Um... heh... you *do* realize that your 'original' Happy Mac wasn't introduced until what (help me out here folks) 1988? '89? The *really* old guard around here will recall that originally it was the Picasso Mac with 'Welcome to Macintosh'.
Sorry to burst your bubble like that, but the Happy Mac was a replacement for another *truly* original logo that no one thought could be replaced.
To all those that flamed me: In rebellion to my incendiary remarks, you justified my claims about being idiots! Isnt that great?!?!!
[quote] Your opinion is duly noted.
From Mr. Webster:
opinion: That which is opined; a notion or conviction founded on probable evidence; belief stronger than impression, less strong than positive knowledge;
Thank you for playing.<hr></blockquote>
Well, Im not done playing yet. Although what I wrote is an opinion, it is ALSO a rant. Just because an orange is orange doesnt mean it cant be rotund, either.
From Dr. Dictionary.com, Ph. Rant--To speak or write in a angry or violent manner; rave.
That sure does accurately describe my post, doesnt it?
MrBojanglez50: I realise that 6c111 had that 'mangled' Happy Face screen that said 'Hello'. I indicated so in my first post.
[quote] Um... heh... you *do* realize that your 'original' Happy Mac wasn't introduced until what (help me out here folks) 1988? '89? The *really* old guard around here will recall that originally it was the Picasso Mac with 'Welcome to Macintosh'.
Sorry to burst your bubble like that, but the Happy Mac was a replacement for another *truly* original logo that no one thought could be replaced.
The Happy Mac has been with us since the beginning. Dont believe me? Go start-up a 128k with System 1.0 on it. The Picasso Screen was the predecessor to the Mac OS start-up screen, not the Happy Mac.
None of you can tell me that there is nothing special, if not sacred, about using a Macintosh. Im assuming (most) of you choose to use Macintoshes over Windows or PPC Linux. Well people, heres a news flash: Most of the computing experience is in the GUI, and its what distinguishes Windows from Macintosh from Linux from IRIX from Solaris from OS/2. If things like the Happy Mac are/were taken away, then the essence of the Macintosh is taken away. After a certain point, it would make no difference whether one uses Windows or Linux or Macintosh. Yes, it isnt a 'huge deal that is going to affect the operation of the computer'. But it is a huge deal that will go to dilute everything that makes me a Mac-user.
Yeah, Ill use 10.2 and love it. But I dont have to and am not going to accept everything that Apple chooses to force-feed down my throat, with the Happy Mac being but one thing of many things I dis-like.
One person said I was a Mac-obsessed loser?!?!?! Take a real look, and one can see who the real slaves are.
Mac OS X
(Edit: OK . . . could maybe one of you brillant, wonderful individuals explain to me why my UBB quote code isnt working? I cant see what the problem is . . . I know Im not hallucinating, and I have quoted many times before of other forums just like that . . . Im really lost . . . meh . . . for now, I will take the member specification out of the UBB . . . )
(Edit #2: For all you idiots that are going to flame me for being an idiot and telling me that the quotes work, I just want to stress that the type of quotes I am talking about are the ones that specify the member from which the quote is from, expressed in UBB as:
<strong>The Happy Mac has been with us since the beginning. Dont believe me? Go start-up a 128k with System 1.0 on it. The Picasso Screen was the predecessor to the Mac OS start-up screen, not the Happy Mac.</strong><hr></blockquote>I am quite certain that this is correct. Yes, the Picasso Mac sat alongside the old "Welcome to Macintosh" text, but the original Happy Mac loaded even before that.
<strong>I am quite certain that this is correct. Yes, the Picasso Mac sat alongside the original "Welcome to Macintosh." text, but the original "box" Mac loaded even before that.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well poop. I don't recall the Happy Mac until later, but I could be wrong.
In any case, I don't think it's that big a deal. It's not part of the UI at all, it's just a splash screen logo. I can't imagine being upset about this any more than I could about Photoshop changing their splash screen. It's the UI elegance and functionality that counts... the rest is just eye candy.
Let's watch the tone in here though, okay? 'Loser', 'slave', etc... not kosher.
<strong>To all those that flamed me: In rebellion to my incendiary remarks, you justified my claims about being idiots! Isnt that great?!?!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
If this is how you're going to behave, then don't expect people to waste their time responding to your posts. I know I won't.
Wow, I didn't even realize I was responding to him. Like, duh. Thanks for pointing that out. I guess he wins and can be an asshole as much as he likes.
To all those that flamed me: In rebellion to my incendiary remarks, you justified my claims about being idiots! Isnt that great?!?!!
</strong><hr></blockquote>
I find it funny that you act as though you are exempt from idiot status. You my friend come here and claim that you are in the right by stating what you did in your 'rant'. You were in the right if it was your opinion. You were wrong if you wanted us to take this as if you were dictating what we should beleive.
Go ahead and email this to Apple or keep on with your rants but you're just going to make yourself look more and more like an ass. 17 posts and I already wish you banned, that's a hell of a way to set your profile.
Call me what you will but you're the one pissing and moaning.
What am I doing wrong with the quoting? Mods? People that know more than me about UBB code?
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: Mac OS X ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
it's not . instead put "Originally posted by [name]:" as the first line of the quote. then 'qb'. then after the real quote, do '/qb' and '/quote' (with single quotes replaced with appropriate brackets). try replying to some1, to see it generated.
You posted on a touchy subject. Some people around here act as though someone walked into the sanctuary and replaced all the Jesus statues with naked Charles Manson effigies. This ain't a religion, it's a frickin computer. Some of us havn't realized this yet.
The happy Mac face at boot up was very well part of the User Interface. You have to remind yourselves (I'm not aiming at anybody in particular) that back in the eighties, computers were a concept that not everybody just got the first time they've used one. To use an IBM PC or an IBM XT meant to sit in front of a monochrome, green on black text only display (which might sound very 'retro' now, even a bit 'matrixish', but it wasn't really cool, it sucked big time). You had to know 'commands' in order to make the computer do something, and it all felt really strange to many people.
When Macintosh came into play, the first time this new computer was turned on, a happy face was looking at the user saying 'Welcome to Macintosh!'. Everything about the Mac was inviting. Its size, its colour (which wasn't grey but beige), the sound the keys on the keyboard made when you were typing (same for the mouse button). It invited you to play with it, and it instantly congratulated you with a result. You could paint on it and print things out. You could also write on it and print it like it looked on screen (of course rather less than more thinking about this nowadays).
While using a 'Personal Computer' at that time (the word 'personal' meaning that you could actually put it onto a desk instead of devoting a whole room to it) sounded and felt like witchcraft (dark, uneasy feelings...) to many people, Apple was producing magic (warm, comforting).
This experience was what caught Mac users' attention at first, it's also what made them LOVE Macintosh. I know, I'm one of them.
So with the happy Mac face goes a part of our past. Sweet memories and everything.
It may not be the time any more. Maybe we don't need that kind of treatment any more. (Those who know their ways around computers, anyway.) Maybe a clean looking, stability-suggesting Apple logo grey on grey does more what new users need. But it's sad to see the happy Mac go, all the same.
It may seem unimportant to you, it changed the world for many a Macintosh owner.
I can live with it. My PowerBook needs a restart only when I want to install a security update, a new version of Mac OS X or iTunes (I don't get that, why again do I have to restart after installing iTunes?). So I wouldn't see the happy Macintosh face that often anyway. And it's still there at the lower left corner of my Dock. Maybe this is why I want to keep the Dock visible and big at all times.
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<strong>Also, the new updated happy mac in 6c111 WAS in 128 by 128 and it DID say hello under it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
image ?
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Um... heh... you *do* realize that your 'original' Happy Mac wasn't introduced until what (help me out here folks) 1988? '89? The *really* old guard around here will recall that originally it was the Picasso Mac with 'Welcome to Macintosh'.
Sorry to burst your bubble like that, but the Happy Mac was a replacement for another *truly* original logo that no one thought could be replaced.
Feh. Kids these days.
and so, in truly OS 10 style:
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The *really* old guard around here will recall that originally it was the Picasso Mac with 'Welcome to Macintosh'.</strong><hr></blockquote>
this one:
To all those that flamed me: In rebellion to my incendiary remarks, you justified my claims about being idiots! Isnt that great?!?!!
[quote] Your opinion is duly noted.
From Mr. Webster:
opinion: That which is opined; a notion or conviction founded on probable evidence; belief stronger than impression, less strong than positive knowledge;
Thank you for playing.<hr></blockquote>
Well, Im not done playing yet. Although what I wrote is an opinion, it is ALSO a rant. Just because an orange is orange doesnt mean it cant be rotund, either.
From Dr. Dictionary.com, Ph.
That sure does accurately describe my post, doesnt it?
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
MrBojanglez50: I realise that 6c111 had that 'mangled' Happy Face screen that said 'Hello'. I indicated so in my first post.
[quote] Um... heh... you *do* realize that your 'original' Happy Mac wasn't introduced until what (help me out here folks) 1988? '89? The *really* old guard around here will recall that originally it was the Picasso Mac with 'Welcome to Macintosh'.
Sorry to burst your bubble like that, but the Happy Mac was a replacement for another *truly* original logo that no one thought could be replaced.
Feh. Kids these days. <hr></blockquote>
Kids! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
The Happy Mac has been with us since the beginning. Dont believe me? Go start-up a 128k with System 1.0 on it. The Picasso Screen was the predecessor to the Mac OS start-up screen, not the Happy Mac.
None of you can tell me that there is nothing special, if not sacred, about using a Macintosh. Im assuming (most) of you choose to use Macintoshes over Windows or PPC Linux. Well people, heres a news flash: Most of the computing experience is in the GUI, and its what distinguishes Windows from Macintosh from Linux from IRIX from Solaris from OS/2. If things like the Happy Mac are/were taken away, then the essence of the Macintosh is taken away. After a certain point, it would make no difference whether one uses Windows or Linux or Macintosh. Yes, it isnt a 'huge deal that is going to affect the operation of the computer'. But it is a huge deal that will go to dilute everything that makes me a Mac-user.
Yeah, Ill use 10.2 and love it. But I dont have to and am not going to accept everything that Apple chooses to force-feed down my throat, with the Happy Mac being but one thing of many things I dis-like.
One person said I was a Mac-obsessed loser?!?!?! Take a real look, and one can see who the real slaves are.
Mac OS X
(Edit: OK . . . could maybe one of you brillant, wonderful individuals explain to me why my UBB quote code isnt working? I cant see what the problem is . . . I know Im not hallucinating, and I have quoted many times before of other forums just like that . . . Im really lost . . . meh . . . for now, I will take the member specification out of the UBB . . . )
(Edit #2: For all you idiots that are going to flame me for being an idiot and telling me that the quotes work, I just want to stress that the type of quotes I am talking about are the ones that specify the member from which the quote is from, expressed in UBB as:
BLAH!
Très bon !)
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: Mac OS X ]
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: Mac OS X ]</p>
<strong>The Happy Mac has been with us since the beginning. Dont believe me? Go start-up a 128k with System 1.0 on it. The Picasso Screen was the predecessor to the Mac OS start-up screen, not the Happy Mac.</strong><hr></blockquote>I am quite certain that this is correct. Yes, the Picasso Mac sat alongside the old "Welcome to Macintosh" text, but the original Happy Mac loaded even before that.
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: Brad ]</p>
<strong>I am quite certain that this is correct. Yes, the Picasso Mac sat alongside the original "Welcome to Macintosh." text, but the original "box" Mac loaded even before that.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well poop. I don't recall the Happy Mac until later, but I could be wrong.
In any case, I don't think it's that big a deal. It's not part of the UI at all, it's just a splash screen logo. I can't imagine being upset about this any more than I could about Photoshop changing their splash screen. It's the UI elegance and functionality that counts... the rest is just eye candy.
Let's watch the tone in here though, okay? 'Loser', 'slave', etc... not kosher.
<strong>To all those that flamed me: In rebellion to my incendiary remarks, you justified my claims about being idiots! Isnt that great?!?!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
If this is how you're going to behave, then don't expect people to waste their time responding to your posts. I know I won't.
What am I doing wrong with the quoting? Mods? People that know more than me about UBB code?
gshjlfhglsdhgsdlghilsd
that should work, shouldnt it!?!?!
(Edit: BuonRoto: Although I was a bit mean, I wasnt singling anyone out specifically. Dont contrast what I said and what 'those other people' said. )
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: Mac OS X ]</p>
<strong>
To all those that flamed me: In rebellion to my incendiary remarks, you justified my claims about being idiots! Isnt that great?!?!!
</strong><hr></blockquote>
I find it funny that you act as though you are exempt from idiot status. You my friend come here and claim that you are in the right by stating what you did in your 'rant'. You were in the right if it was your opinion. You were wrong if you wanted us to take this as if you were dictating what we should beleive.
Go ahead and email this to Apple or keep on with your rants but you're just going to make yourself look more and more like an ass. 17 posts and I already wish you banned, that's a hell of a way to set your profile.
Call me what you will but you're the one pissing and moaning.
Mac Guru
<strong>Ok . . . seriously, though:
What am I doing wrong with the quoting? Mods? People that know more than me about UBB code?
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: Mac OS X ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
it's not . instead put "Originally posted by [name]:" as the first line of the quote. then 'qb'. then after the real quote, do '/qb' and '/quote' (with single quotes replaced with appropriate brackets). try replying to some1, to see it generated.
[ 08-19-2002: Message edited by: thuh Freak ]</p>
[quote]<strong>"Originally posted by [Mac OS X]:"]hghghfg</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote][qb"Originally posted by [Mac OS X]:"]gfgdfgdfdfg[/qb]<hr></blockquote>
yeah . . . could you reiterate, s'il vous plaît ? It would be much appreciated.
And to Mac Guru: Well . . . I dont like you either. Lets leave it at that, eh? You are acting as if I personally insulted a family member.
[ 08-19-2002: Message edited by: Mac OS X ]</p>
Push it and it does all that fancy quoting for ya.
I know it's hard but the nice guys at infopop knew it was and put that there for ya.
<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
Mac Guru
Mac Guru
I'm about this close --> <-- to locking this mess. There is *some* good information here and that's why I'm leaving it open for now.
When Macintosh came into play, the first time this new computer was turned on, a happy face was looking at the user saying 'Welcome to Macintosh!'. Everything about the Mac was inviting. Its size, its colour (which wasn't grey but beige), the sound the keys on the keyboard made when you were typing (same for the mouse button). It invited you to play with it, and it instantly congratulated you with a result. You could paint on it and print things out. You could also write on it and print it like it looked on screen (of course rather less than more thinking about this nowadays).
While using a 'Personal Computer' at that time (the word 'personal' meaning that you could actually put it onto a desk instead of devoting a whole room to it) sounded and felt like witchcraft (dark, uneasy feelings...) to many people, Apple was producing magic (warm, comforting).
This experience was what caught Mac users' attention at first, it's also what made them LOVE Macintosh. I know, I'm one of them.
So with the happy Mac face goes a part of our past. Sweet memories and everything.
It may not be the time any more. Maybe we don't need that kind of treatment any more. (Those who know their ways around computers, anyway.) Maybe a clean looking, stability-suggesting Apple logo grey on grey does more what new users need. But it's sad to see the happy Mac go, all the same.
It may seem unimportant to you, it changed the world for many a Macintosh owner.
I can live with it. My PowerBook needs a restart only when I want to install a security update, a new version of Mac OS X or iTunes (I don't get that, why again do I have to restart after installing iTunes?). So I wouldn't see the happy Macintosh face that often anyway. And it's still there at the lower left corner of my Dock. Maybe this is why I want to keep the Dock visible and big at all times.