Wal-Mart next to carry Apple's iPhone - report

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  • Reply 21 of 113
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    <rant>



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    Originally Posted by Chris Cuilla View Post


    No they aren't. Through much greater retail and distribution efficiency, Wal-Mart has helped to lower prices for many people.



    Haven't really followed Walmart's at all, have you?



    At what price did Walmart achieve their growth and ability to deliver lower prices?

    By demanding their suppliers give them lower prices and also in many cases, demanding the supplier move their manufacturing to China.

    And the only way to lower prices (in many, many) is by the suppliers moving their manufacturing to China where they pay the workers 80 cents an hour to churn out 60 pairs of pants an hour.

    And guess who loses?

    - the american worker who gets put out of a job.

    - the towns who benefit from having those factories and jobs



    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/wmchina.html

    "For several years, Wal-Mart has been the single largest U.S. importer of Chinese consumer goods, surpassing the trade volume of entire countries, such as Germany and Russia"



    How do you feel about this statement? -> "Greed is good" - Gordon Gekko



    </rant>
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  • Reply 22 of 113
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    Haven't really followed Walmart's at all, have you?



    I have but, apparently, I've come to different conclusions than you.
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  • Reply 23 of 113
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Quote:
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    I have but, apparently, I've come to different conclusions than you.



    If the ends (lower prices to "Joe six pack") justifies the means ("Joe six pack" loses his job) you win.
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  • Reply 24 of 113
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    How do you feel about this statement? -> "Greed is good" - Gordon Gekko



    </rant>



    Greed untempered by fear is not.



    That's how I feel about that statement.
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  • Reply 25 of 113
    cameronjcameronj Posts: 2,357member
    Quote:
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    <rant>

    And guess who loses?

    - the american worker who gets put out of a job.

    - the towns who benefit from having those factories and jobs



    Yes, every American who shops at Wal Mart should have to pay higher prices so the guy in Ohio can make pants for Wal Mart for five times the price that someone else can. And the person in China, who is happy to work for 80 cents a day (which will raise his standard of living twofold and make him the richest member of his family) should go screw off.



    I'm sure glad people didn't feel that way back when America was the cheap labor for the rest of the world, which helped us generate the skills and economic wherewithal to become an economic power.



    We should just close up our borders to any trade that will result in someone having to improve themselves to get a new job. That way we can be sure the world will stay the same, as it is today, forever. That way everyone can earn a great wage, prices can rise quickly, and quality can fall. Great plan!
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  • Reply 26 of 113
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cameronj View Post


    I'm sure glad people didn't feel that way back when America was the cheap labor for the rest of the world



    When exactly was that?



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    which helped us generate the skills and economic wherewithal to become an economic power.



    By your logic, take away all those jobs and we lose the skills and economic wherewithal to be any econimc power.



    Quote:

    We should just close up our borders to any trade that will result in someone having to improve themselves to get a new job.



    Which jobs do you think they can get since all the jobs are moving overseas? Not everyone can be a CEO.



    Also keep in mind that "Joe six pack" is not be shopping at Walmart because he will become "Joseph wine drinker" because he "improved his skill set" and became a CEO.
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  • Reply 27 of 113
    cameronjcameronj Posts: 2,357member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post


    When exactly was that?



    If it didn't happen in your lifetime, it didn't happen?





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post


    Which jobs do you think they can get since all the jobs are moving overseas? Not everyone can be a CEO.



    Yeah I know, since the unemployment rate is 20%, right? Except the CEO jobs.



    "ALL THE JOBS ARE MOVING OVERSEAS"
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  • Reply 28 of 113
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cameronj View Post


    If it didn't happen in your lifetime, it didn't happen?



    Huh?

    I asked a question. When was America the cheap labor for the rest of the world?
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  • Reply 29 of 113
    they're gonna sell the jesus phone in hell?
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  • Reply 30 of 113
    cameronjcameronj Posts: 2,357member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post


    Huh?

    I asked a question. When was America the cheap labor for the rest of the world?



    You're not familiar with the state of the world before the industrial revolution?
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  • Reply 31 of 113
    Way to dilute the brand. Bad idea Apple
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  • Reply 32 of 113
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cameronj View Post


    You're not familiar with the state of the world before the industrial revolution?



    Sure. Since we had "cheap labor" for the rest of the world, what did we export?
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  • Reply 33 of 113
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    Originally Posted by adammull View Post


    Yes, Wal-Mart was one of the first. Capitalism is really the main cause. Do you supply anything to Wal-Mart, or do you just pretend to know what you are talking about?



    They are awful.



    Boy, you anti-Walmart crowd (please note the correct way to spell it now) sure are a hoot.



    Walmart has one mission, to offer products at the lowest price to consumers. They are fulfilling that mission and if anyone has reason to disagree with them, don't shop there.



    The fact that they are the world's largest retailer indicates they are doing something right. Smart businesses thrive and grow, dumb, unresponsive businesses do not.
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  • Reply 34 of 113
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    I'm so glad that all the Joe Six-packs and Mavericky hockey-moms will be sportin' iPhones down the road.



    As a stockholder, I certainly am glad for this.
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  • Reply 35 of 113
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    That's not the problem. Walmart is just plain tacky. Target would have been a better move.



    Just like Apple decided to not go with at&t because so many people "hate them", right?
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  • Reply 36 of 113
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post


    <rant>





    Haven't really followed Walmart's at all, have you?



    At what price did Walmart achieve their growth and ability to deliver lower prices?

    By demanding their suppliers give them lower prices and also in many cases, demanding the supplier move their manufacturing to China.

    And the only way to lower prices (in many, many) is by the suppliers moving their manufacturing to China where they pay the workers 80 cents an hour to churn out 60 pairs of pants an hour.

    And guess who loses?

    - the american worker who gets put out of a job.

    - the towns who benefit from having those factories and jobs



    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/wmchina.html

    "For several years, Wal-Mart has been the single largest U.S. importer of Chinese consumer goods, surpassing the trade volume of entire countries, such as Germany and Russia"



    How do you feel about this statement? -> "Greed is good" - Gordon Gekko



    </rant>



    So, you'd rather pay for inefficient companies with more expensive products. Go ahead, be my guest.
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  • Reply 37 of 113
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post


    Also keep in mind that "Joe six pack" is not be shopping at Walmart because he will become "Joseph wine drinker" because he "improved his skill set" and became a CEO.



    When's the last time you set foot in a Walmart? People from every economic bracket shop there. People who are smart about how much money they spend in a tight economy in particular.
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  • Reply 38 of 113
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    Originally Posted by mariofreak85 View Post


    they're gonna sell the jesus phone in hell?



    Yes, and they're going to sell the hell out of it.
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  • Reply 39 of 113
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    ....anti-Walmart crowd (please note the correct way to spell it now) ....



    If you want to get really technical about it, the correct way to spell it is 'Wal*Mart' or 'Wal-Mart,' not 'Walmart.' (See their corporate website).
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  • Reply 40 of 113
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    If you want to get really technical about it, the correct way to spell it is 'Wal*Mart' or 'Wal-Mart,' not 'Walmart.' (See their corporate website).



    I always thought it was Wal•Mart.



    PS: Wal•Mart sells iPods (and Zunes) despite having the worst display setup I've seen, and I've seen iPods for sale in 2nd- and 3rd-world (ie, non-industrialized) countries.



    But does Wal•Mart have an AT&T phone activation center in their stores? If so, I haven't seen it.
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