Unfortunately, the current availability is less than 700movies
In the past month for example, less than 25 'new' movies (some film over 10 years ago but never released?and probably never should) have been released according to the Blu=Ray Association. Check that most of the 120 releases listed are music, TV series, documentaries, repacks of old movies, etc.
Incidentally, BlockBuster lists less than 80 movie titles released so far this year, and not all are NEW.
How many new movies do they release in a year? How many would sell enough to perform a run in Blu-Ray?
DVD is an old technology now, it is cheap to produce.
The number of blu-ray movies available is increasing, and will continue to increase
You're getting into the externals vs the internals. He was talking about the externals, which is what most of us are referring to when we talk about redesigns.
We had this debate on another thread a short while ago.
Well I think the majority of people would have a use for it, they would watch Blu-Ray movies on it, I know I would
You obviously don't talk to as many people as I do regarding technology. There are a fair number of reasonably smart people out in the world who think that Blu-Ray is a type of sunglasses, not the up-and-coming next generation of optical media. I have no doubt that the some of the savvy people here could and would use it if they had it on their computer, but the majority of people won't for the foreseeable future.
You obviously don't talk to as many people as I do regarding technology. There are a fair number of reasonably smart people out in the world who think that Blu-Ray is a type of sunglasses, not the up-and-coming next generation of optical media. I have no doubt that the some of the savvy people here could and would use it if they had it on their computer, but the majority of people won't for the foreseeable future.
Strange argument you are putting up there, but what you are saying is, because you talk to the people you talk to, you know better than anyone else...
It is a fact that blu-ray is far superior to any other available home video technology available, in both audio, and video.
DVD wasn't widespread for a long time, and only taken up up the 'savvy people' originally.
Emphasis mine: what special chip do you have in mind? And why it would be a disappointment to many? Adding a specialised chip is not the same kind of evolutionary upgrade like LCD --> LED display or DVD --> BD drive.
That one's not really my theory. Cringley's been going on forever about the possibility of Apple adding a dedicated H.264 chip that brings HD downloading (from the iTunes store) into the mainstream.
You stick to your 64GB $350.00 USB thumb drives and I'll continue with my 50GB for $20.00 Blu-Ray purchases thank you.
They sell thumb drives in the shape of sushi, lego, real thumbs, cars and other toys you know. Maybe you'll find those features worth the $350.00 price tag.
Have fun.
p.s. You also won't be able to create Blu-Ray HD media or "back up" Blu-Ray movies with your Lego or sushi shaped thumb drive. You will however be able to join and stack many Lego shaped thumb drives together as high as you like.
Although it doesn't look good from what I have read, I sure hope AMD has RV770-based (4000 series) mobile GPUs ready for the macbook Pro and iMac! Although Nvidia's G92/8800 series parts are good, especially for dual-booting Windows games, Nvidia's drivers on OSX are inferior to AMD. It would be great to see a 4850-derived product available on the iMac and MBPro!
I don't want to see ANY AMD products, other than GPU's, in an Apple product.
That's a company on the quick path to irrelevance in CPU's, and I hope Apple is smart enough to stay far away from it.
There's no point of having number pad on wireless keyboards. Its wireless for a reason not just to sit on a table. That's why there's wired version. Wireless size is perfect size that fits on your lab when you sit or lay, it would be too long for ergonomics.
I don't agree. For the increasing use of computers in the living room in A/V systems, with large screen 1920 x 1080p monitors, a small computer unit tucked away in the system with a wireless keyboard and mouse in your lap on the couch, or coffee table, is not much different from using the machine elsewhere. I have a Mini which I use to digitize my collection of LP's there. I use it for other purposes as well, as it's connected to my wired 1Gb Ethernet network.
I don't want a crippled product. I use the F19 key, for example, to switch to the full Spaces layout. The Enter key is also better at times than the return key, and the keypad is just easier at times than the numbers spaced out on top. I also use the other keys that are removed.
Less than 700 movies on Blu-Ray now and many you wouldn't watch.
I can't agree, we've already bought about 20. That number will only increase as time goes on. All new movies of any note are being released on BD. As time goes on, many more older ones will as well. We've bought two, and they are spectacular compared to the DVD versions.
There have been several news reports of how, despite the BD / HD-DVD war being over, BluRay disc player sales have not taken off as many expected.
The timing is unfortunate. We are in the middle of an economic slowdown. These types of products are being relegated to the back burners for many people right now. If we were in a period of growth, and this goes for the rest of the world as well, where in several places, such as Europe, where they are being hit hard by the slowdown, we would be seeing sales at much higher levels. I just saw an ad for a Sylvania BD player for two hundred something. By the holidays, people will begin buying again.
You obviously don't talk to as many people as I do regarding technology. There are a fair number of reasonably smart people out in the world who think that Blu-Ray is a type of sunglasses, not the up-and-coming next generation of optical media. I have no doubt that the some of the savvy people here could and would use it if they had it on their computer, but the majority of people won't for the foreseeable future.
You must not talk to as many people as I talk to about technology, because most of them who already have a large screen Tv, which are selling very well, are considering getting BD within a few months, most by the holiday season.
Many people outside of the technology sector I know, who can be expected to care less than those who are involved in it are also telling me that.
I've also been told from a friend who is in corporate management in BB that BD sales have been strong.
I've been told the same thing from an acquaintance in Disney.
You stick to your 64GB $350.00 USB thumb drives and I'll continue with my 50GB for $20.00 Blu-Ray purchases thank you.
They sell thumb drives in the shape of sushi, lego, real thumbs, cars and other toys you know. Maybe you'll find those features worth the $350.00 price tag.
Have fun.
p.s. You also won't be able to create Blu-Ray HD media or "back up" Blu-Ray movies with your Lego or sushi shaped thumb drive. You will however be able to join and stack many Lego shaped thumb drives together as high as you like.
while your hotheaded remark has succeeded in making you look like an idiot it wasn't very affective at proving your point... maybe you should try again??
Ug! God no. Why would you want blu-ray on ANY computer? It's locked down like a drum, is a power-hog, and stores less than a good-sized thumb drive.
I find your stance quite bizarre. Why would you not want a BD player in Apple hardware? It's the current state of the art in movie playback, absolutely nothing comes anywhere near it. (not since the death of HD DVD anyway) BD movies would look fantastic on the 24" iMac screen.
Plus BDs are a great backup format, VASTLY superior to any thumb drive on the planet in fact. Look at the price of a blank 25gb blu-ray.
Go away and watch Blade Runner on a 50 or 60" Pioneer plasma from a Blu-Ray then see how you feel about the format.
I don't understand the resistance to adding Blue-Ray optical drives in the next round of Mac updates.
It may be a bit 'high end' for entry level consumer focused machines like the mini and MB, but as others have stated, Blue Ray movie playback on a 24" iMac would probably be stunning. The lack of BR drives in the MBP and Mac Pro machines is starting to get embarrassing.
I know Apple would rather have me download my HD content, but I would like the availability of BR on my next machine. I think Apple would be wise to listen to its users in this regard as I suspect most would like that option as well.
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There have been several news reports of how, despite the BD / HD-DVD war being over, BluRay disc player sales have not taken off as many expected.
And there are several reports that they are doing better than expected
Who said they are stopped at 700?
Unfortunately, the current availability is less than 700 movies
In the past month for example, less than 25 'new' movies (some film over 10 years ago but never released?and probably never should) have been released according to the Blu=Ray Association. Check that most of the 120 releases listed are music, TV series, documentaries, repacks of old movies, etc.
Incidentally, BlockBuster lists less than 80 movie titles released so far this year, and not all are NEW.
How many new movies do they release in a year? How many would sell enough to perform a run in Blu-Ray?
DVD is an old technology now, it is cheap to produce.
The number of blu-ray movies available is increasing, and will continue to increase
You're getting into the externals vs the internals. He was talking about the externals, which is what most of us are referring to when we talk about redesigns.
We had this debate on another thread a short while ago.
Most head shaking, laugh inducing thread ever.
Flavor of the day? You must still use laserdisc instead of DVD.
No, just old enough to have been through a few of these "must have" technologies that are obsolete within a few years.
Well I think the majority of people would have a use for it, they would watch Blu-Ray movies on it, I know I would
You obviously don't talk to as many people as I do regarding technology. There are a fair number of reasonably smart people out in the world who think that Blu-Ray is a type of sunglasses, not the up-and-coming next generation of optical media. I have no doubt that the some of the savvy people here could and would use it if they had it on their computer, but the majority of people won't for the foreseeable future.
And there are several reports that they are doing better than expected
Just like the number of Vista licenses being sold is rising?
You obviously don't talk to as many people as I do regarding technology. There are a fair number of reasonably smart people out in the world who think that Blu-Ray is a type of sunglasses, not the up-and-coming next generation of optical media. I have no doubt that the some of the savvy people here could and would use it if they had it on their computer, but the majority of people won't for the foreseeable future.
Strange argument you are putting up there, but what you are saying is, because you talk to the people you talk to, you know better than anyone else...
It is a fact that blu-ray is far superior to any other available home video technology available, in both audio, and video.
DVD wasn't widespread for a long time, and only taken up up the 'savvy people' originally.
Just like the number of Vista licenses being sold is rising?
And the point of that comment is?
Emphasis mine: what special chip do you have in mind? And why it would be a disappointment to many? Adding a specialised chip is not the same kind of evolutionary upgrade like LCD --> LED display or DVD --> BD drive.
That one's not really my theory. Cringley's been going on forever about the possibility of Apple adding a dedicated H.264 chip that brings HD downloading (from the iTunes store) into the mainstream.
They sell thumb drives in the shape of sushi, lego, real thumbs, cars and other toys you know. Maybe you'll find those features worth the $350.00 price tag.
Have fun.
p.s. You also won't be able to create Blu-Ray HD media or "back up" Blu-Ray movies with your Lego or sushi shaped thumb drive. You will however be able to join and stack many Lego shaped thumb drives together as high as you like.
Although it doesn't look good from what I have read, I sure hope AMD has RV770-based (4000 series) mobile GPUs ready for the macbook Pro and iMac! Although Nvidia's G92/8800 series parts are good, especially for dual-booting Windows games, Nvidia's drivers on OSX are inferior to AMD. It would be great to see a 4850-derived product available on the iMac and MBPro!
I don't want to see ANY AMD products, other than GPU's, in an Apple product.
That's a company on the quick path to irrelevance in CPU's, and I hope Apple is smart enough to stay far away from it.
There's no point of having number pad on wireless keyboards. Its wireless for a reason not just to sit on a table. That's why there's wired version. Wireless size is perfect size that fits on your lab when you sit or lay, it would be too long for ergonomics.
I don't agree. For the increasing use of computers in the living room in A/V systems, with large screen 1920 x 1080p monitors, a small computer unit tucked away in the system with a wireless keyboard and mouse in your lap on the couch, or coffee table, is not much different from using the machine elsewhere. I have a Mini which I use to digitize my collection of LP's there. I use it for other purposes as well, as it's connected to my wired 1Gb Ethernet network.
I don't want a crippled product. I use the F19 key, for example, to switch to the full Spaces layout. The Enter key is also better at times than the return key, and the keypad is just easier at times than the numbers spaced out on top. I also use the other keys that are removed.
There should be both.
Less than 700 movies on Blu-Ray now and many you wouldn't watch.
I can't agree, we've already bought about 20. That number will only increase as time goes on. All new movies of any note are being released on BD. As time goes on, many more older ones will as well. We've bought two, and they are spectacular compared to the DVD versions.
There have been several news reports of how, despite the BD / HD-DVD war being over, BluRay disc player sales have not taken off as many expected.
The timing is unfortunate. We are in the middle of an economic slowdown. These types of products are being relegated to the back burners for many people right now. If we were in a period of growth, and this goes for the rest of the world as well, where in several places, such as Europe, where they are being hit hard by the slowdown, we would be seeing sales at much higher levels. I just saw an ad for a Sylvania BD player for two hundred something. By the holidays, people will begin buying again.
You obviously don't talk to as many people as I do regarding technology. There are a fair number of reasonably smart people out in the world who think that Blu-Ray is a type of sunglasses, not the up-and-coming next generation of optical media. I have no doubt that the some of the savvy people here could and would use it if they had it on their computer, but the majority of people won't for the foreseeable future.
You must not talk to as many people as I talk to about technology, because most of them who already have a large screen Tv, which are selling very well, are considering getting BD within a few months, most by the holiday season.
Many people outside of the technology sector I know, who can be expected to care less than those who are involved in it are also telling me that.
I've also been told from a friend who is in corporate management in BB that BD sales have been strong.
I've been told the same thing from an acquaintance in Disney.
And the point of that comment is?
He had no point.
You stick to your 64GB $350.00 USB thumb drives and I'll continue with my 50GB for $20.00 Blu-Ray purchases thank you.
They sell thumb drives in the shape of sushi, lego, real thumbs, cars and other toys you know. Maybe you'll find those features worth the $350.00 price tag.
Have fun.
p.s. You also won't be able to create Blu-Ray HD media or "back up" Blu-Ray movies with your Lego or sushi shaped thumb drive. You will however be able to join and stack many Lego shaped thumb drives together as high as you like.
while your hotheaded remark has succeeded in making you look like an idiot it wasn't very affective at proving your point... maybe you should try again??
Ug! God no. Why would you want blu-ray on ANY computer? It's locked down like a drum, is a power-hog, and stores less than a good-sized thumb drive.
I find your stance quite bizarre. Why would you not want a BD player in Apple hardware? It's the current state of the art in movie playback, absolutely nothing comes anywhere near it. (not since the death of HD DVD anyway) BD movies would look fantastic on the 24" iMac screen.
Plus BDs are a great backup format, VASTLY superior to any thumb drive on the planet in fact. Look at the price of a blank 25gb blu-ray.
Go away and watch Blade Runner on a 50 or 60" Pioneer plasma from a Blu-Ray then see how you feel about the format.
It may be a bit 'high end' for entry level consumer focused machines like the mini and MB, but as others have stated, Blue Ray movie playback on a 24" iMac would probably be stunning. The lack of BR drives in the MBP and Mac Pro machines is starting to get embarrassing.
I know Apple would rather have me download my HD content, but I would like the availability of BR on my next machine. I think Apple would be wise to listen to its users in this regard as I suspect most would like that option as well.
I need a new machine but at this point feel like I should wait for the next version.