Just like with Peta, I don't disagree with the message -- but the tactics are lame. What kind of jobless ass clown has the time to pester a poor Apple Genius, whose job it is to fix machines not defend Apple's strategy?
Warning: If I see you causing trouble at my favorite Apple Store, which is staffed by several personal friends of mine, I will tell mall security that you touched me inappropriately.
Ha! This will be a total burn on Apple when those Genius Bar employees can't answer their questions on Apple's DRM policies.
Yeah, right. Anyone with something that amounts to even one-eighth of a pea brain should be able to figure out that no one (not even a store manager) would be able to address any policy issue, let alone an issue which is beyond the scope of retail or warranty in any way. The media should report on the lack of reasoning skills demonstrated by these idiots whose motives are questionable and whose tactics make even Greenpeace look like laggards.
Now, if they want to go and demonstrate against the record labels and studios asking for a more rational approach to electronic distribution, more power to them. But demonstrating in ANY retail environment just makes them look incredibly stupid.
no longer syncing to mobile me. they need to fix that joke. really.
today, for now apparent reason, all my contacts became only numbers, all the names have vanished. LOL!
glad i'm only using this free 2 month trial period.
This is odd, it's clearly a syncing issue, but it may be an issue with the iPhone firmware.
If you go toe number pad of the iPhoen and type in the number of a contact the name and designation (mobile, home, etc.) will appear on the phone correctly, just not in the contacts.The first thought is that you've previously dialed that contact and it's pulling that data from a saved file, but it's not.
Now go to MM and change a phone number of a contact to something that isn't in your address book. Then go to your iPhone and type in that new number. The number will be associated with that name.
You can even create an all new contact in MM and dial that phone number almost instantly and have the name appear under the number you just dialed.
If you don't travel overseas, but you do travel a lot in North America, CDMA can have advantages over GSM.
With 3G GSM (UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA), you can still receive phone calls while using the data side of the service. With GSM EDGE and 3G CDMA (EVDO), incoming calls are blocked while using data. Advantage: GSM.
I would like to hearby announce the formation of the Locked, Safe, and Controlled software association. As our first offical activity, we will be handing out these flyers:
All who wish to participate, please find someone passing out the rival flyers, and give all of their readers one of these. Thank you.
I am pretty sure-though my evidence is anecdotal to be sure, that Apple's POS System certainly DOES NOT run on windows...
Not their full-sized computer/cash registers, but the handheld devices. They are by a company called Symbol that uses their POS system that uses WinCE as the underlying OS. I'm not sire of the actual model number.
Not their full-sized computer/cash registers, but the handheld PDAs wth CC swipes do run on WinCE.
Just because something says PocketPC does not mean it runs windows. Remember, by definition, macs are PCs too. What? Have I shocked all you all to peices?
It's a shame, because the only thing this wrong-headed "protest" can achieve is pitting proponents of DRM-free content against ordinary Apple clients. It's going to have no effect whatsoever on Apple. Genius Bar employees aren't there to debate, question, change or explain corporate policy, they're there to serve clients, and this action interferes with their ability to do that.
Furthermore, while annoying at times, Apple's DRM is the least restrictive that is commercially feasible (that the studios agree to). Those who are pushing for the elimination of DRM constantly claim that Apple is championing DRM and holding it up against DRM-free and open-source friendly competitors, when the truth is that those competitors are the studios' only chance to break the dominant position the iPod/iTunes ecosystem has in the market. If it were to succeed and the iTunes store closed, you'd see those stores switch to a new DRM-enabled platform in a hearbeat, probably one more restrictive than the one it replaced.
As such all this can achieve is making ordinary Apple customers less sympathetic to complaints about DRM, and encourage them to defend Apple's policies, so that these people will go away and they can get the support they are looking for from the Genius Bar staff.
No one ever accused the FSF's supporters of being particularly people-friendly, but this is beyond the pale, really. What's next, throwing red paint on people who use iPods?
Just because something says PocketPC does not mean it runs windows. Remember, by definition, macs are PCs too. What? Have I shocked all you all to peices?
So you think Apple bought these devices from Symbol, then ported their app to OS X iPhone and then installed it on the Symbol handheld and writing all necessary drivers just to have a device that doesn't look like an Apple product on it's HW or GUI, but has OS X running in the background instead of the well developed POS software that came with the device?
Edit 2: Do these protesters have jobs? What is this? A bunch of people who quit life to play WoW?
Do the people that stand in line for several hours to buy an iPhone have jobs?
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Originally Posted by sibelius
To those who protest: You do have THE RIGHT... the right to buy software from someone else. If you don't like how a company operates go elsewhere. Or better yet -- MAKE YOUR OWN!!! But you wont do that, will you. Why? Because it's easier to b*tch to someone else than to actually put any effort or risk into creating a solution that's right for you.
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Originally Posted by Wiggin
I don't know much about it, but isn't that the point of Android, that it's open source? If they want an open source cell phone, why don't they just use that?
There is OpenMoko too.
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Oh, right, they think they are "entitled" to Apple's hardware.
FSF is much more about software than hardware. Their ideal is that the software be open.
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Originally Posted by Samnuva
All who wish to participate, please find someone passing out the rival flyers, and give all of their readers one of these. Thank you.
The first and third "reason" are missing a period. The layout spacing is inconsistent and the last statement is cut off.
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Originally Posted by Enigmafan420
I am pretty sure-though my evidence is anecdotal to be sure, that Apple's POS System certainly DOES NOT run on windows...
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Originally Posted by solipsism
Not their full-sized computer/cash registers, but the handheld PDAs wth CC swipes do run on WinCE.
I thought they pretty much got rid of the cash registers. But the handhelds are there and are certainly some form of mobile windows.
I thought they pretty much got rid of the cash registers. But the handhelds are there and are certainly some form of mobile windows.
The store I last went to had at least one as I saw a cash transaction take place. It was up in the front and there were two iMacs up there so I assume there were two registers connected to them below.
Just because something says PocketPC does not mean it runs windows. Remember, by definition, macs are PCs too. What? Have I shocked all you all to peices?
What I'm saying about the whole PocketPC device is is that it is not neccesarily running a microsoft windows type OS. there are many other (and better, since we're talking about windows) OSs for those handheld thingymabobs, so I think it's bad to be calling it windows until no one has produced an image of one of these running it. It could, for all we know, be running a ported iPhone OS. Not very likely, but still, we don't know for sure.
[QUOTE=JeffDM;1285691]The first and third "reason" are missing a period. The layout spacing is inconsistent and the last statement is cut off./QUOTE]
I did that in 4 1/2 half minutes to make a point. If anybody actually feels like handing those out, I'll look over it with a scanning electron microscope, but for now, I think everybody gets the idea.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, what other OSes does Symbol use on their POS devices?
I wouldn't know, I'm just saying we shouldn't automatically say it's windows. It may very well be windows, as that makes the most sence, but I'm saying that it's not automatically windows, as someone here, I forget how far back, implied.
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Warning: If I see you causing trouble at my favorite Apple Store, which is staffed by several personal friends of mine, I will tell mall security that you touched me inappropriately.
Ha! This will be a total burn on Apple when those Genius Bar employees can't answer their questions on Apple's DRM policies.
Yeah, right. Anyone with something that amounts to even one-eighth of a pea brain should be able to figure out that no one (not even a store manager) would be able to address any policy issue, let alone an issue which is beyond the scope of retail or warranty in any way. The media should report on the lack of reasoning skills demonstrated by these idiots whose motives are questionable and whose tactics make even Greenpeace look like laggards.
Now, if they want to go and demonstrate against the record labels and studios asking for a more rational approach to electronic distribution, more power to them. But demonstrating in ANY retail environment just makes them look incredibly stupid.
no longer syncing to mobile me. they need to fix that joke. really.
today, for now apparent reason, all my contacts became only numbers, all the names have vanished. LOL!
glad i'm only using this free 2 month trial period.
This is odd, it's clearly a syncing issue, but it may be an issue with the iPhone firmware.
If you go toe number pad of the iPhoen and type in the number of a contact the name and designation (mobile, home, etc.) will appear on the phone correctly, just not in the contacts.The first thought is that you've previously dialed that contact and it's pulling that data from a saved file, but it's not.
Now go to MM and change a phone number of a contact to something that isn't in your address book. Then go to your iPhone and type in that new number. The number will be associated with that name.
You can even create an all new contact in MM and dial that phone number almost instantly and have the name appear under the number you just dialed.
Do you even know what you're trying to say?
I think he's equating Apple's lack of patronising collaboration & openness to that of the failed social doctrine.
McD
If you don't travel overseas, but you do travel a lot in North America, CDMA can have advantages over GSM.
With 3G GSM (UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA), you can still receive phone calls while using the data side of the service. With GSM EDGE and 3G CDMA (EVDO), incoming calls are blocked while using data. Advantage: GSM.
All who wish to participate, please find someone passing out the rival flyers, and give all of their readers one of these. Thank you.
These guys are a tiny, meaningless fringe, and the idea that they could "overwhelm Apple retail" is part PR blather, part freetard fantasy.
Coverage like this AppleInsider article is actually their goal - it's the best they can hope to accomplish.
We should just stop talking about them.
It was a smooth purchase at the Apple store using a Microsoft/Windows software based wireless ordering and credit card swiping device.
I am pretty sure-though my evidence is anecdotal to be sure, that Apple's POS System certainly DOES NOT run on windows...
I am pretty sure-though my evidence is anecdotal to be sure, that Apple's POS System certainly DOES NOT run on windows...
Not their full-sized computer/cash registers, but the handheld devices. They are by a company called Symbol that uses their POS system that uses WinCE as the underlying OS. I'm not sire of the actual model number.
It would be very easy to answer the questions. Just two words, "no comment".
Or one word... "Next!"
Not their full-sized computer/cash registers, but the handheld PDAs wth CC swipes do run on WinCE.
Just because something says PocketPC does not mean it runs windows. Remember, by definition, macs are PCs too. What? Have I shocked all you all to peices?
Furthermore, while annoying at times, Apple's DRM is the least restrictive that is commercially feasible (that the studios agree to). Those who are pushing for the elimination of DRM constantly claim that Apple is championing DRM and holding it up against DRM-free and open-source friendly competitors, when the truth is that those competitors are the studios' only chance to break the dominant position the iPod/iTunes ecosystem has in the market. If it were to succeed and the iTunes store closed, you'd see those stores switch to a new DRM-enabled platform in a hearbeat, probably one more restrictive than the one it replaced.
As such all this can achieve is making ordinary Apple customers less sympathetic to complaints about DRM, and encourage them to defend Apple's policies, so that these people will go away and they can get the support they are looking for from the Genius Bar staff.
No one ever accused the FSF's supporters of being particularly people-friendly, but this is beyond the pale, really. What's next, throwing red paint on people who use iPods?
Just because something says PocketPC does not mean it runs windows. Remember, by definition, macs are PCs too. What? Have I shocked all you all to peices?
So you think Apple bought these devices from Symbol, then ported their app to OS X iPhone and then installed it on the Symbol handheld and writing all necessary drivers just to have a device that doesn't look like an Apple product on it's HW or GUI, but has OS X running in the background instead of the well developed POS software that came with the device?
Edit 2: Do these protesters have jobs? What is this? A bunch of people who quit life to play WoW?
Do the people that stand in line for several hours to buy an iPhone have jobs?
To those who protest: You do have THE RIGHT... the right to buy software from someone else. If you don't like how a company operates go elsewhere. Or better yet -- MAKE YOUR OWN!!! But you wont do that, will you. Why? Because it's easier to b*tch to someone else than to actually put any effort or risk into creating a solution that's right for you.
I don't know much about it, but isn't that the point of Android, that it's open source? If they want an open source cell phone, why don't they just use that?
There is OpenMoko too.
Oh, right, they think they are "entitled" to Apple's hardware.
FSF is much more about software than hardware. Their ideal is that the software be open.
All who wish to participate, please find someone passing out the rival flyers, and give all of their readers one of these. Thank you.
The first and third "reason" are missing a period. The layout spacing is inconsistent and the last statement is cut off.
I am pretty sure-though my evidence is anecdotal to be sure, that Apple's POS System certainly DOES NOT run on windows...
Not their full-sized computer/cash registers, but the handheld PDAs wth CC swipes do run on WinCE.
I thought they pretty much got rid of the cash registers. But the handhelds are there and are certainly some form of mobile windows.
I thought they pretty much got rid of the cash registers. But the handhelds are there and are certainly some form of mobile windows.
The store I last went to had at least one as I saw a cash transaction take place. It was up in the front and there were two iMacs up there so I assume there were two registers connected to them below.
Just because something says PocketPC does not mean it runs windows. Remember, by definition, macs are PCs too. What? Have I shocked all you all to peices?
Yes, I'm shocked at the lameness of the argument.
there are many other (and better, since we're talking about windows) OSs for those handheld thingymabobs
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, what other OSes does Symbol use on their POS devices?
I did that in 4 1/2 half minutes to make a point. If anybody actually feels like handing those out, I'll look over it with a scanning electron microscope, but for now, I think everybody gets the idea.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, what other OSes does Symbol use on their POS devices?
I wouldn't know, I'm just saying we shouldn't automatically say it's windows. It may very well be windows, as that makes the most sence, but I'm saying that it's not automatically windows, as someone here, I forget how far back, implied.