<strong>So, it's really up to the developers to come up with intersting (eg: 40 terminals over a DVD) and useful (eg: the film compositing demo) ways to use this new power.</strong><hr></blockquote>Man, oh man... thinking back to the acquisition of Nothing Real, this could mean awesome things for Final Cut Pro. Woo-hoo!!
<strong>Man, oh man... thinking back to the acquisition of Nothing Real, this could mean awesome things for Final Cut Pro. Woo-hoo!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yup, that's exactly what I thought after the end of the week. It's all starting to make sense. Apple may not have the sheer processor power to compete with the other guys, but that has forced Apple to be creative and resourceful with what they already have, and the results should be stunning.
[quote]<strong>Thanks for the details, King! </strong><hr></blockquote>
<strong>So, to reiterate, Quartz Extreme does not accelerate Quartz 2D.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Before somebody panics or yells heresy about this line thinking that we're never going to have decent 2D acceleration in Mac OS X, let me say this: Although Quartz Extreme does not accelerate Quartz 2D, Apple has not been standing still in terms of accelerating 2D operations. So, fear not!
To be perfectly honest, my line of thinking was that the folks who were complaining about lack of QE (QX?) on their older systems now have something to really complain about. QE seemed like a gimmick to give the system a speed boost(well, gimmick is too strong a word), but now it sounds like a hell of a lot more. I'd be kinda pissed to be out of the loop on this one! But then again, who expected an iBook to do this real-time heavy compositing type stuff?
<strong>To be perfectly honest, my line of thinking was that the folks who were complaining about lack of QE (QX?) on their older systems now have something to really complain about.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It is always unfortunate when backwards compatibility is sacrificed or lost. Personally, I applause Apple for taking such a bold move this time around and taking the bleeding edge when it comes to graphics capabilities, especially since Apple is the "leader" for graphics. In fact, the real-time blue-screening demo that I mentioned above only* works on GeForce4 Titanium video cards. Now, how many of those are out there?
(* "only" refers to the implementation demonstrated; it does not necessarily mean that other video cards are completely incapable of performing real-time chroma keys)
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The most interesting feature to me is the ability to drag minimized windows out of the dock and leave them on the desktop, still minimized, app badges still intact. I know that it's been mentioned before, but I actually saw it in action today and I'm in love! I wish I could get the window to minimize back to that spot rather than to the dock afterwards. I guess I'm easy to impress, but I thought that there could be some really useful implementations of this feature. Such as 'stacking' windows on top of one another and then making them a 'package'. You know, you're working on several documents/files simultaneously for a project. If I could place them in a particular spot on the desktop and then make them a bundle of some sort, then have a contextual menu to move between them, it would be great! Is this possible or am I talking gibberish (quite possible after staring at BBEdit long enough to think that the syntax colors are purty)?
I agree that, in concept, the mini windows are a cool feature. I hope they expand on the possibilities here such as (we mentioned this in a previous thread) "magnetic" edges, piles, expanding and minimizing in place, contextual clicks, some possible variation on single-window mode (single big-window mode?) -- some way to help the user organize themselves better and provide more funcationality to each window for advanced users.
<strong>\\I hope they expand on the possibilities here such as (we mentioned this in a previous thread) "magnetic" edges, piles...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Mmm. Piles. Memories of Copland...
As I recall, Apple's human interface group wrote up a paper about the concept of "piles" for Mac OS 8 (Copland). I still think it's a great idea, and it certainly sounds like Mac OS X could be easily extended to support this unique organizational methodology.
(Wrote this in another thread, but I suppose it applies to this as well...)
I guess this little detail Apple has put into the Unix-based OS X is the ultimate answer to the ultimate question in another forum (the question being: WTF happened to our OS?!)...
It's getting better and better.
What Apple has done with the Unix underpinning is absolutely amazing. From the potentionally unimaginably powerful Quartz Extreme to the user-friendly kernal panic, I'd like to go out on a limb and say that OS X is coming along just nicely, eh?
Does terminal now support more characters like å (aring) and ö (odiaeresis). It's kinda a pain to not be able to name or display files properly in the term, and apple makes a big deal of X's multilinguistics.
Does teminal support colours. I think colour listing is very useful. xterm does both (on linux, anyway), so it can't be THAT hard to do, can it?
or is the problem with darwin rather than the terminal app?
Never mind anything else about Jaguar - it has spring loaded folders again! Woo hoo! I always missed that feature when copying files into my backup foler and stuff, good to have it back! The rest of the features look cool too, can't wait!
Anyone any idea when jaguar will be out by the way? I know I am a little behdin the times perhaps, and this is common knowledge, but will it be out at MYNY? The fact that it is being shown on the Apple site suggests it will be, can anyone confirm this? Thanks
What about monitor spanning where one monitor is hooked up to an AGP card and one is hooked up to a PCI card? What happens to the video playing on both? How does QE work with that?
<strong>What about monitor spanning where one monitor is hooked up to an AGP card and one is hooked up to a PCI card? What happens to the video playing on both? Does that work?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have only used a dual-monitor setup on windows up to now, but at least there the video only ever plays on one screen at once (i.e. if you move the movie window so it has parts on both screens, the part on one display will play as normal, and the part on the other one will just be black. At least that's how it worked on a Radeon VE w/ 2 monitors attached.
<strong>Question: how big are these mini windows? Do they stay the size of the Dock icons, or do they become full 128 x 128 pixel size?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I did it once, don't like it but they stay kinda small. Not sure it it's relative to your icon settings for the desktop or what, but yes, I'd say they become icons.
Alsom anyone use the finder to search? Sherlock no longer searches files, and when you search in the finder, the finder window turns into sherlock-like. The preview pane (at the bottom) slides out, and all. The bad thing, is it searches the drive you selected in, so not sure how to search all mounted disk, maybe selecting them all at root then searching...
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<strong>So, it's really up to the developers to come up with intersting (eg: 40 terminals over a DVD) and useful (eg: the film compositing demo) ways to use this new power.</strong><hr></blockquote>Man, oh man... thinking back to the acquisition of Nothing Real, this could mean awesome things for Final Cut Pro. Woo-hoo!!
Thanks for the details, King!
<strong>Man, oh man... thinking back to the acquisition of Nothing Real, this could mean awesome things for Final Cut Pro. Woo-hoo!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yup, that's exactly what I thought after the end of the week. It's all starting to make sense. Apple may not have the sheer processor power to compete with the other guys, but that has forced Apple to be creative and resourceful with what they already have, and the results should be stunning.
[quote]<strong>Thanks for the details, King!
You're welcome.
<strong>So, to reiterate, Quartz Extreme does not accelerate Quartz 2D.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Before somebody panics or yells heresy about this line thinking that we're never going to have decent 2D acceleration in Mac OS X, let me say this: Although Quartz Extreme does not accelerate Quartz 2D, Apple has not been standing still in terms of accelerating 2D operations. So, fear not!
Well, in any case, thanks!
<strong>To be perfectly honest, my line of thinking was that the folks who were complaining about lack of QE (QX?) on their older systems now have something to really complain about.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It is always unfortunate when backwards compatibility is sacrificed or lost. Personally, I applause Apple for taking such a bold move this time around and taking the bleeding edge when it comes to graphics capabilities, especially since Apple is the "leader" for graphics. In fact, the real-time blue-screening demo that I mentioned above only* works on GeForce4 Titanium video cards. Now, how many of those are out there?
(* "only" refers to the implementation demonstrated; it does not necessarily mean that other video cards are completely incapable of performing real-time chroma keys)
[ 05-21-2002: Message edited by: King Chung Huang ]</p>
<strong>\\I hope they expand on the possibilities here such as (we mentioned this in a previous thread) "magnetic" edges, piles...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Mmm. Piles. Memories of Copland...
As I recall, Apple's human interface group wrote up a paper about the concept of "piles" for Mac OS 8 (Copland). I still think it's a great idea, and it certainly sounds like Mac OS X could be easily extended to support this unique organizational methodology.
:eek:
Lemon Bon Bon
I can hardly wait.
I guess this little detail Apple has put into the Unix-based OS X is the ultimate answer to the ultimate question in another forum (the question being: WTF happened to our OS?!)...
It's getting better and better.
What Apple has done with the Unix underpinning is absolutely amazing. From the potentionally unimaginably powerful Quartz Extreme to the user-friendly kernal panic, I'd like to go out on a limb and say that OS X is coming along just nicely, eh?
Does teminal support colours. I think colour listing is very useful. xterm does both (on linux, anyway), so it can't be THAT hard to do, can it?
or is the problem with darwin rather than the terminal app?
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Anyone any idea when jaguar will be out by the way? I know I am a little behdin the times perhaps, and this is common knowledge, but will it be out at MYNY? The fact that it is being shown on the Apple site suggests it will be, can anyone confirm this? Thanks
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<strong>What about monitor spanning where one monitor is hooked up to an AGP card and one is hooked up to a PCI card? What happens to the video playing on both? Does that work?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have only used a dual-monitor setup on windows up to now, but at least there the video only ever plays on one screen at once (i.e. if you move the movie window so it has parts on both screens, the part on one display will play as normal, and the part on the other one will just be black. At least that's how it worked on a Radeon VE w/ 2 monitors attached.
Bye,
RazzFazz
<strong>Question: how big are these mini windows? Do they stay the size of the Dock icons, or do they become full 128 x 128 pixel size?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I did it once, don't like it but they stay kinda small. Not sure it it's relative to your icon settings for the desktop or what, but yes, I'd say they become icons.
Alsom anyone use the finder to search? Sherlock no longer searches files, and when you search in the finder, the finder window turns into sherlock-like. The preview pane (at the bottom) slides out, and all. The bad thing, is it searches the drive you selected in, so not sure how to search all mounted disk, maybe selecting them all at root then searching...