/We are all fussing (Well some are) over the boot screen!
I admit its grey (per se) but to be honest do many of your guys boot all that much???I havent done so for quite a while [Terminal: uptime: 10:12PM up 17 days, 2:48, 2 users, load averages: 0.41, 0.26, 0.15]
This, along with the new updated 'design' for the PowerMac, is the kind of crap that makes me hate Apple. (Have I already made my rant about this? Apologies if I have . . . meh . . . I dont really even care, actually . . . this is that bad.
There are only two elements of the Macintosh experience that are truly holy and sacred. These elements are the Apple Menu and the Happy Mac.
In early builds of System 10, Apple had robbed and sucked the life out of the Mac OS by ripping out the Apple Menu and putting a functionless Apple logo in the middle of the title bar. . . . this was just so unbelievably retarded, its almost uncomprehendable. Someone finally slapped Steve in the head, and the Apple Menu returned to its rightful place as a constant and stronghold of the Macintosh as a concept and a brand.
People . . . this is worse than that, IMHO. The Happy Mac is the most original and distinct part of the Macintosh. It is the most recognisable and recallable characteristic of the Macintosh experience. It is the the element that is a metaphor for the Macintosh like no other. It cannot be replaced.
Now, evolution is fine. Theres nothing wrong with that. Although there are some minor things about Aqua that really do suck, it is none-the-less a significant jump in the evolution of the Macintosh GUI, and a beautiful one at that. The Happy Face, in all its glory, has remained stagnant and obsolete. It has not evolved. This is a problem.
Mac OS X should have had and should have the Happy Face updated to the Aqua theme. Trash that damn grey background for Aqua blue. Re-do that awesome little Happy Mac in 128x128xAlpha beauty. Have some animation, maybe. Maybe have 'hello' (or, the equivalent of 'hello' for other languages) flash after a 2 or 3 second delay.
Hmmm . . . but, no. We were complaining about the 'disfigured, maimed Happy Face'! LOL! EVEN THAT PIECE OF CRAP WAS 1000 times better than what is now. I cant believe it. I dont WANT to believe it. A boring ass f***ing Apple logo with that FU**ING THROBBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, it is a cosmetic thing only. It has no negative effect on the usability of System 10.2. But this is no small deal. This is a tragedy. A foul thing that has been done to the Macintosh. Im not about to not upgrade to Jaguar because of it, but that doesnt mean I cant dis-like it immensly and accept it.
And you know what? All you people that claim its OK . . . you disgust me. All of you. How can you be so stupid? Really . . . its amazing. Im convinced that if Apple introduced a bag of lettuce as an update to the PowerMac line, some of you idiots would justify it.
"Its organic. And this is a characteristic that makes Apple more modern."
"Maybe someday, it could support DNA processing, and thus blow Wintel out of the water forever!"
or . . wait . . . heres the one I just want to hurl at: "If you dont like it, go buy a Wintel computer."
This is a tragedy on SO MANY DIFFERENT AND SIGNIFICANT LEVELS. This shouldnt--and cant-- stand.
I am a Mac-user. I would really like to continue using a Macintosh. I was not some NeXT/UNIX clown before OS X. Now that Apple has applied the wonders of Macintosh to UNIX and NeXT, I have learned to love NeXT and UNIX. But, take away the Mac element, and I am reduced to being the NeXT/UNIX clown that I would never have been by choice. Oh, God . . . here goes a rant to Apple. :eek: :eek:
opinion: That which is opined; a notion or conviction founded on probable evidence; belief stronger than impression, less strong than positive knowledge;
<strong>There are only two elements of the Macintosh experience that are truly holy and sacred.</strong><hr></blockquote>
There is nothing holy or sacred about a computer. That's just plain silly (and arbitrary). There are far more important things to be concerned about -- like actually using the thing.
Right on Mac OS X, the one with the lettuce... that is exactly the impression I've been getting of late in my voyages along the manifold macintosh forums.
Mac OS X, grow up, writing a letter like that to Apple is just going to get your email printed out and put on the 'read this and laugh your butt off' wall in the employee lounge.
I have been a Mac user since the beginning, hell I still have a working Mac Classic in my office to remind me where I came from. I'm all for modernization and it's people like you, who worship the holy Apple as if it was your ticket to heaven, make me sick. Yes there is a devotion to the brand name but geezus, pissin and moaning because you don't see a Mac smile at you on bootup every 30 days when you MIGHT restart? LOSER.
<strong>I don't see why many of you are over-reacting like this. The new bootup screen really looks professional because it has been kept simple.</strong><hr></blockquote>
OVERREACTING HOW DARE YOU SAY WE ARE OVER REACTING IN FACT YOUR OVER REACTING TO US OVER REACTING
Oh by the way board member "Mac OS X" get a life...no wait better yet beat urself dead with ur hockey puck mouse...twice
<strong>The Happy Mac is the most original and distinct part of the Macintosh. It is the most recognisable and recallable characteristic of the Macintosh experience. It is the the element that is a metaphor for the Macintosh like no other. It cannot be replaced.
If no one remembers here, build 6c111 (i believe its thats build) of 10.2 had an updated smiley face classic mac. It auctually looked alot better than the dull grey apple they have now. They also replaced that great looking blue beachball for the fruity colored one. Oh well, those are two really dumb mistakes apple made. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
<strong>The Happy Mac is the most original and distinct part of the Macintosh. It is the most recognisable and recallable characteristic of the Macintosh experience. It is the the element that is a metaphor for the Macintosh like no other. It cannot be replaced.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Um... heh... you *do* realize that your 'original' Happy Mac wasn't introduced until what (help me out here folks) 1988? '89? The *really* old guard around here will recall that originally it was the Picasso Mac with 'Welcome to Macintosh'.
Sorry to burst your bubble like that, but the Happy Mac was a replacement for another *truly* original logo that no one thought could be replaced.
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<strong>I think the smiling apple display from the 6c98 build was really cool... modern and personal at the same time...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Anybody have a pic of that "smiling apple"?
Escher
I always tell people "oh, well MY computer SMILES at me when I turn it on"
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Well, their computer recycles instead of trashes
I'm sure they'll find a way to change it to whatever we want.
andrew
I admit its grey (per se) but to be honest do many of your guys boot all that much???I havent done so for quite a while [Terminal: uptime: 10:12PM up 17 days, 2:48, 2 users, load averages: 0.41, 0.26, 0.15]
<strong>OT:
How do you make a count down clock in quicktime?
thats cool
e-mail Greg Gilman @apple.com and find out
This, along with the new updated 'design' for the PowerMac, is the kind of crap that makes me hate Apple. (Have I already made my rant about this? Apologies if I have . . . meh . . . I dont really even care, actually . . . this is that bad.
There are only two elements of the Macintosh experience that are truly holy and sacred. These elements are the Apple Menu and the Happy Mac.
In early builds of System 10, Apple had robbed and sucked the life out of the Mac OS by ripping out the Apple Menu and putting a functionless Apple logo in the middle of the title bar. . . . this was just so unbelievably retarded, its almost uncomprehendable. Someone finally slapped Steve in the head, and the Apple Menu returned to its rightful place as a constant and stronghold of the Macintosh as a concept and a brand.
People . . . this is worse than that, IMHO. The Happy Mac is the most original and distinct part of the Macintosh. It is the most recognisable and recallable characteristic of the Macintosh experience. It is the the element that is a metaphor for the Macintosh like no other. It cannot be replaced.
Now, evolution is fine. Theres nothing wrong with that. Although there are some minor things about Aqua that really do suck, it is none-the-less a significant jump in the evolution of the Macintosh GUI, and a beautiful one at that. The Happy Face, in all its glory, has remained stagnant and obsolete. It has not evolved. This is a problem.
Mac OS X should have had and should have the Happy Face updated to the Aqua theme. Trash that damn grey background for Aqua blue. Re-do that awesome little Happy Mac in 128x128xAlpha beauty. Have some animation, maybe. Maybe have 'hello' (or, the equivalent of 'hello' for other languages) flash after a 2 or 3 second delay.
Hmmm . . . but, no. We were complaining about the 'disfigured, maimed Happy Face'! LOL! EVEN THAT PIECE OF CRAP WAS 1000 times better than what is now. I cant believe it. I dont WANT to believe it. A boring ass f***ing Apple logo with that FU**ING THROBBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, it is a cosmetic thing only. It has no negative effect on the usability of System 10.2. But this is no small deal. This is a tragedy. A foul thing that has been done to the Macintosh. Im not about to not upgrade to Jaguar because of it, but that doesnt mean I cant dis-like it immensly and accept it.
And you know what? All you people that claim its OK . . . you disgust me. All of you. How can you be so stupid? Really . . . its amazing. Im convinced that if Apple introduced a bag of lettuce as an update to the PowerMac line, some of you idiots would justify it.
"Its organic. And this is a characteristic that makes Apple more modern."
"Maybe someday, it could support DNA processing, and thus blow Wintel out of the water forever!"
or . . wait . . . heres the one I just want to hurl at: "If you dont like it, go buy a Wintel computer."
This is a tragedy on SO MANY DIFFERENT AND SIGNIFICANT LEVELS. This shouldnt--and cant-- stand.
I am a Mac-user. I would really like to continue using a Macintosh. I was not some NeXT/UNIX clown before OS X. Now that Apple has applied the wonders of Macintosh to UNIX and NeXT, I have learned to love NeXT and UNIX. But, take away the Mac element, and I am reduced to being the NeXT/UNIX clown that I would never have been by choice. Oh, God . . . here goes a rant to Apple. :eek:
Mac OS X
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..Rant..</strong><hr></blockquote>
Your opinion is duly noted.
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<strong>There are only two elements of the Macintosh experience that are truly holy and sacred.</strong><hr></blockquote>
There is nothing holy or sacred about a computer. That's just plain silly (and arbitrary). There are far more important things to be concerned about -- like actually using the thing.
<strong>if Apple introduced a bag of lettuce as an update to the PowerMac line, some of you idiots would justify it.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Doesn't this thread belong in Future Hardware now?
I have been a Mac user since the beginning, hell I still have a working Mac Classic in my office to remind me where I came from. I'm all for modernization and it's people like you, who worship the holy Apple as if it was your ticket to heaven, make me sick. Yes there is a devotion to the brand name but geezus, pissin and moaning because you don't see a Mac smile at you on bootup every 30 days when you MIGHT restart? LOSER.
Mac Guru
<strong>I don't see why many of you are over-reacting like this. The new bootup screen really looks professional because it has been kept simple.</strong><hr></blockquote>
OVERREACTING HOW DARE YOU SAY WE ARE OVER REACTING IN FACT YOUR OVER REACTING TO US OVER REACTING
Oh by the way board member "Mac OS X" get a life...no wait better yet beat urself dead with ur hockey puck mouse...twice
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<strong>The Happy Mac is the most original and distinct part of the Macintosh. It is the most recognisable and recallable characteristic of the Macintosh experience. It is the the element that is a metaphor for the Macintosh like no other. It cannot be replaced.
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<strong>The Happy Mac is the most original and distinct part of the Macintosh. It is the most recognisable and recallable characteristic of the Macintosh experience. It is the the element that is a metaphor for the Macintosh like no other. It cannot be replaced.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Um... heh... you *do* realize that your 'original' Happy Mac wasn't introduced until what (help me out here folks) 1988? '89? The *really* old guard around here will recall that originally it was the Picasso Mac with 'Welcome to Macintosh'.
Sorry to burst your bubble like that, but the Happy Mac was a replacement for another *truly* original logo that no one thought could be replaced.
Feh. Kids these days.