No need. You just didn't know about the 'back room' conniving.
Maybe I can recant my precious post. Even if these are overclocked Penryns they still ahve several aspects of Montevina with the FSB, L2 and the faster RAM. We'll just have to wait for Anand or Tom to tear into them.
I expect to see preliminary speed tests from MacWorld tomorrow. The bump from 2.0 to 2.4GHz for the base model?as well as the other features?should show a very increase in performance.
While the mainstream chips 2.4 and 2.66 GHz versions are rated at a TDP of 25 watts, the 2.8 GHz (T9600) model runs at a 35 watt TDP and this special 3.06 GHz SKU at 55 watts.
Does 55 watts bother anyone in the 3.06 chip? Will it be noisy in your opinion? HOw much of a jump from 2.8 GHZ to 3.06 GHZ are you getting?
Interesting comment from seemingly knowledgeable Edgadget poster:
"Montevina" (35/45 series northbridges) is the name of the platform that suceeds to the "Santa Rosa" (965 northbridge), NOT the processor.
In fact, both the "Santa Rosa" and "Montevina" can use either the refreshed 800MHz FSB "Merom" (65nm) or "Penryn" (45nm) Core 2's -as long as they are Socket P compatible-.
The "Montevina" brings mostly a official 1066MHz FSB and lower-voltage DDR3 (1.5v, instead of DDR2's 1.8v) options, but the former already exists unofficially in Santa Rosa, and the CPU's of each platform should be interchangeable pending BIOS/EFI updates -same socket/pin layout, as i said above-.
This is further complicated by the fact that both "Santa Rosa" and "Montevina" chipsets can decrease their FSB's clockspeeds independently from the CPU core clockspeed, pending bandwidth utilization patterns. That's why a Core 2 "Santa Rosa"-based CPU can be used at full speed while its FSB may run at just 400MHz, instead of the 800MHz standard speed.
DDR3-1333 will only improve integrated graphics (an area where clocks, not access latency, play a key role) performance and slightly lower the overall power consumption. Due to increased latencies of the DDR3 technology, you'll be hard pressed to find anything else running faster versus the bog-standard DDR2-667.
So, in short, future "Montevina"-based iMac's/Macbook's/Macbook Pro's will use basically the same CPU's as the "Santa Rosa" platform refresh currently shipping with "Penryn" 45nm Core 2's. The extra 266MHz for the FSB are therefore perfectly negligible in the performance department compared to any recent "Santa Rosa"-based 45nm Core 2 "Penryn". Only a hypothetical mobile quad-core CPU would benefit from it under certain conditions, but the "Penryn" model they've announced for this iMac isn't one, so...
Sorry for the somewhat lengthy post, but it'll be useful if it avoids any upgrade-rush mistakes for many ill-informed or confused buyers out there.
Intel's northbridges are very, very tolerant of overclocking; gamers can regularly get FSB speeds of 450MHz (that would be 1800MHz QDR) or more on the desktop variants. It's entirely possible that Apple is just doing that to the GM965; 266MHz (1066 QDR) shouldn't even give it a workout.
Anyway, once someone gets their hands on one of the new iMacs and installs Windows on it, we'll have all sorts of info on the chipsets it uses.
Apple is an American company doing business in a foreign country. As such, it is subject to foreign commercial and consumer laws, taxes and business/social issues that add to the general cost of goods and the difference is passed on to the foreign consumer.
Which is quite contrary to the practice of non-American companies which usually cut prices of exports to enter and expand into foreign markets. I think it is a matter of perspective. Americans see themselves, like the Ancient Chinese, as the Middle Kingdom and everyone else has got it wrong. If they insist in their wicked practices they should be made to pay for them.
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For every Mac that Apple brings into the US from China for example, is subject to US importation costs, which on a unit bases, is significantly less than what is alloted to each Mac sold in Australia. The same for overhead, marketing and general legal (corporate) costs are significantly lower per unit in the US, but they are added necessities in foreign operations.
As such, doing business in another country has an added cost. True, the more the merrier and its additional sales do in fact drive overall production costs down. However, shipping a Mac from China to Australia will cost more per unit than shipping the same Mac to California.
Despite the shorter distance to Australia, and once it has arrived at one of the major Australian cities (we are highly urbanised) it is substantially arrived at its market. Meanwhile in the USA it has merely reached California and has a another 4000km or more to go.
There is the factor that in Australia we do not have an illegal migrant or black underclass to exploit and we pay most everyone a living wage. This means luxury products like Macs are not being subsidised by the poor workers low wages, or by foreign consumers (because we are the foreign consumers).
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By the way, don't tell an Aussie that we speak English. Although I would think that they also would agree that they don't as well. For sure, the Brits or the Canadians would argue on whether Americans speak English. But even the Canadians would say that they are the only English speaking people that every other so called English speaking person in the world can understand. In any event, those little nuances between American English and Australian has a cost, albeit small, but one of those things that just adds up and up.
How egocentric! Just because Americans have trouble adjusting to anyone else's differences you think you represent a standard in English usage! A standard judging by this and other forums that hasn't a clue as to spelling, grammar or the meanings of most words. Don't get me started on the misuse of common words, scientific terms and prepositions! I suppose the 95% of the world who use metric measures are adding to the costs to support both the Imperial & metric systems, not the USA causing the problem through intransigence.
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Big landed cost in Australia is for shipping. Nearly twice as much than in the US. For example, free shipping in US, Canada and Australia is free over $50, $75 and $90 respectively. Obviously volume/mile delivered is the key factor.
More likely an underpaid transport workforce along with suppressed fuel pricing keeps costs down in the States.
Australia does however suffer more than most because of the internal tyranny of distance. Our population whilst highly concentrated in the major cities, still is distributed on the edges of a land mass about the same size as the mainland USA.
I have also noted the American practice of finding the most costly and inefficient method of despatch which is all loaded into the price. My sister-in-law tells me the postal service is only used as a last resort in the States whereas here it works well and cheaply. We just can't get you to do the right thing and use it. Amazon prices itself out of my market by using FedEx. If they'd only post the damn goods I'd shop there all the time.
You're really doing it LBB? I never thought I'd see the day! If so, congratulations
...m'yeh.
As opposed to waiting another 9 months+ for Apple to do Nehalem 0cto-core with a next gen card.
It'll do the job. I made a list of all the things I need to do now. The iMac ticks all the boxes. So, no argument. It's not a octo-3d powerhouse. But with a GS and a dual 3 gigger. Respectable. 'Adequate'. As such it's a stop gap machine. But a very nice one at that...
I'll let you guys know how it runs when I get it...
Wow. 300 bucks to upgrade from 2 to 4 GB of memory is 200 bucks more expensive than it should be. I just replaced a 1GB DIMM with 2GB from Trans International and it cost all of $42 so replacing 2 would cost $84. Why does apple charge $216 more than Trans? Thats a 257% markup!
I really dislike the glossy screen, and someone who bought one a year ago really dislikes it too. I would pay extra for the non-glossy option as a build-to-order.
As opposed to waiting another 9 months+ for Apple to do Nehalem 0cto-core with a next gen card.
It'll do the job. I made a list of all the things I need to do now. The iMac ticks all the boxes. So, no argument. It's not a octo-3d powerhouse. But with a GS and a dual 3 gigger. Respectable. 'Adequate'. As such it's a stop gap machine. But a very nice one at that...
I'll let you guys know how it runs when I get it...
Lemon Bon Bon.
Outstanding! I want a thread with unboxing porn and everything.
Which is quite contrary to the practice of non-American companies which usually cut prices of exports to enter and expand into foreign markets. I think it is a matter of perspective. Americans see themselves, like the Ancient Chinese, as the Middle Kingdom and everyone else has got it wrong. If they insist in their wicked practices they should be made to pay for them.
Not usual. There are anti-dumping laws that prevent it.
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Despite the shorter distance to Australia, and once it has arrived at one of the major Australian cities (we are highly urbanised) it is substantially arrived at its market. Meanwhile in the USA it has merely reached California and has a another 4000km or more to go.
Only 400 km difference between Beijing-Sydney and Beijing-San Francisco. Point is Apple ships a 100,000 Macs to San Francisco and maybe 5,000 Beijing to Sydney at a time. Significant difference in cost per unit in shipping costs. Once landed, Apple's deals for UPS/FedeX land costs are significantly lower because of the yearly volume.
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There is the factor that in Australia we do not have an illegal migrant or black underclass to exploit and we pay most everyone a living wage. This means luxury products like Macs are not being subsidised by the poor workers low wages, or by foreign consumers (because we are the foreign consumers).
Way out of line. Sure you didn't mean to add this.
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How egocentric! Just because Americans have trouble adjusting to anyone else's differences you think you represent a standard in English usage! A standard judging by this and other forums that hasn't a clue as to spelling, grammar or the meanings of most words. Don't get me started on the misuse of common words, scientific terms and prepositions! I suppose the 95% of the world who use metric measures are adding to the costs to support both the Imperial & metric systems, not the USA causing the problem through intransigence.
My point (as well) was that Apple like any other self-respecting company entering a foreign country has to provide materials, particularly re communication, in a form that is representative of the land in which they are doing business. Although the Australian web site is probably built in the US along with or in concert with every other foreign site, there are costs differentials which are charged ex-country accordingly. Probably exceptionally small, but they add up.
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More likely an underpaid transport workforce along with suppressed fuel pricing keeps costs down in the States.
Volume. Tax structures. Population.
Underpaid transport workforce? You won't find much support from the average consumer here.
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Australia does however suffer more than most because of the internal tyranny of distance. Our population whilst highly concentrated in the major cities, still is distributed on the edges of a land mass about the same size as the mainland USA.
Thus, the higher delivery costs.
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I have also noted the American practice of finding the most costly and inefficient method of despatch which is all loaded into the price. My sister-in-law tells me the postal service is only used as a last resort in the States whereas here it works well and cheaply. We just can't get you to do the right thing and use it. Amazon prices itself out of my market by using FedEx. If they'd only post the damn goods I'd shop there all the time.
Americans buy on-line primarily because it is expected to be delivered the next day and are used to it.
Wait 3-5 days? Are you out of your mind?
Put it on a mail truck and let it bounce around all day until to mailman comes by? Not on you life.
You have a great country. Anybody would love to live there. That is if they knew anything about it. But then we know that like your in-laws, staying permanently is another matter.
I have also noted the American practice of finding the most costly and inefficient method of despatch which is all loaded into the price. My sister-in-law tells me the postal service is only used as a last resort in the States whereas here it works well and cheaply. We just can't get you to do the right thing and use it. Amazon prices itself out of my market by using FedEx. If they'd only post the damn goods I'd shop there all the time.
US Postal Service is fine. I've mailed out an average of two to three packages a day for over two years and I've yet to get complaints of lost or damaged packages. I think whatever bad rap they used to have for decades-ago abuse is undeserved now. I think they're at least as good as the alternatives. The USPS does offer tracking for most forms of packages now too.
Apple usually uses FedEx, whether for air or ground. Their delivery and price usually isn't bad, but I think FedEx is needlessly irritating to work with for shipping.
Which is quite contrary to the practice of non-American companies which usually cut prices of exports to enter and expand into foreign markets. I think it is a matter of perspective. Americans see themselves, like the Ancient Chinese, as the Middle Kingdom and everyone else has got it wrong. If they insist in their wicked practices they should be made to pay for them.
Despite the shorter distance to Australia, and once it has arrived at one of the major Australian cities (we are highly urbanised) it is substantially arrived at its market. Meanwhile in the USA it has merely reached California and has a another 4000km or more to go.
There is the factor that in Australia we do not have an illegal migrant or black underclass to exploit and we pay most everyone a living wage. This means luxury products like Macs are not being subsidised by the poor workers low wages, or by foreign consumers (because we are the foreign consumers).
How egocentric! Just because Americans have trouble adjusting to anyone else's differences you think you represent a standard in English usage! A standard judging by this and other forums that hasn't a clue as to spelling, grammar or the meanings of most words. Don't get me started on the misuse of common words, scientific terms and prepositions! I suppose the 95% of the world who use metric measures are adding to the costs to support both the Imperial & metric systems, not the USA causing the problem through intransigence.
More likely an underpaid transport workforce along with suppressed fuel pricing keeps costs down in the States.
Australia does however suffer more than most because of the internal tyranny of distance. Our population whilst highly concentrated in the major cities, still is distributed on the edges of a land mass about the same size as the mainland USA.
I have also noted the American practice of finding the most costly and inefficient method of despatch which is all loaded into the price. My sister-in-law tells me the postal service is only used as a last resort in the States whereas here it works well and cheaply. We just can't get you to do the right thing and use it. Amazon prices itself out of my market by using FedEx. If they'd only post the damn goods I'd shop there all the time.
Boy are you off base on most things here.
Arrogant would be a good word for it. Bitchy would also work. You could use your words for almost any country, or area.
While the mainstream chips 2.4 and 2.66 GHz versions are rated at a TDP of 25 watts, the 2.8 GHz (T9600) model runs at a 35 watt TDP and this special 3.06 GHz SKU at 55 watts.
Does 55 watts bother anyone in the 3.06 chip? Will it be noisy in your opinion? HOw much of a jump from 2.8 GHZ to 3.06 GHZ are you getting?
It's still lower power than the Mac Pro chips. It should still be a lot quieter than any of the G5 iMacs.
Wow. 300 bucks to upgrade from 2 to 4 GB of memory is 200 bucks more expensive than it should be. I just replaced a 1GB DIMM with 2GB from Trans International and it cost all of $42 so replacing 2 would cost $84. Why does apple charge $216 more than Trans? Thats a 257% markup!
It's not $300, it's $200 to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB (the article is wrong).
Well, folks, this is the last iMac model before the launch of a quad-core Penryn iMac.
In Canada, every new model is still $100 more expensive than the same iMac sold through the US AppleStore. It's not a way to spur sales or increase market share.
In Canada, availability of the new iMacs is quoted to be in the next 30 days, dangerously close to the June release of quad-core Penryn chips. Should a careful buyer wait for quad-core Penryn iMacs?
Well, folks, this is the last iMac model before the launch of a quad-core Penryn iMac.
In Canada, every new model is still $100 more expensive than the same iMac sold through the US AppleStore. It's not a way to spur sales or increase market share.
In Canada, availability of the new iMacs is quoted to be in the next 30 days, dangerously close to the June release of quad-core Penryn chips. Should a careful buyer wait for quad-core Penryn iMacs?
i doubt that apple will release both macbook and macbook pro and imac update at the same time.. especially when they are going to do some major changes to their laptops..but i maybe wrong..
Not usual. There are anti-dumping laws that prevent it.
When it suits, and mainly applied against "dumped" Canadian lumber, am I right?
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Only 400 km difference between Beijing-Sydney and Beijing-San Francisco. Point is Apple ships a 100,000 Macs to San Francisco and maybe 5,000 Beijing to Sydney at a time. Significant difference in cost per unit in shipping costs. Once landed, Apple's deals for UPS/FedeX land costs are significantly lower because of the yearly volume.
But when it lands in Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide or Perth, all more or less equidistant from Asia (Brisbane is even closer), you have 90% of the population covered.
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Way out of line. Sure you didn't mean to add this.
Actually I did. It is obvious to outsiders that the States has progressed from institutionalised slavery to institutionalised exploitation. What is your minimum wage and what health cover do people on the minimum wage enjoy? How many jobs do they need to have to keep their heads above water, presuming they don't get injured or sick? What level of debt are they into to try and maintain the "American Dream" of consuming their way to happiness?
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My point (as well) was that Apple like any other self-respecting company entering a foreign country has to provide materials, particularly re communication, in a form that is representative of the land in which they are doing business. Although the Australian web site is probably built in the US along with or in concert with every other foreign site, there are costs differentials which are charged ex-country accordingly. Probably exceptionally small, but they add up.
It may actually be the other way round. It maybe an Ossie, a Kiwi or an Indian building the US website, you'll have to ask Apple.
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Volume. Tax structures. Population.
Tick 1 & 3. But the tax breaks of those how don't need it are at the expense of those just trying to survive. We don't consider that fair and tossed out Bush's Deputy Sheriff when he tried to bring in American style tax and work contracts to Australia.
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Underpaid transport workforce? You won't find much support from the average consumer here.
How much of a clue does the average American consumer have of anything? My parents spent most of their trip to the Grand Canyon trying to keep their coach driver awake, because he was probably working 2 -3 jobs. I have seen Americans thinking all their Sundays have come at once, at the prospect of not having to tip here because employees get a living wage for their work.
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Thus, the higher delivery costs.
Yes distance is a factor, when it needs to leave a capital city for a small minority of Australians. Still the lower cost of the States is achieved in most cases by artificially low fuel costs and paying low wages.
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Wait 3-5 days? Are you out of your mind?
Well with FedEX I waited months and still had to go pick it up from their inconveniently located offices, all at my expense. The post would have been much faster, cheaper and convenient.
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You have a great country. Anybody would love to live there. That is if they knew anything about it. But then we know that like your in-laws, staying permanently is another matter.
She left to marry a childhood sweetheart who as I understand it lives a pretty crappy life in Queens after having been downsized in the 90's. But then that's love for you.
1. Consumers also suffer from reflections, the fact they don't recognise what the problem is is irrelevant. As is the spurious suggestion that they are the ones who will be watching movies (video editors anyone?) not web browsing, or trying to read text documents and emails through the reflections.
2. How does NOT putting the glass on which is an extra, adds to the weight and complexity of fittings etc make for "additional complexity"?
3. How come it is possible to choose screens on the MacBook following your logic?
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Ok is anyone else getting tired of gross exaggerations? I have a MacBook... glossy screen as you know. I can't remember ONE time I had difficulty reading text or browsing websites because I was being blinded by reflections. In fact the ONLY time I ever see reflections is if light is coming in from a window and shining directly on my screen and even then it's not that bad at ALL. I have yet to use my MacBook outdoors after nearly 2 years of ownership so that has not been a problem either. Look, I understand the complaints from video editors and others, but the people that are suggesting these screens are unusable for anyone because of all the glare just don't know what they are talking about. I am a consumer, but I would not consider myself to be "suffering" from reflections, nor do I consider myself to not "recognize what the problem is" as you say, because for me there is no problem. It's a personal preference, and in some cases for certain people, a necessity to have a matte screen. I understand that, but if you are not one of these people, and you are ranting and raving about the horrible glare problem, just stop because there is very little if any truth to it.
As for your number 3, there is no screen option on the MacBook! Only the pro...
Edit: I will add one thing... I have noticed that when you look at the glossy screens in the Apple Store, the reflections are much more apparent, but that has to do with the bright fluorescent lighting in the store. In normal home lighting, the experience is much different.
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No need. You just didn't know about the 'back room' conniving.
Maybe I can recant my precious post. Even if these are overclocked Penryns they still ahve several aspects of Montevina with the FSB, L2 and the faster RAM. We'll just have to wait for Anand or Tom to tear into them.
I expect to see preliminary speed tests from MacWorld tomorrow. The bump from 2.0 to 2.4GHz for the base model?as well as the other features?should show a very increase in performance.
Does 55 watts bother anyone in the 3.06 chip? Will it be noisy in your opinion? HOw much of a jump from 2.8 GHZ to 3.06 GHZ are you getting?
Anyway, once someone gets their hands on one of the new iMacs and installs Windows on it, we'll have all sorts of info on the chipsets it uses.
Apple is an American company doing business in a foreign country. As such, it is subject to foreign commercial and consumer laws, taxes and business/social issues that add to the general cost of goods and the difference is passed on to the foreign consumer.
Which is quite contrary to the practice of non-American companies which usually cut prices of exports to enter and expand into foreign markets. I think it is a matter of perspective. Americans see themselves, like the Ancient Chinese, as the Middle Kingdom and everyone else has got it wrong. If they insist in their wicked practices they should be made to pay for them.
For every Mac that Apple brings into the US from China for example, is subject to US importation costs, which on a unit bases, is significantly less than what is alloted to each Mac sold in Australia. The same for overhead, marketing and general legal (corporate) costs are significantly lower per unit in the US, but they are added necessities in foreign operations.
As such, doing business in another country has an added cost. True, the more the merrier and its additional sales do in fact drive overall production costs down. However, shipping a Mac from China to Australia will cost more per unit than shipping the same Mac to California.
Despite the shorter distance to Australia, and once it has arrived at one of the major Australian cities (we are highly urbanised) it is substantially arrived at its market. Meanwhile in the USA it has merely reached California and has a another 4000km or more to go.
There is the factor that in Australia we do not have an illegal migrant or black underclass to exploit and we pay most everyone a living wage. This means luxury products like Macs are not being subsidised by the poor workers low wages, or by foreign consumers (because we are the foreign consumers).
By the way, don't tell an Aussie that we speak English. Although I would think that they also would agree that they don't as well. For sure, the Brits or the Canadians would argue on whether Americans speak English. But even the Canadians would say that they are the only English speaking people that every other so called English speaking person in the world can understand. In any event, those little nuances between American English and Australian has a cost, albeit small, but one of those things that just adds up and up.
How egocentric! Just because Americans have trouble adjusting to anyone else's differences you think you represent a standard in English usage! A standard judging by this and other forums that hasn't a clue as to spelling, grammar or the meanings of most words. Don't get me started on the misuse of common words, scientific terms and prepositions! I suppose the 95% of the world who use metric measures are adding to the costs to support both the Imperial & metric systems, not the USA causing the problem through intransigence.
Big landed cost in Australia is for shipping. Nearly twice as much than in the US. For example, free shipping in US, Canada and Australia is free over $50, $75 and $90 respectively. Obviously volume/mile delivered is the key factor.
More likely an underpaid transport workforce along with suppressed fuel pricing keeps costs down in the States.
Australia does however suffer more than most because of the internal tyranny of distance. Our population whilst highly concentrated in the major cities, still is distributed on the edges of a land mass about the same size as the mainland USA.
I have also noted the American practice of finding the most costly and inefficient method of despatch which is all loaded into the price. My sister-in-law tells me the postal service is only used as a last resort in the States whereas here it works well and cheaply. We just can't get you to do the right thing and use it. Amazon prices itself out of my market by using FedEx. If they'd only post the damn goods I'd shop there all the time.
You're really doing it LBB? I never thought I'd see the day! If so, congratulations
...m'yeh.
As opposed to waiting another 9 months+ for Apple to do Nehalem 0cto-core with a next gen card.
It'll do the job. I made a list of all the things I need to do now. The iMac ticks all the boxes. So, no argument. It's not a octo-3d powerhouse. But with a GS and a dual 3 gigger. Respectable. 'Adequate'. As such it's a stop gap machine. But a very nice one at that...
I'll let you guys know how it runs when I get it...
Lemon Bon Bon.
I really dislike the glossy screen, and someone who bought one a year ago really dislikes it too. I would pay extra for the non-glossy option as a build-to-order.
Dr. Ledgard
...m'yeh.
As opposed to waiting another 9 months+ for Apple to do Nehalem 0cto-core with a next gen card.
It'll do the job. I made a list of all the things I need to do now. The iMac ticks all the boxes. So, no argument. It's not a octo-3d powerhouse. But with a GS and a dual 3 gigger. Respectable. 'Adequate'. As such it's a stop gap machine. But a very nice one at that...
I'll let you guys know how it runs when I get it...
Lemon Bon Bon.
Outstanding! I want a thread with unboxing porn and everything.
Which is quite contrary to the practice of non-American companies which usually cut prices of exports to enter and expand into foreign markets. I think it is a matter of perspective. Americans see themselves, like the Ancient Chinese, as the Middle Kingdom and everyone else has got it wrong. If they insist in their wicked practices they should be made to pay for them.
Not usual. There are anti-dumping laws that prevent it.
Despite the shorter distance to Australia, and once it has arrived at one of the major Australian cities (we are highly urbanised) it is substantially arrived at its market. Meanwhile in the USA it has merely reached California and has a another 4000km or more to go.
Only 400 km difference between Beijing-Sydney and Beijing-San Francisco. Point is Apple ships a 100,000 Macs to San Francisco and maybe 5,000 Beijing to Sydney at a time. Significant difference in cost per unit in shipping costs. Once landed, Apple's deals for UPS/FedeX land costs are significantly lower because of the yearly volume.
There is the factor that in Australia we do not have an illegal migrant or black underclass to exploit and we pay most everyone a living wage. This means luxury products like Macs are not being subsidised by the poor workers low wages, or by foreign consumers (because we are the foreign consumers).
Way out of line. Sure you didn't mean to add this.
How egocentric! Just because Americans have trouble adjusting to anyone else's differences you think you represent a standard in English usage! A standard judging by this and other forums that hasn't a clue as to spelling, grammar or the meanings of most words. Don't get me started on the misuse of common words, scientific terms and prepositions! I suppose the 95% of the world who use metric measures are adding to the costs to support both the Imperial & metric systems, not the USA causing the problem through intransigence.
My point (as well) was that Apple like any other self-respecting company entering a foreign country has to provide materials, particularly re communication, in a form that is representative of the land in which they are doing business. Although the Australian web site is probably built in the US along with or in concert with every other foreign site, there are costs differentials which are charged ex-country accordingly. Probably exceptionally small, but they add up.
More likely an underpaid transport workforce along with suppressed fuel pricing keeps costs down in the States.
Volume. Tax structures. Population.
Underpaid transport workforce? You won't find much support from the average consumer here.
Australia does however suffer more than most because of the internal tyranny of distance. Our population whilst highly concentrated in the major cities, still is distributed on the edges of a land mass about the same size as the mainland USA.
Thus, the higher delivery costs.
I have also noted the American practice of finding the most costly and inefficient method of despatch which is all loaded into the price. My sister-in-law tells me the postal service is only used as a last resort in the States whereas here it works well and cheaply. We just can't get you to do the right thing and use it. Amazon prices itself out of my market by using FedEx. If they'd only post the damn goods I'd shop there all the time.
Americans buy on-line primarily because it is expected to be delivered the next day and are used to it.
Wait 3-5 days? Are you out of your mind?
Put it on a mail truck and let it bounce around all day until to mailman comes by? Not on you life.
You have a great country. Anybody would love to live there. That is if they knew anything about it. But then we know that like your in-laws, staying permanently is another matter.
Outstanding! I want a thread with unboxing porn and everything.
Teh unboxing 'porn'. Hmm...shouldn't be a problem...if I can get a digital camera...
Lemon Bon Bon.
I have also noted the American practice of finding the most costly and inefficient method of despatch which is all loaded into the price. My sister-in-law tells me the postal service is only used as a last resort in the States whereas here it works well and cheaply. We just can't get you to do the right thing and use it. Amazon prices itself out of my market by using FedEx. If they'd only post the damn goods I'd shop there all the time.
US Postal Service is fine. I've mailed out an average of two to three packages a day for over two years and I've yet to get complaints of lost or damaged packages. I think whatever bad rap they used to have for decades-ago abuse is undeserved now. I think they're at least as good as the alternatives. The USPS does offer tracking for most forms of packages now too.
Apple usually uses FedEx, whether for air or ground. Their delivery and price usually isn't bad, but I think FedEx is needlessly irritating to work with for shipping.
Which is quite contrary to the practice of non-American companies which usually cut prices of exports to enter and expand into foreign markets. I think it is a matter of perspective. Americans see themselves, like the Ancient Chinese, as the Middle Kingdom and everyone else has got it wrong. If they insist in their wicked practices they should be made to pay for them.
Despite the shorter distance to Australia, and once it has arrived at one of the major Australian cities (we are highly urbanised) it is substantially arrived at its market. Meanwhile in the USA it has merely reached California and has a another 4000km or more to go.
There is the factor that in Australia we do not have an illegal migrant or black underclass to exploit and we pay most everyone a living wage. This means luxury products like Macs are not being subsidised by the poor workers low wages, or by foreign consumers (because we are the foreign consumers).
How egocentric! Just because Americans have trouble adjusting to anyone else's differences you think you represent a standard in English usage! A standard judging by this and other forums that hasn't a clue as to spelling, grammar or the meanings of most words. Don't get me started on the misuse of common words, scientific terms and prepositions! I suppose the 95% of the world who use metric measures are adding to the costs to support both the Imperial & metric systems, not the USA causing the problem through intransigence.
More likely an underpaid transport workforce along with suppressed fuel pricing keeps costs down in the States.
Australia does however suffer more than most because of the internal tyranny of distance. Our population whilst highly concentrated in the major cities, still is distributed on the edges of a land mass about the same size as the mainland USA.
I have also noted the American practice of finding the most costly and inefficient method of despatch which is all loaded into the price. My sister-in-law tells me the postal service is only used as a last resort in the States whereas here it works well and cheaply. We just can't get you to do the right thing and use it. Amazon prices itself out of my market by using FedEx. If they'd only post the damn goods I'd shop there all the time.
Boy are you off base on most things here.
Arrogant would be a good word for it. Bitchy would also work. You could use your words for almost any country, or area.
While the mainstream chips 2.4 and 2.66 GHz versions are rated at a TDP of 25 watts, the 2.8 GHz (T9600) model runs at a 35 watt TDP and this special 3.06 GHz SKU at 55 watts.
Does 55 watts bother anyone in the 3.06 chip? Will it be noisy in your opinion? HOw much of a jump from 2.8 GHZ to 3.06 GHZ are you getting?
It's still lower power than the Mac Pro chips. It should still be a lot quieter than any of the G5 iMacs.
Wow. 300 bucks to upgrade from 2 to 4 GB of memory is 200 bucks more expensive than it should be. I just replaced a 1GB DIMM with 2GB from Trans International and it cost all of $42 so replacing 2 would cost $84. Why does apple charge $216 more than Trans? Thats a 257% markup!
It's not $300, it's $200 to upgrade from 2GB to 4GB (the article is wrong).
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In Canada, every new model is still $100 more expensive than the same iMac sold through the US AppleStore. It's not a way to spur sales or increase market share.
In Canada, availability of the new iMacs is quoted to be in the next 30 days, dangerously close to the June release of quad-core Penryn chips. Should a careful buyer wait for quad-core Penryn iMacs?
Well, folks, this is the last iMac model before the launch of a quad-core Penryn iMac.
In Canada, every new model is still $100 more expensive than the same iMac sold through the US AppleStore. It's not a way to spur sales or increase market share.
In Canada, availability of the new iMacs is quoted to be in the next 30 days, dangerously close to the June release of quad-core Penryn chips. Should a careful buyer wait for quad-core Penryn iMacs?
i doubt that apple will release both macbook and macbook pro and imac update at the same time.. especially when they are going to do some major changes to their laptops..but i maybe wrong..
Not usual. There are anti-dumping laws that prevent it.
When it suits, and mainly applied against "dumped" Canadian lumber, am I right?
Only 400 km difference between Beijing-Sydney and Beijing-San Francisco. Point is Apple ships a 100,000 Macs to San Francisco and maybe 5,000 Beijing to Sydney at a time. Significant difference in cost per unit in shipping costs. Once landed, Apple's deals for UPS/FedeX land costs are significantly lower because of the yearly volume.
But when it lands in Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide or Perth, all more or less equidistant from Asia (Brisbane is even closer), you have 90% of the population covered.
Way out of line. Sure you didn't mean to add this.
Actually I did. It is obvious to outsiders that the States has progressed from institutionalised slavery to institutionalised exploitation. What is your minimum wage and what health cover do people on the minimum wage enjoy? How many jobs do they need to have to keep their heads above water, presuming they don't get injured or sick? What level of debt are they into to try and maintain the "American Dream" of consuming their way to happiness?
My point (as well) was that Apple like any other self-respecting company entering a foreign country has to provide materials, particularly re communication, in a form that is representative of the land in which they are doing business. Although the Australian web site is probably built in the US along with or in concert with every other foreign site, there are costs differentials which are charged ex-country accordingly. Probably exceptionally small, but they add up.
It may actually be the other way round. It maybe an Ossie, a Kiwi or an Indian building the US website, you'll have to ask Apple.
Volume. Tax structures. Population.
Tick 1 & 3. But the tax breaks of those how don't need it are at the expense of those just trying to survive. We don't consider that fair and tossed out Bush's Deputy Sheriff when he tried to bring in American style tax and work contracts to Australia.
Underpaid transport workforce? You won't find much support from the average consumer here.
How much of a clue does the average American consumer have of anything? My parents spent most of their trip to the Grand Canyon trying to keep their coach driver awake, because he was probably working 2 -3 jobs. I have seen Americans thinking all their Sundays have come at once, at the prospect of not having to tip here because employees get a living wage for their work.
Thus, the higher delivery costs.
Yes distance is a factor, when it needs to leave a capital city for a small minority of Australians. Still the lower cost of the States is achieved in most cases by artificially low fuel costs and paying low wages.
Wait 3-5 days? Are you out of your mind?
Well with FedEX I waited months and still had to go pick it up from their inconveniently located offices, all at my expense. The post would have been much faster, cheaper and convenient.
You have a great country. Anybody would love to live there. That is if they knew anything about it. But then we know that like your in-laws, staying permanently is another matter.
She left to marry a childhood sweetheart who as I understand it lives a pretty crappy life in Queens after having been downsized in the 90's. But then that's love for you.
1. Consumers also suffer from reflections, the fact they don't recognise what the problem is is irrelevant. As is the spurious suggestion that they are the ones who will be watching movies (video editors anyone?) not web browsing, or trying to read text documents and emails through the reflections.
2. How does NOT putting the glass on which is an extra, adds to the weight and complexity of fittings etc make for "additional complexity"?
3. How come it is possible to choose screens on the MacBook following your logic?
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Ok is anyone else getting tired of gross exaggerations? I have a MacBook... glossy screen as you know. I can't remember ONE time I had difficulty reading text or browsing websites because I was being blinded by reflections. In fact the ONLY time I ever see reflections is if light is coming in from a window and shining directly on my screen and even then it's not that bad at ALL. I have yet to use my MacBook outdoors after nearly 2 years of ownership so that has not been a problem either. Look, I understand the complaints from video editors and others, but the people that are suggesting these screens are unusable for anyone because of all the glare just don't know what they are talking about. I am a consumer, but I would not consider myself to be "suffering" from reflections, nor do I consider myself to not "recognize what the problem is" as you say, because for me there is no problem. It's a personal preference, and in some cases for certain people, a necessity to have a matte screen. I understand that, but if you are not one of these people, and you are ranting and raving about the horrible glare problem, just stop because there is very little if any truth to it.
As for your number 3, there is no screen option on the MacBook! Only the pro...
Edit: I will add one thing... I have noticed that when you look at the glossy screens in the Apple Store, the reflections are much more apparent, but that has to do with the bright fluorescent lighting in the store. In normal home lighting, the experience is much different.