Why has the entire world lost the ability to properly use the apostrophe? Did none of you people get out of the third grade? It's bad enough when some teenage leet-speaker does it, but to have it misused in published articles is simply inexcusable.
Your grammar is correct. However, your use of profanity is contrary to the conditions for posting here. Suggest you clean up your act.
NOTE: Although names ending in s or an s sound are not required to have the second s added in possessive form, it is preferred.
Mr. Jones's golf clubs
Texas's weather
Ms. Straus's daughter
Jose Sanchez's artwork
Dr. Hastings's appointment (name is Hastings)
Mrs. Lees's books (name is Lees)
However AP Style Book is the standard guide in the news business state that Singular Proper Names ending in S do not use the apostrophe. They even go on to use Jesus' Life as an example of how it is to be used. There are examples of exceptions such as St. James's Place. As great as Steve Jobs is, I don't think he deserves and exemption if Jesus doesn?t.
Both Grammar Book and AP Style
have quite lengthy entries on apostrophe usage. There is quite a bit more than what a 3rd grader would go over in class. Quite possibly more than their teachers know about as well. So while I'm sure that you got out of the third grade, I'll put money that the author has a bit of experience in writing and, because they actually used the correct rule for the venue, has definitely gotten out of the 3rd grade.
As for the iPhone I look forward to these fixes. I've been fortunate and haven't had to much trouble with my apple devices. Well except for the whole laptop hard drive dying on me in Iraq. My G4 PowerBook got a "Purple MotherBoard" during the Surge.
You know what i like about your post?.. it put the original poster, who is a jerk, in his place. I hate nerds who feel they need to come into forums and instead of criticizing an article, does spelling and grammar check. Why the hell don't they just email the publisher instead of going into a forum to demonstrate how smart they are?. Geekiness is not sexy. Besides, how many people care that Jobs name does not have an apostrophe (i don't).
NOTE: Although names ending in s or an s sound are not required to have the second s added in possessive form, it is preferred.
Mr. Jones's golf clubs
Texas's weather
Ms. Straus's daughter
Jose Sanchez's artwork
Dr. Hastings's appointment (name is Hastings)
Mrs. Lees's books (name is Lees)
However AP Style Book is the standard guide in the news business state that Singular Proper Names ending in S do not use the apostrophe. They even go on to use Jesus' Life as an example of how it is to be used. There are examples of exceptions such as St. James's Place. As great as Steve Jobs is, I don't think he deserves and exemption if Jesus doesn’t.
Both Grammar Book and AP Style
have quite lengthy entries on apostrophe usage. There is quite a bit more than what a 3rd grader would go over in class. Quite possibly more than their teachers know about as well. So while I'm sure that you got out of the third grade, I'll put money that the author has a bit of experience in writing and, because they actually used the correct rule for the venue, has definitely gotten out of the 3rd grade.
As for the iPhone I look forward to these fixes. I've been fortunate and haven't had to much trouble with my apple devices. Well except for the whole laptop hard drive dying on me in Iraq. My G4 PowerBook got a "Purple MotherBoard" during the Surge.
Never used the AP Style Book. My bible for such is The Chicago Manual of Style, or for short, The Chicago Manual.
The Chicago Manual, published by the University of Chicago press, is regarded as the reference source for authors, editors and copywriters, particularly in publishing and advertising. Twice as big and nearly double the cost of the AP Style Handbooks, has probably allowed a lessor style guide as the AP handbooks to become as attractive as it is.
However, I digress.
I would take The Chicago Manual's as my definitive reference guide. In it, the possessive ending for proper names ending in sibilants such as Jobs, is 's and would, therefore, be written as Jobs's. Using it, as such, is not in question.
You know what i like about your post?.. it put the original poster, who is a jerk, in his place. I hate nerds who feel they need to come into forums and instead of criticizing an article, does spelling and grammar check. Why the hell don't they just email the publisher instead of going into a forum to demonstrate how smart they are?. Geekiness is not sexy. Besides, how many people care that Jobs name does not have an apostrophe (i don't).
Yeah, what I think is ironic is that those correcting other's grammar usually have some typographical error in their post.
I'm guessing the iPhone suffers from some of the same problems Mac OS X at large does: needing to repair permissions every now and then. In fact, I'm backing up some stuff on my MBP right now so that I can reinstall Mac OS on it because Disk Utility can't even repair permissions anymore (and I can't install anything because the permissions are messed up so bad).
I think Apple seriously needs to look into having a proper install management system. I've run various flavors of UNIX for years and never had to repair permissions on a regular basis. Obviously Installer.app and whatever the Software Update mechanism uses aren't cutting it. Same goes for whatever is managing software installs on the iPhone.
If permissions can be repaired with an app, why can't an automated process be made to repair permissions on a regular basis by Apple? The whole permissions thing in OSX is absurd and un-Apple-ish.
"Though i were writing novel I and used that term I would not use apostrophe..." Try proof reading your lessons... "If I were writing a novel, and I used that term, I would not use an apostrophe..."
I would call it a bigoted, insensitive, feeble, another failed attempt at being funny.
I mock, belittle, and berate religion - as it deserves - any chance I get. Not that the stupidity of it all needs any help protecting religion for the silly reasons we do today are in my view bigoted, insensitive, feeble attempts to smack logic in the face. alas, I digress.
No problems for me on 2.0.2 although I dont run any intensive apps, mainly just facebook for the occasional IM and apple remote. i've got a few things on the burner.. I have the SDK but not part of the program so I can't run anything natively on my phone at this point. My hope is that over the coming months when my stuff is ready these kinks will be ironed out.
I mock, belittle, and berate religion - as it deserves - any chance I get. Not that the stupidity of it all needs any help protecting religion for the silly reasons we do today are in my view bigoted, insensitive, feeble attempts to smack logic in the face. alas, I digress.
Have you ever persuaded anyone to give up their religion by mocking, belittling, or
berating (or by using logic, for that matter)? Your weapons are useless in this endeavor.
I would be willing to bet that you have not, and rather that you have only
succeeded in increasing the amount of anger and separation people feel. This is not
productive on the level of individuals, groups, or nations. Try to think of a way
to help people become enlightened without the potential for violence.
I only pointed out the offensive attempt at humor, because I think it
detracts from the purpose of these forums to have religion dragged into the
Have you ever persuaded anyone to give up their religion by mocking, belittling, or
berating (or by using logic, for that matter)? Your weapons are useless in this endeavor.
I would be willing to bet that you have not, and rather that you have only
succeeded in increasing the amount of anger and separation people feel. This is not
productive on the level of individuals, groups, or nations. Try to think of a way
to help people become enlightened without the potential for violence.
I only pointed out the offensive attempt at humor, because I think it
detracts from the purpose of these forums to have religion dragged into the
discussions.
With your second and last sentence I agree. For the rest, I only offer a quote that I agree with from the great Ron White, "You can't fix stupid." But to use a food metaphore, the topic of this thread is much like a Callifornia buriito. It has it's essential delicious ingredients such as carne asada, cheese, french fries, sour cream, quacamole and pico all wrapped up in a fresh tortilla... but it's much more enjoyable with hot sauce to augment the experience.
You will notice however after my slight dig at the crazies, there was some mildy on-topic discussion. Now you've gone and broken my wonderful track record.
I mock, belittle, and berate religion - as it deserves - any chance I get. Not that the stupidity of it all needs any help protecting religion for the silly reasons we do today are in my view bigoted, insensitive, feeble attempts to smack logic in the face. alas, I digress.
I have no problem with your views on religion. Differences of opinion are needed and in many cases sorely missed, however I see no reason to take a shot at someone just because the opportunity was there. It illustrates a sophomoric and myopic world view that has us hip deep in shit right now globally.
Back to digressing. I too have not had any of the problems (knocking on my forehead at the moment) that so many are having. I might just be one of the lucky few.
I am having the same problem with my iPod touch, specifically Monkey ball and CroMag crash most times when they get to the splash screen. I hope the iPod users get an update as well, stop treating us like second class citizens!!
My third-party apps seem to be working fine. Lately, however, I have noticed a bug in forums which causes random attacks on grammar and religion, instead of typical discussions on AppleInsider articles. Hope to see a fix soon!
Why has the entire world lost the ability to properly use the apostrophe? Did none of you people get out of the third grade? It's bad enough when some teenage leet-speaker does it, but to have it misused in published articles is simply inexcusable.
You're wrong. It's acceptable, according to most style guides, to use "Jobs'". This is true for words that end with sibilant sounds.
Why you would write "For fuck's sake" is beyond me.
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For f**k's sake, it's "Jobs's".
Why has the entire world lost the ability to properly use the apostrophe? Did none of you people get out of the third grade? It's bad enough when some teenage leet-speaker does it, but to have it misused in published articles is simply inexcusable.
Your grammar is correct. However, your use of profanity is contrary to the conditions for posting here. Suggest you clean up your act.
Well you're right and wrong on this.
Grammarbook.com has this entry.
NOTE: Although names ending in s or an s sound are not required to have the second s added in possessive form, it is preferred.
Mr. Jones's golf clubs
Texas's weather
Ms. Straus's daughter
Jose Sanchez's artwork
Dr. Hastings's appointment (name is Hastings)
Mrs. Lees's books (name is Lees)
However AP Style Book is the standard guide in the news business state that Singular Proper Names ending in S do not use the apostrophe. They even go on to use Jesus' Life as an example of how it is to be used. There are examples of exceptions such as St. James's Place. As great as Steve Jobs is, I don't think he deserves and exemption if Jesus doesn?t.
Both Grammar Book and AP Style
have quite lengthy entries on apostrophe usage. There is quite a bit more than what a 3rd grader would go over in class. Quite possibly more than their teachers know about as well. So while I'm sure that you got out of the third grade, I'll put money that the author has a bit of experience in writing and, because they actually used the correct rule for the venue, has definitely gotten out of the 3rd grade.
As for the iPhone I look forward to these fixes. I've been fortunate and haven't had to much trouble with my apple devices. Well except for the whole laptop hard drive dying on me in Iraq. My G4 PowerBook got a "Purple MotherBoard" during the Surge.
You know what i like about your post?.. it put the original poster, who is a jerk, in his place. I hate nerds who feel they need to come into forums and instead of criticizing an article, does spelling and grammar check. Why the hell don't they just email the publisher instead of going into a forum to demonstrate how smart they are?. Geekiness is not sexy. Besides, how many people care that Jobs name does not have an apostrophe (i don't).
Well you're right and wrong on this.
Grammarbook.com has this entry.
NOTE: Although names ending in s or an s sound are not required to have the second s added in possessive form, it is preferred.
Mr. Jones's golf clubs
Texas's weather
Ms. Straus's daughter
Jose Sanchez's artwork
Dr. Hastings's appointment (name is Hastings)
Mrs. Lees's books (name is Lees)
However AP Style Book is the standard guide in the news business state that Singular Proper Names ending in S do not use the apostrophe. They even go on to use Jesus' Life as an example of how it is to be used. There are examples of exceptions such as St. James's Place. As great as Steve Jobs is, I don't think he deserves and exemption if Jesus doesn’t.
Both Grammar Book and AP Style
have quite lengthy entries on apostrophe usage. There is quite a bit more than what a 3rd grader would go over in class. Quite possibly more than their teachers know about as well. So while I'm sure that you got out of the third grade, I'll put money that the author has a bit of experience in writing and, because they actually used the correct rule for the venue, has definitely gotten out of the 3rd grade.
As for the iPhone I look forward to these fixes. I've been fortunate and haven't had to much trouble with my apple devices. Well except for the whole laptop hard drive dying on me in Iraq. My G4 PowerBook got a "Purple MotherBoard" during the Surge.
Never used the AP Style Book. My bible for such is The Chicago Manual of Style, or for short, The Chicago Manual.
The Chicago Manual, published by the University of Chicago press, is regarded as the reference source for authors, editors and copywriters, particularly in publishing and advertising. Twice as big and nearly double the cost of the AP Style Handbooks, has probably allowed a lessor style guide as the AP handbooks to become as attractive as it is.
However, I digress.
I would take The Chicago Manual's as my definitive reference guide. In it, the possessive ending for proper names ending in sibilants such as Jobs, is 's and would, therefore, be written as Jobs's. Using it, as such, is not in question.
You know what i like about your post?.. it put the original poster, who is a jerk, in his place. I hate nerds who feel they need to come into forums and instead of criticizing an article, does spelling and grammar check. Why the hell don't they just email the publisher instead of going into a forum to demonstrate how smart they are?. Geekiness is not sexy. Besides, how many people care that Jobs name does not have an apostrophe (i don't).
Yeah, what I think is ironic is that those correcting other's grammar usually have some typographical error in their post.
I'm guessing the iPhone suffers from some of the same problems Mac OS X at large does: needing to repair permissions every now and then. In fact, I'm backing up some stuff on my MBP right now so that I can reinstall Mac OS on it because Disk Utility can't even repair permissions anymore (and I can't install anything because the permissions are messed up so bad).
I think Apple seriously needs to look into having a proper install management system. I've run various flavors of UNIX for years and never had to repair permissions on a regular basis. Obviously Installer.app and whatever the Software Update mechanism uses aren't cutting it. Same goes for whatever is managing software installs on the iPhone.
If permissions can be repaired with an app, why can't an automated process be made to repair permissions on a regular basis by Apple? The whole permissions thing in OSX is absurd and un-Apple-ish.
It is selling for about $715 for the 8GB version and for about $830 for the 16GB version
Holy cow!
Holy cow!
Is that an India joke?
Some people are sensitive about mocking religion.
Is that an India joke?
Some people are sensitive about mocking religion.
I would call it a bigoted, insensitive, feeble, another failed attempt at being funny.
I would call it a bigoted, insensitive, feeble, another failed attempt at being funny.
I mock, belittle, and berate religion - as it deserves - any chance I get. Not that the stupidity of it all needs any help
No problems for me on 2.0.2 although I dont run any intensive apps, mainly just facebook for the occasional IM and apple remote. i've got a few things on the burner.. I have the SDK but not part of the program so I can't run anything natively on my phone at this point. My hope is that over the coming months when my stuff is ready these kinks will be ironed out.
I mock, belittle, and berate religion - as it deserves - any chance I get. Not that the stupidity of it all needs any help
Have you ever persuaded anyone to give up their religion by mocking, belittling, or
berating (or by using logic, for that matter)? Your weapons are useless in this endeavor.
I would be willing to bet that you have not, and rather that you have only
succeeded in increasing the amount of anger and separation people feel. This is not
productive on the level of individuals, groups, or nations. Try to think of a way
to help people become enlightened without the potential for violence.
I only pointed out the offensive attempt at humor, because I think it
detracts from the purpose of these forums to have religion dragged into the
discussions.
Have you ever persuaded anyone to give up their religion by mocking, belittling, or
berating (or by using logic, for that matter)? Your weapons are useless in this endeavor.
I would be willing to bet that you have not, and rather that you have only
succeeded in increasing the amount of anger and separation people feel. This is not
productive on the level of individuals, groups, or nations. Try to think of a way
to help people become enlightened without the potential for violence.
I only pointed out the offensive attempt at humor, because I think it
detracts from the purpose of these forums to have religion dragged into the
discussions.
With your second and last sentence I agree. For the rest, I only offer a quote that I agree with from the great Ron White, "You can't fix stupid." But to use a food metaphore, the topic of this thread is much like a Callifornia buriito. It has it's essential delicious ingredients such as carne asada, cheese, french fries, sour cream, quacamole and pico all wrapped up in a fresh tortilla... but it's much more enjoyable with hot sauce to augment the experience.
You will notice however after my slight dig at the crazies, there was some mildy on-topic discussion. Now you've gone and broken my wonderful track record.
I mock, belittle, and berate religion - as it deserves - any chance I get. Not that the stupidity of it all needs any help
I have no problem with your views on religion. Differences of opinion are needed and in many cases sorely missed, however I see no reason to take a shot at someone just because the opportunity was there. It illustrates a sophomoric and myopic world view that has us hip deep in shit right now globally.
Back to digressing. I too have not had any of the problems (knocking on my forehead at the moment) that so many are having. I might just be one of the lucky few.
For fuck's sake, it's "Jobs's".
Why has the entire world lost the ability to properly use the apostrophe? Did none of you people get out of the third grade? It's bad enough when some teenage leet-speaker does it, but to have it misused in published articles is simply inexcusable.
You're wrong. It's acceptable, according to most style guides, to use "Jobs'". This is true for words that end with sibilant sounds.
Why you would write "For fuck's sake" is beyond me.