses, but it still doesn't make the iPod a phone/web device. Mail and Maps is useless without internet on demand, so it's a luxury to add them to the Touch. More importantly, developer fees are part of the $20, since the same developer licensing fees were absorbed in the initial price like all other cell phones. This way those of us who don't want/need this new stuff, didn't have to pay for it up front.
Not a bad analogy at all. Same tech goes into both, the iPhone comes out first, with more apps, then Apple adds them on (at little or no development cost) to the touch and then wants to charge $20 for it.
If you are like me, you just purchased your iPod Touch for Christmas a few weeks ago, for full price. Well, Apple has nicely upgraded the software already and made your new Touch "out of date". New users should get the update for free. REMEMBER the iPhone price controversy just a month or so ago! Start calling and emailing Apple and we will get what we deserve! If enough of us contact Apple about this, they will see the light.
Not to worry, guys. I'm sure the update will be all over the Net within a matter of weeks, as soon as 1.1.3 is jailbroken. Patience.
Not that I'm advocating piracy, mind you. That would be wrong!
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Originally Posted by Bregalad
Charging for updates that are free on the iPhone does look like a rip off, but consider the alternative...
2008 Touch includes new features
2007 Touch owners are stuck with the features that shipped in 2007
Instead you have the choice of sticking with your 2007 model or upgrading to the 2008 for $20.
Do you people honestly expect to get the next 5 years' worth of added features free?
People said right from the Touch's introduction that there was no good reason for Apple to leave off the missing apps that the iPhone shipped with months earlier. Most of those apps worked better with Wifi than over the deathly slow 2.5G network. The only possible reason was to differentiate the Touch from the iPhone, but the phone and camera features already did that. Now Apple admits there's no good reason by making those apps standard on the 2008 model.
Long time watcher of apple and over the last while 'migrated' to apple.
First an ipod mini, then appletv, macbook pro and 16Gb ipod touch ... all brilliant ... until now.
Its not the $20, its the principal.
Already paid for my ipod touch why should I have to pay more?
my faith in apple is dropping
Cue the bitching - people have seen it work with the $100 store credit after the iPhone price drop, now the children have learned that their whining eventually gets them candy, so now we get to put up with this garbage.
Cue the bitching - people have seen it work with the $100 store credit after the iPhone price drop, now the children have learned that their whining eventually gets them candy, so now we get to put up with this garbage.
Cue the bitching - people have seen it work with the $100 store credit after the iPhone price drop, now the children have learned that their whining eventually gets them candy, so now we get to put up with this garbage.
Although I think the upgrade price is a bit steep, I agree that the extra features are worth paying something for. As someone else mentioned, you can't expect to get new software for old hardware, free of charge.
And you Americans certainly shouldn't be complaining because the Brits are paying more and the rest of Europe slightly more on top of that. My upgrade was 18 Euros which comes to 26.78 USD. I'm not complaining, just stating the facts. I'm also used to paying a European premium with Apple.
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Us Brits have been shafted big time by this software!
The 'Worldwide' Weather app doesn't recognise cities outside of the US.
It is the usual story, an American company fails to recognise other countries, it really pisses me off. They have put in the search to enter a Postcode (Trying to be British?) but try a UK postcode and it wont recognise it!
On that note, iTunes Movie Rental is not available in the UK!!
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To answer your question. The Maps features works based on your position relative to cell phone towers. The company providing this service (Skyhook Wireless) are an American company currently doing a global scan of cell phone towers and wireless hotspots to provide services like this. I know because Steve mentioned it during the keynote and I did some driving/scanning for them in Belgium. Interesting job! And I feel I've contributed to this technology in a very small yet significant way.
That I know. :-) but this is the iPod touch. No mobile phone masts to triangulate from....
Mobile phone masts know where they are, surely routers only know where they are logically not geographically?????
Maps
Get directions and check traffic with Google Maps. Even find yourself, wherever you are. Using some local Wi-Fi networks (if Wi-Fi is turned on), iPod touch finds your approximate location and gives directions from there. Mark specific locations, find the best route between them and search for points of interest along the way. With a hybrid map and satellite view, you can see major street names on top of satellite images.
First an ipod mini, then appletv, macbook pro and 16Gb ipod touch ... all brilliant ... until now.
Its not the $20, its the principal.
Already paid for my ipod touch why should I have to pay more?
my faith in apple is dropping
How about: I had updated my Touch to 1.1.3 and a little later bought the application upgrade before I made the post.
You're a tad late, I already checked myself, we've moved onto the fact that 1.1.3 on iPod touch does not include any of the important updates added to iPhone. Those are in App Pack for iPod touch (AKA iPod touch January Software Update)
say what? what was from the beginning?
He still seems to be mostly upset about the apps. I myself don't care about the apps. The key to my irritation is the 3 things added to iPhone free which we could have gotten free but did not (Home Screen rearranging, Web Clips and Lyrics).
I'm not paying £12.99 on top of £199 just to add those. No. Freaking. Way.
He still seems to be mostly upset about the apps. I myself don't care about the apps. The key to my irritation is the 3 things added to iPhone free which we could have gotten free but did not (Home Screen rearranging, Web Clips and Lyrics).
I'm not paying £12.99 on top of £199 just to add those. No. Freaking. Way.
I totally agree, I wouldn't want to pay that much for additional features either....
I will be gladly paying the £12.99 for the host of new features that are on offer which certainly were never listed nor implied in the original specifications. This is a huge capability uplift for a very small cost (although of course we're naturally paying more in the UK!).
Toyota have never offered me an upgrade on my car, Panasonic have never offered me an upgrade on our Home Cinema equipment. Thank you Apple for offering us this upgrade without having to buy new hardware.
precisely - first post to make sense in this thread. the bloody whiners are at it again.
Again, bad analogy. The iPod is a personal media player, and iPhone is a phone. If they'd left out Maps or Mail from the iPhone, then charged for their later implementation, then I'd understand the indignation. The iPod is for playing audio and video media, the addition of Safari and Youtube are wonderful bonuses, but it still doesn't make the iPod a phone/web device. Mail and Maps is useless without internet on demand, so it's a luxury to add them to the Touch. More importantly, developer fees are part of the $20, since the same developer licensing fees were absorbed in the initial price like all other cell phones. This way those of us who don't want/need this new stuff, didn't have to pay for it up front.
Not a bad analogy at all. Same tech goes into both, the iPhone comes out first, with more apps, then Apple adds them on (at little or no development cost) to the touch and then wants to charge $20 for it.
Its a blatant rip off.
2008 Touch includes new features
2007 Touch owners are stuck with the features that shipped in 2007
Instead you have the choice of sticking with your 2007 model or upgrading to the 2008 for $20.
Do you people honestly expect to get the next 5 years' worth of added features free?
Not that I'm advocating piracy, mind you. That would be wrong!
Charging for updates that are free on the iPhone does look like a rip off, but consider the alternative...
2008 Touch includes new features
2007 Touch owners are stuck with the features that shipped in 2007
Instead you have the choice of sticking with your 2007 model or upgrading to the 2008 for $20.
Do you people honestly expect to get the next 5 years' worth of added features free?
People said right from the Touch's introduction that there was no good reason for Apple to leave off the missing apps that the iPhone shipped with months earlier. Most of those apps worked better with Wifi than over the deathly slow 2.5G network. The only possible reason was to differentiate the Touch from the iPhone, but the phone and camera features already did that. Now Apple admits there's no good reason by making those apps standard on the 2008 model.
Charging for updates that are free on the iPhone does look like a rip off, but consider the alternative...
2008 Touch includes new features
2007 Touch owners are stuck with the features that shipped in 2007
Instead you have the choice of sticking with your 2007 model or upgrading to the 2008 for $20.
Do you people honestly expect to get the next 5 years' worth of added features free?
To do this just after christmas, right after everyone has just bought one shows the contempt Apple has for its customers.
Long time watcher of apple and over the last while 'migrated' to apple.
First an ipod mini, then appletv, macbook pro and 16Gb ipod touch ... all brilliant ... until now.
Its not the $20, its the principal.
Already paid for my ipod touch why should I have to pay more?
my faith in apple is dropping
Cue the bitching - people have seen it work with the $100 store credit after the iPhone price drop, now the children have learned that their whining eventually gets them candy, so now we get to put up with this garbage.
Cue the bitching - people have seen it work with the $100 store credit after the iPhone price drop, now the children have learned that their whining eventually gets them candy, so now we get to put up with this garbage.
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say what? what was from the beginning?
The apps were on the iPhone from the beginning.
Cue the bitching - people have seen it work with the $100 store credit after the iPhone price drop, now the children have learned that their whining eventually gets them candy, so now we get to put up with this garbage.
So they are waiting on a $10 store credit?
Call Apple at 408.996.1010 AND COMPLAIN
I did!
Just got the app pack, I didn't know about the Lyrics thing *dances*
I bought it, just for the ability to put my DeviantArt page as a button on my home page, that right there was worth the $20.
Although I think the upgrade price is a bit steep, I agree that the extra features are worth paying something for. As someone else mentioned, you can't expect to get new software for old hardware, free of charge.
And you Americans certainly shouldn't be complaining because the Brits are paying more and the rest of Europe slightly more on top of that. My upgrade was 18 Euros which comes to 26.78 USD. I'm not complaining, just stating the facts. I'm also used to paying a European premium with Apple.
Snip
Us Brits have been shafted big time by this software!
The 'Worldwide' Weather app doesn't recognise cities outside of the US.
It is the usual story, an American company fails to recognise other countries, it really pisses me off. They have put in the search to enter a Postcode (Trying to be British?) but try a UK postcode and it wont recognise it!
On that note, iTunes Movie Rental is not available in the UK!!
I have emailed Apple asking for a refund.