<strong>BTW: Regarding more languages support, there are some good signs.
While installing there were many more keyboard layouts that I have been asking for for a long time: cyrillic, hebrew, and arabic.
I hope this means that by the time Jaguar comes out in September we will also see Hebrew, Arabic and Eastern European/Russian language support.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It'll be nice to be able to work with Hebrew without having to launch classic or do convoluted workarounds.
Am I the only one that thinks that "Finder Preferences" and "View Options" should be in the "System Preferences" application? I mean why have it separate from the others? It would be more efficient to combine them.
Apple has had the basically the same speech recognition software/technology for the past several years. Let's improve on this.
Sorry for the away time -- been doing "real" work in 10.1.
Anyway, here are a few things about 10.2 that I forgot to mention:
The caret/insertion point/whatever DOES show properly in the Finder now. You may now rest easier at night. ZO: Are you sure about what you posted? Take a look at this new movie if you don't believe me:
cmd-` now cycles windows in the Finder! Woo-hoo! (I don't know if it's different with international keyboards that have a different layout -- I understand this has been a hot topic WRT that issue.) The "go to folder" has been remapped to command-shift-g.
The Finder toolbar is *starting* to behave move like a normal toolbar. You can now control-click it to show the usual context menu.
I'm not sure if someone else mentioned this, but services are now working in the Finder. You can successfully select a file and, for example, use "Mail Document."
Apple System Profiler has undergone a MAJOR facelift! I'll post screenshots if anyone is interested.
Help Viewer has also undergone a MAJOR upgrade. it has a "real" toolbar now.
Disk Utility now has a "Repair Disk Permissions" which would seem to help novices who fool around with the Terminal or something and screw up their system's permissions.
Carbon dialog navigation is still sorely broken. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
[quote]Hey Starfleet... do Apps like Mozilla get Quartz Antialiased text?<hr></blockquote>No, Mozilla does not magically convert its WASTE to ATSUI. Same goes for Microsoft Office. ZO: Entourage has always been "mostly" switched over to ATSUI. Are you sure you haven't just changed your font prefs somewhere?
Oh, and did I mention that Quartz Extreme is buggy as hell?
[QB][list][*]The caret/insertion point/whatever DOES show properly in the Finder now. You may now rest easier at night. ZO: Are you sure about what you posted? Take a look at this new movie if you don't believe me:
<hr></blockquote>
The dissappearing caret has happened with me on my iBook also in 10.1 and continues to do so in Jag.
[quote]Same goes for Microsoft Office. ZO: Entourage has always been "mostly" switched over to ATSUI. Are you sure you haven't just changed your font prefs somewhere?
<hr></blockquote>
Didnt touch anything. Just strated up Entourage and the window where there email messages are dispalyed is all antialiased. I'll take a screen shot later.
[quote]
Oh, and did I mention that Quartz Extreme is buggy as hell?
Have patience... it will mature to be great...
<hr></blockquote>
Buggy is an understatement. I played Quake 3 and it blocked the whole OS. Then again that happned to me before in 10.1
[quote]The dissappearing caret has happened with me on my iBook also in 10.1 and continues to do so in Jag.<hr></blockquote>Strange. The disappearing cursor has annoyed me since the Public Beta and every single build since up until this 10.2 build. I wonder if the QE has anything to do with the fact that mine is fixed and yours isn't. Hmmm. [quote]Didnt touch anything. Just strated up Entourage and the window where there email messages are dispalyed is all antialiased. I'll take a screen shot later.<hr></blockquote>Sure thing -- actually, I've already taken a snapshot to clarify exactly where I see the different styles of text.
Perhaps this doesn't belong here as it might be a matter of taste... however, I've always found Windows's (I use NT at work) ALT-Tabbing far superior to OSX's Apple-Tabbing.
I usually use it to switch back and forth betweeen two apps I'm working on (BBEdit/Transmit , BBEdit/IE , etc.). In NT, the tab order is last used window, so you can keep going back and forth between two windows. In OSX, it's the order they're running in the dock...so if I have ten things running, I have to alt-tab 9 times to switch between two windows (or alt-tab-shift...but that's just abominable).
Has this changed at all in Jaguar? (and does anyone else get pissed at OSX's implementation?)
Starfleet - not to be a knowledge leech but would you mind posting screenies of the new Apple System Profiler? And any experiences/screenshots involving Rendevous? Thanks for all the info, bud.
<strong>Perhaps this doesn't belong here as it might be a matter of taste... however, I've always found Windows's (I use NT at work) ALT-Tabbing far superior to OSX's Apple-Tabbing.
I usually use it to switch back and forth betweeen two apps I'm working on (BBEdit/Transmit , BBEdit/IE , etc.). In NT, the tab order is last used window, so you can keep going back and forth between two windows. In OSX, it's the order they're running in the dock...so if I have ten things running, I have to alt-tab 9 times to switch between two windows (or alt-tab-shift...but that's just abominable).
Has this changed at all in Jaguar? (and does anyone else get pissed at OSX's implementation?)
rr.</strong><hr></blockquote>
In OS X, many apps use Command-` (the key above tab) to switch between windows within itself.
Do you think that Jaguar will include USB Printer Share? I really like this feature, and wish OS X already had it? Any thoughts as to when we will see it?
<strong>Do windows remember their settings? I hate the way the finder always defaults to the same small size.</strong><hr></blockquote>
No, they don't remember their settings unless you do what has worked in all versions of OSX. Close all the finder windows, open a new one, resize, choose view, position where you want it, then CLOSE IT RIGHT AWAY. Open a new window et viola! a properly sized and positioned window. Annoying, yes, but workaroundable.
Comments
<strong>
BTW, I think it's called an intersection point.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Insertion point or Caret.
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25233.html"; target="_blank">http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/25233.html</a>;
<strong>BTW: Regarding more languages support, there are some good signs.
While installing there were many more keyboard layouts that I have been asking for for a long time: cyrillic, hebrew, and arabic.
I hope this means that by the time Jaguar comes out in September we will also see Hebrew, Arabic and Eastern European/Russian language support.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It'll be nice to be able to work with Hebrew without having to launch classic or do convoluted workarounds.
Hopefully 9 will be dead for me soon
- Four Things:
- Am I the only one that thinks that "Finder Preferences" and "View Options" should be in the "System Preferences" application? I mean why have it separate from the others?
It would be more efficient to combine them.
- Apple has had the basically the same speech recognition software/technology for the past several years. Let's improve on this.
- <a href="http://www.thinksecret.com/features/jaguarfindersystem/"; target="_blank">Think Secret's Jaguar Screenshots (May 13th)</a> Quick! Before Apple gets to them first.
- Jaguar makes OS X a much more mature OS for critics, users, and converts alike. Enjoy.
[ 05-13-2002: Message edited by: sjpsu ]</p>Anyway, here are a few things about 10.2 that I forgot to mention:
- The caret/insertion point/whatever DOES show properly in the Finder now. You may now rest easier at night. ZO: Are you sure about what you posted? Take a look at this new movie if you don't believe me:
- cmd-` now cycles windows in the Finder! Woo-hoo! (I don't know if it's different with international keyboards that have a different layout -- I understand this has been a hot topic WRT that issue.) The "go to folder" has been remapped to command-shift-g.
- The Finder toolbar is *starting* to behave move like a normal toolbar. You can now control-click it to show the usual context menu.
- I'm not sure if someone else mentioned this, but services are now working in the Finder. You can successfully select a file and, for example, use "Mail Document."
- Apple System Profiler has undergone a MAJOR facelift! I'll post screenshots if anyone is interested.
- Help Viewer has also undergone a MAJOR upgrade. it has a "real" toolbar now.
- Disk Utility now has a "Repair Disk Permissions" which would seem to help novices who fool around with the Terminal or something and screw up their system's permissions.
- Carbon dialog navigation is still sorely broken. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
[quote]Hey Starfleet... do Apps like Mozilla get Quartz Antialiased text?<hr></blockquote>No, Mozilla does not magically convert its WASTE to ATSUI. Same goes for Microsoft Office. ZO: Entourage has always been "mostly" switched over to ATSUI. Are you sure you haven't just changed your font prefs somewhere?<a href="http://brad.project-think.com/movies/Jag-finder-renaming.mov"; target="_blank">http://brad.project-think.com/movies/Jag-finder-renaming.mov</a>;
Oh, and did I mention that Quartz Extreme is buggy as hell?
Have patience... it will mature to be great...
[ 05-13-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>
<strong>The Audio Midi Setup doesnt have any other prefs than the screenshot. You can notice the icon for it in the doc.</strong><hr></blockquote>
So the "MIDI Devices" tab is just blank?
-s*
<strong>So the "MIDI Devices" tab is just blank?</strong><hr></blockquote>Does this answer your question?
Of course, I suppose it doesn't help that I have no MIDI card.
[QB][list][*]The caret/insertion point/whatever DOES show properly in the Finder now. You may now rest easier at night. ZO: Are you sure about what you posted? Take a look at this new movie if you don't believe me:
<hr></blockquote>
The dissappearing caret has happened with me on my iBook also in 10.1 and continues to do so in Jag.
[quote]Same goes for Microsoft Office. ZO: Entourage has always been "mostly" switched over to ATSUI. Are you sure you haven't just changed your font prefs somewhere?
<hr></blockquote>
Didnt touch anything. Just strated up Entourage and the window where there email messages are dispalyed is all antialiased. I'll take a screen shot later.
[quote]
Oh, and did I mention that Quartz Extreme is buggy as hell?
Have patience... it will mature to be great...
<hr></blockquote>
Buggy is an understatement. I played Quake 3 and it blocked the whole OS. Then again that happned to me before in 10.1
[ 05-13-2002: Message edited by: richard788 ]</p>
<a href="http://brad.project-think.com/images/Jag-waste-atsui.png"; target="_blank">
Click for teh biggar!
Note where Entourage uses WASTE and then compare to the snapshot of the same text copied into TextEdit below.
Do SpringLoaded Folders have 'click and a half' functionality??
BuonRotto, I think your idea is a good one. I for one promise to stop ragging on X!
<strong>Does this answer your question?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Er, yeah, thanks!
-spheric*
I usually use it to switch back and forth betweeen two apps I'm working on (BBEdit/Transmit , BBEdit/IE , etc.). In NT, the tab order is last used window, so you can keep going back and forth between two windows. In OSX, it's the order they're running in the dock...so if I have ten things running, I have to alt-tab 9 times to switch between two windows (or alt-tab-shift...but that's just abominable).
Has this changed at all in Jaguar? (and does anyone else get pissed at OSX's implementation?)
rr.
<strong>Perhaps this doesn't belong here as it might be a matter of taste... however, I've always found Windows's (I use NT at work) ALT-Tabbing far superior to OSX's Apple-Tabbing.
I usually use it to switch back and forth betweeen two apps I'm working on (BBEdit/Transmit , BBEdit/IE , etc.). In NT, the tab order is last used window, so you can keep going back and forth between two windows. In OSX, it's the order they're running in the dock...so if I have ten things running, I have to alt-tab 9 times to switch between two windows (or alt-tab-shift...but that's just abominable).
Has this changed at all in Jaguar? (and does anyone else get pissed at OSX's implementation?)
rr.</strong><hr></blockquote>
In OS X, many apps use Command-` (the key above tab) to switch between windows within itself.
<strong>Btw, ScreenSavers has been renamed "Screen Effects"
This could imply more than just screen savers, perhaps the ability to use a screensaver as wallpaper, like the SGI "cpu killer" background.
<strong>Do windows remember their settings? I hate the way the finder always defaults to the same small size.</strong><hr></blockquote>
No, they don't remember their settings unless you do what has worked in all versions of OSX. Close all the finder windows, open a new one, resize, choose view, position where you want it, then CLOSE IT RIGHT AWAY. Open a new window et viola! a properly sized and positioned window. Annoying, yes, but workaroundable.
[ 05-13-2002: Message edited by: torifile ]</p>