I don't think the AppleTV is a lemon. I bought one for my girlfriend and she really likes it. She can listen to her iTunes music, rent movies online (which will be *really* great during the cold winter, so she won't have to go outside or even out of bed to rent a movie), and browse YouTube clips and Podcasts.
There are several things that it needs to add however:
1) More movies that you can rent. There are far too many movies that you can only buy.
2) More content altogether.
3) A better remote. Entering text on that thing is really painful. Hopefully they can add a scaled-down version of the iTouch as a more sophisticated remote.
4) News and weather applications, as well as other simple applications.
5) An SDK for third party developers to create software.
6) Bigger harddrive. 40 Gb on the basic model is really not much.
You forgot the most important:
1.) Search you own music files- it should be easier than using your computer's iTunes not harder.
A Mac Mini is a much better purchase- it does all of the above plus more with a DVD drive.
But that doesn't actually change the fact that they will be out of business soon however.
The case is a slam dunk, Psystar's argument is no doubt an interesting exercise for their lawyer, but the odd's of them winning it are many thousands to one (at best) and everyone knows it.
Well, the interesting thing about the lawsuit is that....because the part that psystar is violating is the "License" that comes with the purchase of OS X, this may be hard to prove in court in mediation. so we don't know legally how it will pan out.
fact is that it is possible to install mac osx on many computers, there is widely known hacks now.
apple would be better served by introducing a mid range tower. and blu-ray finally. with compatible video monitors.
i would prefer to buy apple products, but if they are going to refuse to offer what i would like to buy... then i may have to look to Psystar.
Psystar president Rudy Pedraza used the release to publicly criticize Apple for delaying support for Blu-ray, noting that chief executive Steve Jobs recently categorized the technology as "a bag of hurt" for consumers.
"Blu-ray has already won the format war. Not only is there fully functional and mature support for Blu-ray in other operating systems but you can now rent Blu-ray discs from almost any rental chain," he said. "Blu-ray has become pervasive technology that is being widely adopted by consumers everywhere," says Pedraza."
Pedraza to Apple: "hurry up and update your OS for Blu-ray playback, so I can make
i'm totally ignorant to the alleged laws being errr "broken"
No "errr" about it. The law being broken is in the area of copyright. Without a license allowing it, it is illegal for anyone but the copyright holder (Apple) to copy Apple's software onto a non-Apple computer. I believe Apple is also pursuing Trademark issues against Psystar.
By the way, ignorantia juris non excusat... ignorance of the law excuses no one.
Psystar should make the Mac tablet that so many people are clamoring for. If Apple refuses to address the market, it's an opening for them. Of course, the hard part would be getting MultiTouch to work on it. I doubt they have the hardware to emulate Apple's MultiTouch controller and even if they did, it would be extremely difficult to make it a MultiTouch touchscreen.
I'm definitely looking forward to Psystar releasing a compact mac laptop, something in the 10"-12" range. It'll be interesting to see what kind of overall design they go with and what the price differential will be.
They'll just buy a shitload of msi winds and paint (or sticker) over the msi logo.
i would prefer to buy apple products, but if they are going to refuse to offer what i would like to buy... then i may have to look to Psystar.
However, buying from Psystar can only lead to bad things. In the end, Apple will win, and you will most likely end up with a $600 brick sitting on your desk.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that it is illegal for them to us Apple's products and logos to market their computers without their consent.
I heard a nearly perfect solution a while back on these boards, that Apple should sell 10.5 --> 10.6 "upgrades" for $129, and then sell a "Full copy" of Mac OS X for alot more ($600 or something ridiculous like that). Anyone who already bought a Mac from Apple would automatically qualify for the $129 version, but to but the OS to put it on another computer, people would have to shell out alot more. That way, Psystar, and other companies like them, would have no incentive to legally sell their computers, because they'd be spending enough on the OS to balance out any other pricing advantage they have.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for other companies producing computers with OS-X on them, but Psystar is demonstrating the worst possible way to do this. Apple could allow other companies to work closely with them to produce computers, but it's still not a good idea for the company business-wise.
Apple is a hardware company, and they make their money from selling the hardware, not the OS. In that respect, apple will never allow clones of any kind, and they will not allow companies of Psystar's nature to exist.
I'm definitely looking forward to Psystar releasing a compact mac laptop, something in the 10"-12" range. It'll be interesting to see what kind of overall design they go with and what the price differential will be.
Erm it will be a piece of crap like how the company is a piece of crap. I expect the quality to be much worse then Dell.
They will go for the cheapest and lowest and crappiest quality design.
I like some poster said, if Psycrap is that great and complaining about Apple OS being restrictive and all, why don't make your own OS that COPIES OSX and sells them, then you will be announced and known as the OS X alternative, rather then taking peoples work and saying that they are being anti-competitive.
Well, the interesting thing about the lawsuit is that....because the part that psystar is violating is the "License" that comes with the purchase of OS X, this may be hard to prove in court in mediation. so we don't know legally how it will pan out.
fact is that it is possible to install mac osx on many computers, there is widely known hacks now.
apple would be better served by introducing a mid range tower. and blu-ray finally. with compatible video monitors.
i would prefer to buy apple products, but if they are going to refuse to offer what i would like to buy... then i may have to look to Psystar.
Psystar doesn't even have a disclaimer about the copyrighted Apple images they use.
They are asking for severe pwing and they will get it.
Seriously, does anybody know if people have bought this product? Who would be that stupid?
Yes. And they're not stupid to have spent significantly less than a comparable Apple-branded computer with the same parts. Sorry, but you're stupid if you buy an Apple-branded case when you can get the same/better specs for cheaper than the Apple price.
I hope Psystar wins. Apple needs competition within the hardware arena so customers don't get gouged with Apple's excessive prices for its hardware.
[QUOTE=otwayross;1332323but can you please explain why (if it was so obviously a slam dunk) Apple went into mediation and didn't just take them to the cleaners ? \[/QUOTE]
Yes. And they're not stupid to have spent significantly less than a comparable Apple-branded computer with the same parts. Sorry, but you're stupid if you buy an Apple-branded case when you can get the same/better specs for cheaper than the Apple price.
I hope Psystar wins. Apple needs competition within the hardware arena so customers don't get gouged with Apple's excessive prices for its hardware.
You are taking it too personal dude, I guess you was one of those who bought a Psycrap machine.
I just hope you never get ripped/stole even when you think that steal is alright.
You are taking it too personal dude, I guess you was one of those who bought a Psycrap machine.
I just hope you never get ripped/stole even when you think that steal is alright.
Nope, haven't bought one.
Can you explain how, in reality, purchasing your own hardware legally is considered stealing? And, can you describe, in the RDF, what it looks like to steal hardware that you purchased legally?
Can you explain how, in reality, purchasing your own hardware legally is considered stealing? And, can you describe, in the RDF, what it looks like to steal hardware that you purchased legally?
It isn't the hardware that's stolen, it's the software.
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I don't think the AppleTV is a lemon. I bought one for my girlfriend and she really likes it. She can listen to her iTunes music, rent movies online (which will be *really* great during the cold winter, so she won't have to go outside or even out of bed to rent a movie), and browse YouTube clips and Podcasts.
There are several things that it needs to add however:
1) More movies that you can rent. There are far too many movies that you can only buy.
2) More content altogether.
3) A better remote. Entering text on that thing is really painful. Hopefully they can add a scaled-down version of the iTouch as a more sophisticated remote.
4) News and weather applications, as well as other simple applications.
5) An SDK for third party developers to create software.
6) Bigger harddrive. 40 Gb on the basic model is really not much.
You forgot the most important:
1.) Search you own music files- it should be easier than using your computer's iTunes not harder.
A Mac Mini is a much better purchase- it does all of the above plus more with a DVD drive.
But again- what are the figures for Apple TV?
But that doesn't actually change the fact that they will be out of business soon however.
The case is a slam dunk, Psystar's argument is no doubt an interesting exercise for their lawyer, but the odd's of them winning it are many thousands to one (at best) and everyone knows it.
Well, the interesting thing about the lawsuit is that....because the part that psystar is violating is the "License" that comes with the purchase of OS X, this may be hard to prove in court in mediation. so we don't know legally how it will pan out.
fact is that it is possible to install mac osx on many computers, there is widely known hacks now.
apple would be better served by introducing a mid range tower. and blu-ray finally. with compatible video monitors.
i would prefer to buy apple products, but if they are going to refuse to offer what i would like to buy... then i may have to look to Psystar.
NO Firewire, NO purchase!
Psystar president Rudy Pedraza used the release to publicly criticize Apple for delaying support for Blu-ray, noting that chief executive Steve Jobs recently categorized the technology as "a bag of hurt" for consumers.
"Blu-ray has already won the format war. Not only is there fully functional and mature support for Blu-ray in other operating systems but you can now rent Blu-ray discs from almost any rental chain," he said. "Blu-ray has become pervasive technology that is being widely adopted by consumers everywhere," says Pedraza."
Pedraza to Apple: "hurry up and update your OS for Blu-ray playback, so I can make
more money selling it without your authorization"
MacBook Air?????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO Firewire, NO purchase!
Who cares if you buy it.
Go away kid... you bother me.
i'm totally ignorant to the alleged laws being errr "broken"
No "errr" about it. The law being broken is in the area of copyright. Without a license allowing it, it is illegal for anyone but the copyright holder (Apple) to copy Apple's software onto a non-Apple computer. I believe Apple is also pursuing Trademark issues against Psystar.
By the way, ignorantia juris non excusat... ignorance of the law excuses no one.
Psystar should make the Mac tablet that so many people are clamoring for.
That's a bit much, when installing a Blu-ray drive (that still won't play HDCP Blu-ray movies) is about the extent of Psystar's abilities.
I'm definitely looking forward to Psystar releasing a compact mac laptop, something in the 10"-12" range. It'll be interesting to see what kind of overall design they go with and what the price differential will be.
They'll just buy a shitload of msi winds and paint (or sticker) over the msi logo.
i would prefer to buy apple products, but if they are going to refuse to offer what i would like to buy... then i may have to look to Psystar.
However, buying from Psystar can only lead to bad things. In the end, Apple will win, and you will most likely end up with a $600 brick sitting on your desk.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that it is illegal for them to us Apple's products and logos to market their computers without their consent.
I heard a nearly perfect solution a while back on these boards, that Apple should sell 10.5 --> 10.6 "upgrades" for $129, and then sell a "Full copy" of Mac OS X for alot more ($600 or something ridiculous like that). Anyone who already bought a Mac from Apple would automatically qualify for the $129 version, but to but the OS to put it on another computer, people would have to shell out alot more. That way, Psystar, and other companies like them, would have no incentive to legally sell their computers, because they'd be spending enough on the OS to balance out any other pricing advantage they have.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for other companies producing computers with OS-X on them, but Psystar is demonstrating the worst possible way to do this. Apple could allow other companies to work closely with them to produce computers, but it's still not a good idea for the company business-wise.
Apple is a hardware company, and they make their money from selling the hardware, not the OS. In that respect, apple will never allow clones of any kind, and they will not allow companies of Psystar's nature to exist.
I'm definitely looking forward to Psystar releasing a compact mac laptop, something in the 10"-12" range. It'll be interesting to see what kind of overall design they go with and what the price differential will be.
Erm it will be a piece of crap like how the company is a piece of crap. I expect the quality to be much worse then Dell.
They will go for the cheapest and lowest and crappiest quality design.
I like some poster said, if Psycrap is that great and complaining about Apple OS being restrictive and all, why don't make your own OS that COPIES OSX and sells them, then you will be announced and known as the OS X alternative, rather then taking peoples work and saying that they are being anti-competitive.
Well, the interesting thing about the lawsuit is that....because the part that psystar is violating is the "License" that comes with the purchase of OS X, this may be hard to prove in court in mediation. so we don't know legally how it will pan out.
fact is that it is possible to install mac osx on many computers, there is widely known hacks now.
apple would be better served by introducing a mid range tower. and blu-ray finally. with compatible video monitors.
i would prefer to buy apple products, but if they are going to refuse to offer what i would like to buy... then i may have to look to Psystar.
Psystar doesn't even have a disclaimer about the copyrighted Apple images they use.
They are asking for severe pwing and they will get it.
Seriously, does anybody know if people have bought this product? Who would be that stupid?
Yes. And they're not stupid to have spent significantly less than a comparable Apple-branded computer with the same parts. Sorry, but you're stupid if you buy an Apple-branded case when you can get the same/better specs for cheaper than the Apple price.
I hope Psystar wins. Apple needs competition within the hardware arena so customers don't get gouged with Apple's excessive prices for its hardware.
How about ... err ... the Judge ordered it?
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?s...81019133549359
Sorry, but you're stupid if you buy an Apple-branded case when you can get the same/better specs for cheaper than the Apple price.
Thanks for the laugh.
i'm totally ignorant to the alleged laws being errr "broken"
but can you please explain why (if it was so obviously a slam dunk)
Apple went into mediation and didn't just take them to the cleaners ?
Yes. And they're not stupid to have spent significantly less than a comparable Apple-branded computer with the same parts. Sorry, but you're stupid if you buy an Apple-branded case when you can get the same/better specs for cheaper than the Apple price.
I hope Psystar wins. Apple needs competition within the hardware arena so customers don't get gouged with Apple's excessive prices for its hardware.
You are taking it too personal dude, I guess you was one of those who bought a Psycrap machine.
I just hope you never get ripped/stole even when you think that steal is alright.
Thanks for the laugh.
Yeah I thought it was funny too. I guess it's hard to put a price on having a silver plastic Apple on a computer case.
You are taking it too personal dude, I guess you was one of those who bought a Psycrap machine.
I just hope you never get ripped/stole even when you think that steal is alright.
Nope, haven't bought one.
Can you explain how, in reality, purchasing your own hardware legally is considered stealing? And, can you describe, in the RDF, what it looks like to steal hardware that you purchased legally?
Nope, haven't bought one.
Can you explain how, in reality, purchasing your own hardware legally is considered stealing? And, can you describe, in the RDF, what it looks like to steal hardware that you purchased legally?
It isn't the hardware that's stolen, it's the software.
Buy a clue, they aren't that hard to get.