Apple poised for special event this September

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  • Reply 21 of 311
    dentondenton Posts: 725member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    At this year's event, Munster is expecting Apple to refresh its iPod family through a number of "pricing and capacity changes." Specifically, he's looking for capacity increases to iPod shuffles and iPod nanos, but no price reductions on those models. Conversely, the iPod touch is likely to see a redesign "and a new $199 price point, in line with the iPhone."



    The shuffle is likely to be unchanged this September. Sure 4GB would be doable at the same price-point as the 2GB holds right now, but why? Unless the shuffle is re-designed to have a small screen, there is not much point in having so much space for music that you can't browse. Or is Apple going to begin pushing a lossless format instead of 256 Kbps AAC?



    Increased capacity on the Nano makes sense, but I can't shake the feeling that the Nano will be replaced with a touch screen Nano. Perhaps that will wait for another year. I've just been feeling that the click-wheel has had it's day -- It's simply too imprecise (at least on the Nano). EDIT: can this be a "'product transition' that cuts back on its profit margins?" Apple does sell a lot of Nanos -- if they went for touch-interface Nanos at the same prices, this would certainly lower margins and would "shut out rivals."



    iPod Touch at $199? I doubt that very much. It might feasibly come down to $249, but I think it's far more likely to have larger capacity at the same price. The Touch and the iPhone are simply not competitors. Until Apple can find a way to incorporate an on-going usage charge into the Touch, it will be infeasible to charge so little up-front for the device. Remember that AT&T is subsidising the iPhone somewhere between $300 and $400, and they're happy to do it because people are signing up for data plans on top of their voice plans. Munster is way off on this one.
  • Reply 22 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 32,994member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Galley View Post


    My predictions:



    *The 3G shuffle gets capacity bumps to 2GB and 4GB at current prices, but also gains a tiny display. It may be slightly larger.



    *The nano is killed off, replaced by the new shuffle.



    *The iPod touch drops in price, and essentially replaces the nano, pushing everyone towards unified games and software in the App Store. An updated design may include playback controls on the body, and an internal speaker.

    8GB - $199

    16GB- $299

    32GB - $399



    Something like that is likely. I'm not so sure about the tiny screen though. What would be the point? The Shuffle sells well without it.
  • Reply 23 of 311
    cdnalsicdnalsi Posts: 33member
    Again with the 'analysts' and their precious outlooks and predictions? Jeez...
  • Reply 24 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 32,994member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FuturePastNow View Post


    Although they use the same basic design, the cases are different. The Macbook Pro is larger than the Powerbook, with a 15.4" display vs 15.2", thinner than the Powerbook, and has the obvious addition of an iSight and IR sensor.



    And of course the internal layout is completely different.



    The size is a tiny bit larger, but the design is the same.



    If the designs we've been seeing on the net are correct, this will be a much bigger change.
  • Reply 25 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 32,994member
    Anyway, screw all this!



    Where's my new Nehalem Mac Pro?
  • Reply 26 of 311
    shanmugamshanmugam Posts: 1,200member
    My Predictions

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    iPod Touch - internal changes, new features unknown

    4GB - $149

    8GB - $199

    16GB - $299

    32GB - $399



    iPod nano - axed

    iPod shuffle - 2 & 4GB



    Alu MacBooks

    13" & 15"



    Alu MacBook Pro

    15" & 17" - (13" MBP is kinda of overlap between MB and MBA - so not viable)



    Sep 2nd OR Sep 9th Tuesday Apple event almost a month away toooo early to get excited
  • Reply 27 of 311
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cdnalsi View Post


    Again with the 'analysts' and their precious outlooks and predictions? Jeez...



    Some say analyst others say ANALyst.
  • Reply 28 of 311
    wobegonwobegon Posts: 764member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    Since there seems to be a debate over the internal optical drive, why not just make it removable and let users put whatever they want inside: optical drive, second battery, or second hard drive.



    Same reason iPhones and iPods don't use removable batteries: makes the overall product more bulky. Simply dropping the internal disc drive to save space and slim down the Air while providing an optional SuperDrive for those that actually want or need one makes more sense both in terms of technology and costs.
  • Reply 28 of 311
    dentondenton Posts: 725member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Galley View Post


    My predictions:



    *The 3G shuffle gets capacity bumps to 2GB and 4GB at current prices, but also gains a tiny display. It may be slightly larger.



    *The nano is killed off, replaced by the new shuffle.



    *The iPod touch drops in price, and essentially replaces the nano, pushing everyone towards unified games and software in the App Store. An updated design may include playback controls on the body, and an internal speaker.

    8GB - $199

    16GB- $299

    32GB - $399



    Are people who bought the current Nano going to be happy with the Touch, which is larger in every possible metric? If I wanted a Touch, I would have bought one. I prefer the current Nano at $199 to even a free Touch because the size is my majority concern. I am not the only one. I'm not certain that a shuffle with a small screen would be adequate to replace the current Nano either.



    What is particularly compelling about the current Nano is that it rides the features line so well. It's not as good as the Touch on video, but it's still adequate in a pinch. It can't browse the internet, but that's not important for this segment of the market. It has low capacity, but large enough to contain all of the music and playlists that one actually listens to on any regular basis. And on top of that, it's small enough to exercise with. If you are only going to have one iPod, the Nano is the one -- you won't go jogging with a Touch and you can't watch video with a shuffle. I don't think that Apple can replace the Nano with anything other than another Nano without losing a lot of customers to other players.
  • Reply 30 of 311
    dentondenton Posts: 725member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shanmugam View Post


    iPod nano - axed



    As with Galley, I suspect you don't understand why people buy Nanos -- for many (majority?) it's not the price.
  • Reply 31 of 311
    rolandgrolandg Posts: 632member
    IMO, the MacBook's and the MacBook Pro's design is near perfect. Sleek, no unnecessary fuss, quality materials, clever details. What do you think could be optimized?
  • Reply 32 of 311
    solsunsolsun Posts: 763member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by yama View Post


    Uh, because the current MacBook Pro is has almost the same case design as the Aluminium G4s that were released in 2003 maybe?



    Compare PowerBook G4 with MacBook Pro. Spot the differences







    Thats definitely not a 2003 Powerbook G4. The original PowerBook G4's (titanium) had black keyboards, plus Garageband didn't exist in 2003.



    At any rate, I understand that the color has always been the same, but everything else has changed. It has been redesigned many times.
  • Reply 33 of 311
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    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    Anyway, screw all this!



    Where's my new Nehalem Mac Pro?



    Why the rush? Just kidding!!



    I'm still very happy with my G4. I've maxed out the ram, added a bigger hard drive and if I need Microsoft Windows it has VirtualPC for the Mac w/XP Pro. The only thing I could think of if I want to whine is it will soon need a new battery. Right now I'm getting about 1 1/2 to 2 hours of charge time.
  • Reply 34 of 311
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    Originally Posted by VisualZone View Post


    Why the rush? Just kidding!!



    I'm still very happy with my G4. I've maxed out the ram, added a bigger hard drive and if I need Microsoft Windows it has VirtualPC for the Mac w/XP Pro. The only thing I could think of if I want to whine is it will need soon is a new battery. Right now I'm getting about 1 1/2 to 2 hours of charge time.



    It's been upgraded to Tiger and iLife 08.
  • Reply 35 of 311
    dentondenton Posts: 725member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RolandG View Post


    IMO, the MacBook's and the MacBook Pro's design is near perfect. Sleek, no unnecessary fuss, quality materials, clever details. What do you think could be optimized?



    The Macbook is plastic for one. Refreshing the design excites buyers. There is no other reason required than that.
  • Reply 36 of 311
    aapleaaple Posts: 78member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    Since there seems to be a debate over the internal optical drive, why not just make it removable and let users put whatever they want inside: optical drive, second battery, or second hard drive.



    Because if it was removable, it wouldn't be slot-loading, and Apple is in love with slot-loading disc drives.
  • Reply 37 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 32,994member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Denton View Post


    As with Galley, I suspect you don't understand why people buy Nanos -- for many (majority?) it's not the price.



    They could make a smaller touch.
  • Reply 38 of 311
    If you want to check out the different G4s go here. It's a great place I visit when I need some info on the specs of Macs.



    http://www.everymac.com/systems/appl...erbook-g4.html
  • Reply 39 of 311
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    The size is a tiny bit larger, but the design is the same.



    If the designs we've been seeing on the net are correct, this will be a much bigger change.



    Yep. It'll be a bigger, thicker Macbook Air.
  • Reply 40 of 311
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 32,994member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VisualZone View Post


    Why the rush? Just kidding!!



    I'm still very happy with my G4. I've maxed out the ram, added a bigger hard drive and if I need Microsoft Windows it has VirtualPC for the Mac w/XP Pro. The only thing I could think of if I want to whine is it will need soon is a new battery. Right now I'm getting about 1 1/2 to 2 hours of charge time.



    Ive been waiting to buy a new machine for a while. I retired a few years ago, so I don't NEED a new machine...



    I've decided to wait for the Nehalem. I'd like it to get here.
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