I agree, it's silly, but it's harmless fun, if ppl get a kick out of it let them do it, it's not hurting anyone, they'll probably meet a lot of ppl, is sitting infront of a computer reading forums meant to be more enlightened?
What? That's a ridiculous stance. After all, you can get up from your computer and go do other things like swim, go to town and meet people as I did today. Getting in line now is nothing short of sad. Capitalism at its worst if you ask me.
Just an opinion, but I image they're in line to buy several of them and then scalp them on eBay or another country. Otherwise I don't see why on earth anyone would stand in line for a week for anything but food.
'Butchering' may be a bit melodramatic, but one Americanism that I do not understand is the dropping of essential prepositions. I hope it's not just laziness, but it can lead to ambiguity. For example 'I'm going to write my Congressman'. Go on then, write 'my Congressman', it's only two words! Whereas 'I'm gong to write to my Congressman' does communicate what you actually intend to do.
As regards the article: the very concept of a "well-known line waiter" indicates it is not just an ocean and a language which separates our two cultures!
On an unrelated note, I think it's funny that you British (and I think Aussies/Kiwis as well) use the terms "queue" and "queuing" which are actually much more precise than the average American using "standing in a line" or "lining up". Leave It to Americans to butcher the hell out of proper english..
OK, My question is: In New York, where they say "on line" instead of "in line," ("I'm waiting on line for the new iPhone.") what do they say to mean "online," like we are right now?
(Don't forget the audible "g" between "waiting" and "on!")
OK, My question is: In New York, where they say "on line" instead of "in line," ("I'm waiting on line for the new iPhone.") what do they say to mean "online," like we are right now?
Supposedly that was because immigrants coming through Ellis Island had to wait, standing on lines painted on the floor, following the lines as people moved.
On an unrelated note, I think it's funny that you British (and I think Aussies/Kiwis as well) use the terms "queue" and "queuing" which are actually much more precise than the average American using "standing in a line" or "lining up". Leave It[sic] to Americans to butcher the hell out of proper english[sic]..
OK, My question is: In New York, where they say "on line" instead of "in line," ("I'm waiting on line for the new iPhone.") what do they say to mean "online," like we are right now?
This omission isn't laziness, it's the dialect used by that culture. The UK does it as well but for different terms like, "I go to Hospital/university."
There are plenty of ways in which we can clarify language and it's often much needed on forums where we come from different cultures and countries, and have different backgrounds and ages. For instance, I try to profile everyone I meet online by the conversations I read. I do this to give substance and form to an otherwise flat character. But sometimes I read something and have no idea if the poster is young but intelligent, old but none to bright, or perhaps English isn't their first language.
One thing I relish about about this era is that the internet has been a great place for some many people throughout the world to meet each other who would have otherwise never had the chance. There are a bound to me many misunderstandings, but as long as we all follow the general rule that 'I am more right than you' then we will okay.
Seriously though, I wonder if your example of "on line" became standard by people in an areas by the actual standing on a physical line. I think I've seen prison movies/shows where they have had people do that.
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Originally Posted by NasserAE
VOIP for the iPhone is already in development using the SDK officially. Check it out http://www.icall.com/iphone/
I'm glad they are letting some through, I hope that means Skype is allowed too. Their FAQ state: "Apple has explicitly stated that VoIP is allowed, just not over Edge networks. Steve himself answered this question in the Q&A session after the last keynote speech." I'm pretty sure the SDK states no VoIP over the cell carrier's network, referring to EFGE or UMTS, but I'd have to look it up to be sure.
If someone comes up with unlocking tool I really hope it is totally reversible to avoid warranty cancelation by Apple.
Just like with the current iPhone, you can use iTunes to restore it it's original state as it's only a SW unlock. I suppose it's possible that Apple has used a chip that will make SW unlocking impossible, but I doubt it.
ok, if we assume these are not some people who are being paid for this (great publicity obviously) we must deduct that:
1) a great deal of the US population has gone insane
2) there are people that never leave their basement other than when apple releases a product
3) inexplicable herd behavior warranting further investigation
4) the media is feeding us more and more news which is actually none, as to keep up from possibly thinking about real issues concerning us all
the count
Rather sketchy logic here...
1) Right now we are talking about a line of 10 people in a country of several hundred million. "a great deal of the US population?"
2) What about the article made you think about basements?
3) Herd behavior? When a tiny minority do something that apparently many people will ridicule? Actually, the herd behavior on this board is to mock them (that would include you--Mooo)
4) This point may me the most logical of your post, but it seems to have little to do with this story.
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Originally Posted by Ireland
This is sick, it's just fucking phone.
Yeah, not like its an iTablet
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Originally Posted by Ireland
What? That's a ridiculous stance. After all, you can get up from your computer and go do other things like swim, go to town and meet people as I did today. Getting in line now is nothing short of sad. Capitalism at its worst if you ask me.
Capitalism at its worst?
this is hyperbole at its worst! It would be off topic, but I am sure it would not be too hard to find side effects of Capitalism that include things like hunger, poverty and war...[This is not an endorsement of any other economic system]
Honestly, I don't see why people have to get so angry and feel so superior whenever they see anyone doing something that makes no sense to them. I personally don't see the point in waiting in line a week for an expensive, albeit apparently cool, phone, but it is something I might queue up for a day or two if I had the time. I might enjoy the event and I certainly wouldn't be hurting anyone. To those of you feeling enraged at those whose behavior does not match your expectations: please be assured that those on line will be happier without you there.
Well said. Btw, here in Japan it's being released next week and there isn't one commercial or banner about the iPhone anywhere in sight lol I think only hard core Mac fans here know about it.
I hope that is the case, as it means I'll be able to go to my local Softbank store when it opens next Friday, with no queueing, and pick one up easily
Continuing this digression a little, a friend of mine already on Softbank got an email from them about the iPhone. Apparently even if current Softbank customers are on the 'white plan' and therefore get unlimited emails to other softbank users, iPhone customers will be excluded from this. In other words existing Softbank users who don't have an iPhone will have to pay to send email to iPhone customers, despite being on 'unlimited' plans. Not sure what's going on there...
Apologies for the slightly off-topic nature of my post
I'm one of the biggest Apple-heads I know...but this is just plain STUPID.
Sure, if you're doin it for shits and giggles with some crazy friends...fine. Have fun.
But if you're doing it for bragging rights or because you think they'll be sold out...I guarantee you that you'll be able to nab a 3G iphone the day after they come out too.
Seriously though, I wonder if your example of "on line" became standard by people in an areas by the actual standing on a physical line. I think I've seen prison movies/shows where they have had people do that.
This doesn't directly relate to the quote above, but I have been thinking about it throughout the thread.
I remember being in an English language classroom in a university in Mexico and seeing what was left on the board. It was a list illustrating "in," "at," and "on" in English. The list went something like this:
on the bus
at school
in the class
on the phone
at lunch
in the cafeteria
I never really thought about how mind-bending those subtle differences might be for non-native English speakers before that moment. Now I have to think about how mind bending those subtle differences are for native English speakers from different regions too! (It never occurred to me that "waiting on line" was New Yorkian, and not American English...
When one of you apple faithful acquires a new 3G model of the iPhone, would you please think of donating your old 1st generation model to one of the depraved canadian folk, who are forced into 3 years of Limited data if they want any (canadian) iPhone at all.
Those are good examples how we pigeonhole ourselves into thinking one form is more correct than the other.
On the bus is far less precise than in the bus, unless we mean we have jumped on the hood, bumper or roof.
When we are at school, we can also be in school as it relates to the school's grounds, a building on the property or even the time in which school takes place.
Yet it would be illogical to say we are in the phone, but we could say we are at the phone if somehow we are relating to geographical location.
We can be at, on or in lunch. All have the same meaning and I know I have used each of those phrasing on numerous occasions while at or in the cafeteria but never on the cafeteria.
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I agree, it's silly, but it's harmless fun, if ppl get a kick out of it let them do it, it's not hurting anyone, they'll probably meet a lot of ppl, is sitting infront of a computer reading forums meant to be more enlightened?
What? That's a ridiculous stance. After all, you can get up from your computer and go do other things like swim, go to town and meet people as I did today. Getting in line now is nothing short of sad. Capitalism at its worst if you ask me.
It makes for great headlines, so I can't diss them too much.
(I love this guy)
Be creative Spam, you can diss the shit out of these lowlifes.
Trust me, if you can spend a week waiting in line for a phone you're not going to have anyone to call in the end. Kind of a contradiction in terms
Just an opinion, but I image they're in line to buy several of them and then scalp them on eBay or another country. Otherwise I don't see why on earth anyone would stand in line for a week for anything but food.
One per customer this time.
As regards the article: the very concept of a "well-known line waiter" indicates it is not just an ocean and a language which separates our two cultures!
Is it you who owned that url since 1996?
I wish!!!
With all those BS lawsuits going around, I would have sued Apple for using the "i" on their products
On an unrelated note, I think it's funny that you British (and I think Aussies/Kiwis as well) use the terms "queue" and "queuing" which are actually much more precise than the average American using "standing in a line" or "lining up". Leave It to Americans to butcher the hell out of proper english..
OK, My question is: In New York, where they say "on line" instead of "in line," ("I'm waiting on line for the new iPhone.") what do they say to mean "online," like we are right now?
(Don't forget the audible "g" between "waiting" and "on!")
What's the point if jailbreaking and unlocking the 2.0 iPhone
1) If you want apps on your iPhone that Apple has forbid.
2) If you are traveling outside your country and wish to your iPhone, but a local carrier's SIM to reduce charges.
OK, My question is: In New York, where they say "on line" instead of "in line," ("I'm waiting on line for the new iPhone.") what do they say to mean "online," like we are right now?
Supposedly that was because immigrants coming through Ellis Island had to wait, standing on lines painted on the floor, following the lines as people moved.
1) If you want apps on your iPhone that Apple has forbid.
2) If you are traveling outside your country and wish to your iPhone, but a local carrier's SIM to reduce charges.
you mean porn apps
just kidding
If someone comes up with unlocking tool I really hope it is totally reversible to avoid warranty cancelation by Apple.
On an unrelated note, I think it's funny that you British (and I think Aussies/Kiwis as well) use the terms "queue" and "queuing" which are actually much more precise than the average American using "standing in a line" or "lining up". Leave It[sic] to Americans to butcher the hell out of proper english[sic]..
That's "it" and "English"
OK, My question is: In New York, where they say "on line" instead of "in line," ("I'm waiting on line for the new iPhone.") what do they say to mean "online," like we are right now?
This omission isn't laziness, it's the dialect used by that culture. The UK does it as well but for different terms like, "I go to Hospital/university."
There are plenty of ways in which we can clarify language and it's often much needed on forums where we come from different cultures and countries, and have different backgrounds and ages. For instance, I try to profile everyone I meet online by the conversations I read. I do this to give substance and form to an otherwise flat character. But sometimes I read something and have no idea if the poster is young but intelligent, old but none to bright, or perhaps English isn't their first language.
One thing I relish about about this era is that the internet has been a great place for some many people throughout the world to meet each other who would have otherwise never had the chance. There are a bound to me many misunderstandings, but as long as we all follow the general rule that 'I am more right than you' then we will okay.
Seriously though, I wonder if your example of "on line" became standard by people in an areas by the actual standing on a physical line. I think I've seen prison movies/shows where they have had people do that.
VOIP for the iPhone is already in development using the SDK officially. Check it out http://www.icall.com/iphone/
I'm glad they are letting some through, I hope that means Skype is allowed too. Their FAQ state: "Apple has explicitly stated that VoIP is allowed, just not over Edge networks. Steve himself answered this question in the Q&A session after the last keynote speech." I'm pretty sure the SDK states no VoIP over the cell carrier's network, referring to EFGE or UMTS, but I'd have to look it up to be sure.
you mean porn apps
just kidding
If someone comes up with unlocking tool I really hope it is totally reversible to avoid warranty cancelation by Apple.
Just like with the current iPhone, you can use iTunes to restore it it's original state as it's only a SW unlock. I suppose it's possible that Apple has used a chip that will make SW unlocking impossible, but I doubt it.
ok, if we assume these are not some people who are being paid for this (great publicity obviously) we must deduct that:
1) a great deal of the US population has gone insane
2) there are people that never leave their basement other than when apple releases a product
3) inexplicable herd behavior warranting further investigation
4) the media is feeding us more and more news which is actually none, as to keep up from possibly thinking about real issues concerning us all
the count
Rather sketchy logic here...
1) Right now we are talking about a line of 10 people in a country of several hundred million. "a great deal of the US population?"
2) What about the article made you think about basements?
3) Herd behavior? When a tiny minority do something that apparently many people will ridicule? Actually, the herd behavior on this board is to mock them (that would include you--Mooo)
4) This point may me the most logical of your post, but it seems to have little to do with this story.
This is sick, it's just fucking phone.
Yeah, not like its an iTablet
What? That's a ridiculous stance. After all, you can get up from your computer and go do other things like swim, go to town and meet people as I did today. Getting in line now is nothing short of sad. Capitalism at its worst if you ask me.
Capitalism at its worst?
this is hyperbole at its worst! It would be off topic, but I am sure it would not be too hard to find side effects of Capitalism that include things like hunger, poverty and war...[This is not an endorsement of any other economic system]
Honestly, I don't see why people have to get so angry and feel so superior whenever they see anyone doing something that makes no sense to them. I personally don't see the point in waiting in line a week for an expensive, albeit apparently cool, phone, but it is something I might queue up for a day or two if I had the time. I might enjoy the event and I certainly wouldn't be hurting anyone. To those of you feeling enraged at those whose behavior does not match your expectations: please be assured that those on line will be happier without you there.
Well said. Btw, here in Japan it's being released next week and there isn't one commercial or banner about the iPhone anywhere in sight lol I think only hard core Mac fans here know about it.
I hope that is the case, as it means I'll be able to go to my local Softbank store when it opens next Friday, with no queueing, and pick one up easily
Continuing this digression a little, a friend of mine already on Softbank got an email from them about the iPhone. Apparently even if current Softbank customers are on the 'white plan' and therefore get unlimited emails to other softbank users, iPhone customers will be excluded from this. In other words existing Softbank users who don't have an iPhone will have to pay to send email to iPhone customers, despite being on 'unlimited' plans. Not sure what's going on there...
Apologies for the slightly off-topic nature of my post
Sure, if you're doin it for shits and giggles with some crazy friends...fine. Have fun.
But if you're doing it for bragging rights or because you think they'll be sold out...I guarantee you that you'll be able to nab a 3G iphone the day after they come out too.
Seriously though, I wonder if your example of "on line" became standard by people in an areas by the actual standing on a physical line. I think I've seen prison movies/shows where they have had people do that.
This doesn't directly relate to the quote above, but I have been thinking about it throughout the thread.
I remember being in an English language classroom in a university in Mexico and seeing what was left on the board. It was a list illustrating "in," "at," and "on" in English. The list went something like this:
on the bus
at school
in the class
on the phone
at lunch
in the cafeteria
I never really thought about how mind-bending those subtle differences might be for non-native English speakers before that moment. Now I have to think about how mind bending those subtle differences are for native English speakers from different regions too! (It never occurred to me that "waiting on line" was New Yorkian, and not American English...
Happy July 4th. Enjoy.
When one of you apple faithful acquires a new 3G model of the iPhone, would you please think of donating your old 1st generation model to one of the depraved canadian folk, who are forced into 3 years of Limited data if they want any (canadian) iPhone at all.
We'd all be much obliged up here.
on the bus
at school
in the class
on the phone
at lunch
in the cafeteria
Those are good examples how we pigeonhole ourselves into thinking one form is more correct than the other.
On the bus is far less precise than in the bus, unless we mean we have jumped on the hood, bumper or roof.
When we are at school, we can also be in school as it relates to the school's grounds, a building on the property or even the time in which school takes place.
Yet it would be illogical to say we are in the phone, but we could say we are at the phone if somehow we are relating to geographical location.
We can be at, on or in lunch. All have the same meaning and I know I have used each of those phrasing on numerous occasions while at or in the cafeteria but never on the cafeteria.