<strong>Since it doesn't seem to have been mentioned in this thread yet, I'll do it: The Register has just posted an article about G4 enhancements that are coming soon. The 7460, 7470, and 7500. These variously include a faster MPX, higher clock rates, longer pipelines, and RapidIO. The chips described could be substantial improvements over the current G4, and for that last one it wouldn't bother me if they called it a G5. This article seems in line with the recent MacCentral article, and it could explain the substantially faster test boxes that have been rumoured.
I'd buy one.</strong><hr></blockquote>
...all of which is exactly what I've been saying, without wishing to blow my own trumpet too much!
That is roughly what I'd heard. 3GHz has been pushed back a little but it fits.
The AMD stuff comes from two sources. The first was a presentation (by AMD) from a while back that I can't find any internet sources on. It basically had AMD beginning speeds sub 3GHz and aiming for 3GHz early 2003 with the hammer. Might have been pushed back though since there have been roadmap changed since then.
The second source is just a little common sense tied in with AMDs naming scheme. They have planned a release of a super duper 4000 (ok so it won't be called a super duper but naming isn't yet decided just the rating it receives) for H1 2003 subtract 25% and you get 3GHz.
It may end up being that the 4400 or something slightly below is the 3GHz version now and it has changed since the hammer was pushed back slightly.
That is roughly what I'd heard. 3GHz has been pushed back a little but it fits.
The AMD stuff comes from two sources. The first was a presentation (by AMD) from a while back that I can't find any internet sources on. It basically had AMD beginning speeds sub 3GHz and aiming for 3GHz early 2003 with the hammer. Might have been pushed back though since there have been roadmap changed since then.
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Thanks for the link Telomar - Mike MacGee has good Intel contacts so I've no doubt that the documents he cites are authentic, although I think the company may be being somewhat optimistic. To my mind more worrying than the 3GHz clock speed is the 533MHz FSB - that's an area that Apple has to keep up with. A fast Pentium 4 - even one with a clock speed lower than 3GHz - would fly nicely with that speed FSB.
It's sure run Linux nicely. Might even be capable of running Win XP at faster-than-glacial speeds...
This <a href="http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20020117S0086"; target="_blank">EETimes page</a> about multiprocessing with the 8540 bodes rather well for our G5 I think. The 8540 appears to be exceedingly multi-processor friendly, so I can only assume that the G5 will be too.
Perhaps quad-processor G5s will be commonplace in a year's time. Here's hoping!
anyway this is the original SdC or SdA or whoever I was when I started this thread, and I just wanted to add this piece of news:
Stop me if you've heard this one before, but it finally happened to me!
I met a guy who allegedly knows someone at Apple and he told me that the G5 that is going into Powrmacs will be going out the door at MW Jan 2003.
Now, I know this all sounds distressingly familiar to the vague rumors that people post here constantly, and I'm not posting it as a rumor in that sense.
But I am posting it because I never thought anyone would actually ever give me a piece of insider info.
Of course, I would advise everyone to take it with a grain of salt, because I can offer no more proof than anyone else who posts a "CONFIRMED" thread, but it was just kind of amusing nonetheless.
As for who this guy is, well he was a guy who worked on the original wireless 802.whatever standard that became Airport, and I can confirm that much. Other than that, I can't confirm anything else. FWIW, he had told me about the relaese of the 1 GHz Powermacs, but it was only a few weeks before that happened and the rumor mill was already flying, so I tendd not to think much of his prediction.
Anyway, this is the first time that any reasonable (to me; YMMV) bit of insider info came my way, so I thought I'd share, especially because it bolsters my chances of winning an iPod!
anyway this is the original SdC or SdA or whoever I was when I started this thread, and I just wanted to add this piece of news:
Stop me if you've heard this one before, but it finally happened to me!
I met a guy who allegedly knows someone at Apple and he told me that the G5 that is going into Powrmacs will be going out the door at MW Jan 2003.
Now, I know this all sounds distressingly familiar to the vague rumors that people post here constantly, and I'm not posting it as a rumor in that sense.
But I am posting it because I never thought anyone would actually ever give me a piece of insider info.
Of course, I would advise everyone to take it with a grain of salt, because I can offer no more proof than anyone else who posts a "CONFIRMED" thread, but it was just kind of amusing nonetheless.
As for who this guy is, well he was a guy who worked on the original wireless 802.whatever standard that became Airport, and I can confirm that much. Other than that, I can't confirm anything else. FWIW, he had told me about the relaese of the 1 GHz Powermacs, but it was only a few weeks before that happened and the rumor mill was already flying, so I tendd not to think much of his prediction.
Anyway, this is the first time that any reasonable (to me; YMMV) bit of insider info came my way, so I thought I'd share, especially because it bolsters my chances of winning an iPod!
Peace out, folks.
TING5</strong><hr></blockquote>
There is no end to my hatred for shorthand...what does YMMV mean?
I think us mac supporters should join some of the pc forums out there and start rumors about a super-duper ultrasecret P5 (or AMD) chip coming soon with unbelievable computational power.
<strong>I think us mac supporters should join some of the pc forums out there and start rumors about a super-duper ultrasecret P5 (or AMD) chip coming soon with unbelievable computational power.
"Thanks for the link Telomar - Mike MacGee has good Intel contacts so I've no doubt that the documents he cites are authentic, although I think the company may be being somewhat optimistic. To my mind more worrying than the 3GHz clock speed is the 533MHz FSB - that's an area that Apple has to keep up with. A fast Pentium 4 - even one with a clock speed lower than 3GHz - would fly nicely with that speed FSB."
It's the perception that Apple is so far behind.
Even Apple's PR machine is going to have to go some to fight a 500 bus with 3 gig clock speeds.
Mind you. In using a 1.6 xp Athlon and having played on a dual 1 gig...not that much to choose tween 'em. Save thousands of pounds...
[quote] I met a guy who allegedly knows someone at Apple and he told me that the G5 that is going into Powrmacs will be going out the door at MW Jan 2003.
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Too bad if that's true. Apple needs G5 powermacs this summer, not next year.
G5s at MWSF will only be playing the catch up game. The GHz gap will persist.
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<strong>Since it doesn't seem to have been mentioned in this thread yet, I'll do it: The Register has just posted an article about G4 enhancements that are coming soon. The 7460, 7470, and 7500. These variously include a faster MPX, higher clock rates, longer pipelines, and RapidIO. The chips described could be substantial improvements over the current G4, and for that last one it wouldn't bother me if they called it a G5. This article seems in line with the recent MacCentral article, and it could explain the substantially faster test boxes that have been rumoured.
I'd buy one.</strong><hr></blockquote>
...all of which is exactly what I've been saying, without wishing to blow my own trumpet too much!
<strong>
Can you give any sources for your claim that either Intel or AMD will be beyond 3GHz by 2003?
And have a good sleep!
Thanks but the sleep was lousy
<a href="http://www.theinquirer.net/05020208.htm"; target="_blank">Future Pentiums</a>
That is roughly what I'd heard. 3GHz has been pushed back a little but it fits.
The AMD stuff comes from two sources. The first was a presentation (by AMD) from a while back that I can't find any internet sources on. It basically had AMD beginning speeds sub 3GHz and aiming for 3GHz early 2003 with the hammer. Might have been pushed back though since there have been roadmap changed since then.
The second source is just a little common sense tied in with AMDs naming scheme. They have planned a release of a super duper 4000 (ok so it won't be called a super duper
It may end up being that the 4400 or something slightly below is the 3GHz version now and it has changed since the hammer was pushed back slightly.
Just twisting the knife a little.....
SDA
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That is roughly what I'd heard. 3GHz has been pushed back a little but it fits.
The AMD stuff comes from two sources. The first was a presentation (by AMD) from a while back that I can't find any internet sources on. It basically had AMD beginning speeds sub 3GHz and aiming for 3GHz early 2003 with the hammer. Might have been pushed back though since there have been roadmap changed since then.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks for the link Telomar - Mike MacGee has good Intel contacts so I've no doubt that the documents he cites are authentic, although I think the company may be being somewhat optimistic. To my mind more worrying than the 3GHz clock speed is the 533MHz FSB - that's an area that Apple has to keep up with. A fast Pentium 4 - even one with a clock speed lower than 3GHz - would fly nicely with that speed FSB.
It's sure run Linux nicely. Might even be capable of running Win XP at faster-than-glacial speeds...
Perhaps quad-processor G5s will be commonplace in a year's time. Here's hoping!
:cool:
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anyway this is the original SdC or SdA or whoever I was when I started this thread, and I just wanted to add this piece of news:
Stop me if you've heard this one before, but it finally happened to me!
I met a guy who allegedly knows someone at Apple and he told me that the G5 that is going into Powrmacs will be going out the door at MW Jan 2003.
Now, I know this all sounds distressingly familiar to the vague rumors that people post here constantly, and I'm not posting it as a rumor in that sense.
But I am posting it because I never thought anyone would actually ever give me a piece of insider info.
Of course, I would advise everyone to take it with a grain of salt, because I can offer no more proof than anyone else who posts a "CONFIRMED" thread, but it was just kind of amusing nonetheless.
As for who this guy is, well he was a guy who worked on the original wireless 802.whatever standard that became Airport, and I can confirm that much. Other than that, I can't confirm anything else. FWIW, he had told me about the relaese of the 1 GHz Powermacs, but it was only a few weeks before that happened and the rumor mill was already flying, so I tendd not to think much of his prediction.
Anyway, this is the first time that any reasonable (to me; YMMV) bit of insider info came my way, so I thought I'd share, especially because it bolsters my chances of winning an iPod!
Peace out, folks.
TING5
<strong>heya!
anyway this is the original SdC or SdA or whoever I was when I started this thread, and I just wanted to add this piece of news:
Stop me if you've heard this one before, but it finally happened to me!
I met a guy who allegedly knows someone at Apple and he told me that the G5 that is going into Powrmacs will be going out the door at MW Jan 2003.
Now, I know this all sounds distressingly familiar to the vague rumors that people post here constantly, and I'm not posting it as a rumor in that sense.
But I am posting it because I never thought anyone would actually ever give me a piece of insider info.
Of course, I would advise everyone to take it with a grain of salt, because I can offer no more proof than anyone else who posts a "CONFIRMED" thread, but it was just kind of amusing nonetheless.
As for who this guy is, well he was a guy who worked on the original wireless 802.whatever standard that became Airport, and I can confirm that much. Other than that, I can't confirm anything else. FWIW, he had told me about the relaese of the 1 GHz Powermacs, but it was only a few weeks before that happened and the rumor mill was already flying, so I tendd not to think much of his prediction.
Anyway, this is the first time that any reasonable (to me; YMMV) bit of insider info came my way, so I thought I'd share, especially because it bolsters my chances of winning an iPod!
Peace out, folks.
TING5</strong><hr></blockquote>
There is no end to my hatred for shorthand...what does YMMV mean?
<strong>
There is no end to my hatred for shorthand...what does YMMV mean?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Your mileage may very.
However, I've never gotten the FWIW thing.
Little help?
for what its worth....
Payback is a b$tch...
<strong>I think us mac supporters should join some of the pc forums out there and start rumors about a super-duper ultrasecret P5 (or AMD) chip coming soon with unbelievable computational power.
Payback is a b$tch...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, except that it would be true.
<strong>
Yeah, except that it would be true.</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
It's the perception that Apple is so far behind.
Even Apple's PR machine is going to have to go some to fight a 500 bus with 3 gig clock speeds.
Mind you. In using a 1.6 xp Athlon and having played on a dual 1 gig...not that much to choose tween 'em. Save thousands of pounds...
Lemon Bon Bon <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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Too bad if that's true. Apple needs G5 powermacs this summer, not next year.
G5s at MWSF will only be playing the catch up game. The GHz gap will persist.
<strong>"
Mind you. In using a 1.6 xp Athlon and having played on a dual 1 gig...not that much to choose tween 'em. Save thousands of pounds...
Lemon Bon Bon <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, and you get to run WinXP too! Oh boy!!
<a href="http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2002q2/pentium4-2.4/index.x?pg=1"; target="_blank">http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2002q2/pentium4-2.4/index.x?pg=1</a>;
There is no way that Intel wont be at 3GHz by the end of this year and AMD will be close to or have released theit 64bit CPU.
And there are no G5