i could careless about the iphone it need alot of basic features for me to buy it. i am just wanting them to get he new computers out before colleges start there fall semster.
before jump the gun, it will cost more than US $1K ... start your engines ...
I didn't see pricing there, but prices have been posted on other sites.
Those prices are for bins of 1,000. Any company that buys more will get better pricing. If Apple buys 50,000 it will be much better. More than that, and it will be lower still. Apple could pay $600 for the chip.
I wish they release before back to school, but from now to till sep, not much time there given there seems to problem with integrated graphics which puts brakes on mac book...
mel, is Nehalem will use same mother board as current (newer ones?)?
No. Nehalen is a break from the past. No FSB!!!
These chips now use integrated memory controllers like AMD. Therefore, entirely new mobo's are required.
This is all good. Less support chips mean less complexity. It also means much better memory access speeds. There will also be two threads per core. This will give 8 threads for a 4 core chip. While a thread isn't quite the same as an additional core, for many purposes it's about as good, and uses less power than an additional core, because very little additional circuitry is required for it.
It also can use DDR 3 rather than the power hungry FB-DIMMs.
These chips now use integrated memory controllers like AMD. Therefore, entirely new mobo's are required.
This is all good. Less support chips mean less complexity. It also means much better memory access speeds. There will also be two threads per core. This will give 8 threads for a 4 core chip. While a thread isn't quite the same as an additional core, for many purposes it's about as good, and uses less power than an additional core, because very little additional circuitry is required for it.
It also can use DDR 3 rather than the power hungry FB-DIMMs.
thanks for the info.
so essentially there will be two mother board (design review as well) revision if apple adopts new CPUs now (now to sep) and again in Jan 09.
I didn't see pricing there, but prices have been posted on other sites.
Those prices are for bins of 1,000. Any company that buys more will get better pricing. If Apple buys 50,000 it will be much better. More than that, and it will be lower still. Apple could pay $600 for the chip.
So essentially there will be two mother board (design review as well) revision if apple adopts new CPUs now (now to sep) and again in Jan 09.
There are always MoBo tweaks, but in relation to the processor it depends on on the platform's socket. Both the Santa Rosa and Montevina platforms can use Socket P and Micro-FCBGA. Think Apple uses the latter but I'm not sure.
Using the release time frames of the Nehalem MA and Calpella platform as a guide I think they will be paired. as a previous poster stated. However, I can't find any info as to the socket type used for this chip, but I'm guessing it will be different.
There are always MoBo tweaks, but in relation to the processor it depends on on the platform's socket. Both the Santa Rosa and Montevina platforms can use Socket P and Micro-FCBGA. Think Apple uses the latter but I'm not sure.
Using the release time frames of the Nehalem MA and Calpella platform as a guide I think they will be paired. as a previous poster stated. However, I can't find any info as to the socket type used for this chip, but I'm guessing it will be different.
Montevina doesn't go away when Nelahem arrives, Nelahem replaces Penryn. It is confusing, as Intel uses complex codenames that are uncommon words to us. in the next year we are seeing two transitions happen.
The first is the Santa Rosa platform being replaced with the Montevina platform. The 'platform' includes the CPU, mainboard chipset and wireless network interface. The marketing of this has been called Centrino. Montevina is the 5th generation of the platform.
The next transition we will see is in the Penryn microarchitecture being replaced with the Nehelam microarchitecture. This refers to the CPU itself undergoing some major changes.
So with regards to Platform/Microarchitecture MBPs are using Santa Rosa/Penryn right now. Next they will use Montevina/Penryn will little chip-over-chip performance increase but will use a lot less power and some HW features like H.264 decoding will be included. After that we drop Penryn and move to Nelahem so we'll have Montevina/Nelahem arriving in 2009.
I hope that helps.
At last someone with brains around here. It's so embarrassing when AppleInsider completely screws up the use of the Intel codenames.
Montevina = platform NOT processor. ARGH!
Snow Leopard isn't due til June 2009 at the earliest. Why are all these people expecting it sooner???
Apple will pick up Nehalem shortly after Intel launch it to the mainstream starting in January 2009 - NOT June 2009. The first Nehalem processors are due at the end of THIS year.
Apple will pick up Nehalem shortly after Intel launch it to the mainstream starting in January 2009 - NOT June 2009. The first Nehalem processors are due at the end of THIS year.
Yes- high-performance desktop and server processors come by the end of this year, which means Mac Pro.
Mainstream parts, both desktop and mobile, are scheduled for later on 09.
At last someone with brains around here. It's so embarrassing when AppleInsider completely screws up the use of the Intel codenames.
Montevina = platform NOT processor. ARGH!
Snow Leopard isn't due til June 2009 at the earliest. Why are all these people expecting it sooner???
Apple will pick up Nehalem shortly after Intel launch it to the mainstream starting in January 2009 - NOT June 2009. The first Nehalem processors are due at the end of THIS year.
The first Nehalen cpu's are due in the forth quarter of THIS year. not first quarter NEXT year.
Unless Intel decides at the last minute to change that. The platform is running well right now, as we've seen by some independent testing of machines using them shows. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple gets first cut as they have with Intel's chips several times already. We might even see it in late third quarter.
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i could careless about the iphone it need alot of basic features for me to buy it. i am just wanting them to get he new computers out before colleges start there fall semster.
Just curious. Where are you from?
real Quad Core news
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http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/16/...rs-next-month/
before jump the gun, it will cost more than US $1K ... start your engines ...
I didn't see pricing there, but prices have been posted on other sites.
Those prices are for bins of 1,000. Any company that buys more will get better pricing. If Apple buys 50,000 it will be much better. More than that, and it will be lower still. Apple could pay $600 for the chip.
I wish they release before back to school, but from now to till sep, not much time there given there seems to problem with integrated graphics which puts brakes on mac book...
mel, is Nehalem will use same mother board as current (newer ones?)?
No. Nehalen is a break from the past. No FSB!!!
These chips now use integrated memory controllers like AMD. Therefore, entirely new mobo's are required.
This is all good. Less support chips mean less complexity. It also means much better memory access speeds. There will also be two threads per core. This will give 8 threads for a 4 core chip. While a thread isn't quite the same as an additional core, for many purposes it's about as good, and uses less power than an additional core, because very little additional circuitry is required for it.
It also can use DDR 3 rather than the power hungry FB-DIMMs.
No. Nehalen is a break from the past. No FSB!!!
These chips now use integrated memory controllers like AMD. Therefore, entirely new mobo's are required.
This is all good. Less support chips mean less complexity. It also means much better memory access speeds. There will also be two threads per core. This will give 8 threads for a 4 core chip. While a thread isn't quite the same as an additional core, for many purposes it's about as good, and uses less power than an additional core, because very little additional circuitry is required for it.
It also can use DDR 3 rather than the power hungry FB-DIMMs.
thanks for the info.
so essentially there will be two mother board (design review as well) revision if apple adopts new CPUs now (now to sep) and again in Jan 09.
I didn't see pricing there, but prices have been posted on other sites.
Those prices are for bins of 1,000. Any company that buys more will get better pricing. If Apple buys 50,000 it will be much better. More than that, and it will be lower still. Apple could pay $600 for the chip.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/2008...pcworld/148419
yep the company charges US$1390 for upgrading the CPU, it may not be the price set by intel, even then it is kinda of steep ...
So essentially there will be two mother board (design review as well) revision if apple adopts new CPUs now (now to sep) and again in Jan 09.
There are always MoBo tweaks, but in relation to the processor it depends on on the platform's socket. Both the Santa Rosa and Montevina platforms can use Socket P and Micro-FCBGA. Think Apple uses the latter but I'm not sure.
Using the release time frames of the Nehalem MA and Calpella platform as a guide I think they will be paired. as a previous poster stated. However, I can't find any info as to the socket type used for this chip, but I'm guessing it will be different.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/2008...pcworld/148419
yep the company charges US$1390 for upgrading the CPU, it may not be the price set by intel, even then it is kinda of steep ...
Steep is the word for it. I don't know how many units they intend to sell for that computer. Why spend so much to upgrade the cpu for such a machine?
Apple would put this into the top Mac Book Pro.
There are always MoBo tweaks, but in relation to the processor it depends on on the platform's socket. Both the Santa Rosa and Montevina platforms can use Socket P and Micro-FCBGA. Think Apple uses the latter but I'm not sure.
Using the release time frames of the Nehalem MA and Calpella platform as a guide I think they will be paired. as a previous poster stated. However, I can't find any info as to the socket type used for this chip, but I'm guessing it will be different.
It's totally different.
thanks for the info.
so essentially there will be two mother board (design review as well) revision if apple adopts new CPUs now (now to sep) and again in Jan 09.
The revision for Nehalem will come much later than January for mobile systems.
Montevina doesn't go away when Nelahem arrives, Nelahem replaces Penryn. It is confusing, as Intel uses complex codenames that are uncommon words to us. in the next year we are seeing two transitions happen.
The first is the Santa Rosa platform being replaced with the Montevina platform. The 'platform' includes the CPU, mainboard chipset and wireless network interface. The marketing of this has been called Centrino. Montevina is the 5th generation of the platform.The next transition we will see is in the Penryn microarchitecture being replaced with the Nehelam microarchitecture. This refers to the CPU itself undergoing some major changes.So with regards to Platform/Microarchitecture MBPs are using Santa Rosa/Penryn right now. Next they will use Montevina/Penryn will little chip-over-chip performance increase but will use a lot less power and some HW features like H.264 decoding will be included. After that we drop Penryn and move to Nelahem so we'll have Montevina/Nelahem arriving in 2009.
I hope that helps.
At last someone with brains around here. It's so embarrassing when AppleInsider completely screws up the use of the Intel codenames.
Montevina = platform NOT processor. ARGH!
Snow Leopard isn't due til June 2009 at the earliest. Why are all these people expecting it sooner???
Apple will pick up Nehalem shortly after Intel launch it to the mainstream starting in January 2009 - NOT June 2009. The first Nehalem processors are due at the end of THIS year.
Apple will pick up Nehalem shortly after Intel launch it to the mainstream starting in January 2009 - NOT June 2009. The first Nehalem processors are due at the end of THIS year.
Yes- high-performance desktop and server processors come by the end of this year, which means Mac Pro.
Mainstream parts, both desktop and mobile, are scheduled for later on 09.
At last someone with brains around here. It's so embarrassing when AppleInsider completely screws up the use of the Intel codenames.
Montevina = platform NOT processor. ARGH!
Snow Leopard isn't due til June 2009 at the earliest. Why are all these people expecting it sooner???
Apple will pick up Nehalem shortly after Intel launch it to the mainstream starting in January 2009 - NOT June 2009. The first Nehalem processors are due at the end of THIS year.
The first Nehalen cpu's are due in the forth quarter of THIS year. not first quarter NEXT year.
Unless Intel decides at the last minute to change that. The platform is running well right now, as we've seen by some independent testing of machines using them shows. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple gets first cut as they have with Intel's chips several times already. We might even see it in late third quarter.