So I pay US 830.00 for a device that can be replaced for a mere US 100.00, and all's Even -Steven - \
Would you rather send your device in and wait the likely several weeks it would take to actually refurb that unit, rather than swap out for a different unit with a new case and glass?
Edit: and what your post should have said is "a device that can be refurbished for a mere US 100.00," to be accurate.
huh? You GET another iPad...you do know that? The only difference is it has a new battery. In all likelihood, you get a NEW iPad. How is that a bad deal? Really...
No one ever said that it 'was a bad deal', but it does lead one to believe that the very same device one pays some US 500.00 to 830.00 actually only has a value of US 100.00, given that that's all it cost to replace the entire device.
No one ever said that it 'was a bad deal', but it does lead one to believe that the very same device one pays some US 500.00 to 830.00 actually only has a value of US 100.00, given that that's all it cost to replace the entire device.
It's As Simple As That
Uh, no I don't think it means that. I think it means that from Apple's point of view, its cheaper to take your old iPad, give you one with a new battery, replace the battery on your's and sell it refub than to take apart the case and put a new battery. It's probably saves money, and it's a hell of a lot more convenient.
A new "battery", even though it means a different device, is a ripoff at over $100.
The only way for this devices to be as slim and yield such long battery life is to have an integrated battery, there's simply no other way to do this with a replaceable battery. So your point is irrelevant.
No one ever said that it 'was a bad deal', but it does lead one to believe that the very same device one pays some US 500.00 to 830.00 actually only has a value of US 100.00, given that that's all it cost to replace the entire device.
It's As Simple As That
That would be true if you didn't have to send back the device. It is silly to think the device only cost a $100 to make, we already knew from the tear down how much it cost in parts...$219 (wifi) and $289 (3G) by the current estimate.
Uh, no I don't think it means that. I think it means that from Apple's point of view, its cheaper to take your old iPad, give you one with a new battery, replace the battery on your's and sell it refub than to take apart the case and put a new battery. It's probably saves money, and it's a hell of a lot more convenient.
Well technically, I think all the program is doing is reducing the lead time between when you send in your device and when you get it back. They are still refurb'ing the same number of units. Just this way you don't have to wait while they do it.
No one ever said that it 'was a bad deal', but it does lead one to believe that the very same device one pays some US 500.00 to 830.00 actually only has a value of US 100.00, given that that's all it cost to replace the entire device.
It's As Simple As That
WAKE UP! They are going to be reselling these devices, it's not that they only want 100 for a new ipad with a new battery and they chuck the old ones away.
As someone said, it's all about the logistics of sending the items in bulk back to china to be serviced. The replacement is going to be one of these refurbished products from China, and your ipad will be subsequently send back to China to be fixed and given as replacement to others.
WAKE UP! They are going to be reselling these devices, it's not that they only want 100 for a new ipad with a new battery and they chuck the old ones away.
As someone said, it's all about the logistics of sending the items in bulk back to china to be serviced. The replacement is going to be one of these refurbished products from China, and your ipad will be subsequently send back to China to be fixed and given as replacement to others.
No one said that they were 'chucking them away', (that was your misinterpretation of what was posted) - only that it leads one to believe that the actual value of the device is but US 100.00 regardless of features/capacity, which it certainly does -
No one said that they were 'chucking them away', (that was your misinterpretation of what was posted) - only that it leads one to believe that the actual value of the device is but US 100.00 regardless of features/capacity -
So you are saying that the average consumer actually believes that their device that they send in to Apple HQ has lost all of its value simply because the battery is dead.
huh? You GET another iPad...you do know that? The only difference is it has a new battery. In all likelihood, you get a NEW iPad. How is that a bad deal? Really...
You don't know if you will get a new iPad. If initially, if there aren't any refurbs, then you will get a new one, but as time goes on you will probably get a refurb; unless there were warranty issues, then you might get a new one.
Read my other post--Apple has been fair to me about repairs.
They do this for all their products. It's just the standard operating procedure. It's so that you know what to expect when the battery eventudally stops holding a charge. There are no issues with the battery.
Agreed. With the iPad having a built in battery, Apple is addressing concerns that it will replace batteries. If it had an exchangeable battery like the older MBP and MB this would not be an issue.
So you are saying that the average consumer actually believes that their device that they send in to Apple HQ has lost all of its value simply because the battery is dead.
Yes, people can be dumb but that is a stretch.
Nope... Just that the hardware was never actually worth US 500.00 to 830.00 in the first place if it can so readily be replaced for US 100.00.
No one said that they were 'chucking them away', (that was your misinterpretation of what was posted) - only that it leads one to believe that the actual value of the device is but US 100.00 regardless of features/capacity, which it certainly does -
Yes it leads ONE to believe... and that ONE is you. Other people know how business works.
Nope... Just that the hardware was never actually worth US 500.00 to 830.00 in the first place if it can so readily be replaced for US 100.00.
It's Really That Simple -
It is clear you are not interested in having a discussion about it. But as everyone else has been saying, this process has been the SOP on all the iDevices for years and clearly it is not affecting consumers' willingness to pay full price for them.
Apple reminds you to sync your info before you send the device in for service.
Hmmm... battery dead? Sync that thing! Then send it in. Right.
We all know that absolutely all Apple employees would never be involved in harvesting personal data.
'Never' is somewhat absolute. Not been an issue for a lot of, or most, people... is perhaps more accurate. It's an issue for at least 9% in the one survey and they probably haven't even had a failure yet... or else 9% -have- had a failure.
Anyone think they're not going to get a refurbed replacement unit? Or that Apple won't make a small profit on the $100+ exchange?
So slim it can't be replaceable? another absolute. If I had to choose between an extra millimeter or three, and a replaceable battery... I'd choose replaceable. We're not talking about .25 inch vs 1.25 inch, or 3 ozs vs 30. If I had to send it in for $100 replacement... I'd be looking at competing devices.
The only way for this devices to be as slim and yield such long battery life is to have an integrated battery, there's simply no other way to do this with a replaceable battery. So your point is irrelevant.
With the unibody MBP the design of the internal battery removing all of the structure needed for exchangeable batteries allowed for a larger battery with longer battery life.
Uh, no I don't think it means that. I think it means that from Apple's point of view, its cheaper to take your old iPad, give you one with a new battery, replace the battery on your's and sell it refub than to take apart the case and put a new battery. It's probably saves money, and it's a hell of a lot more convenient.
....and faster.
The 'week' is just to cover their a** for the back-and-forth shipping time. It'll probably be much sooner than that.
WAKE UP! They are going to be reselling these devices, it's not that they only want 100 for a new ipad with a new battery and they chuck the old ones away.
As someone said, it's all about the logistics of sending the items in bulk back to china to be serviced. The replacement is going to be one of these refurbished products from China, and your ipad will be subsequently send back to China to be fixed and given as replacement to others.
Giving him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he didn't comprehend what he read and thinks that you get to keep your original iPad, because that is the only way his comment would make any sense. However, he's likely just trolling so it's best we don't respose to his asinine comments.
The 'week' is just to cover their a** for the back-and-forth shipping time. It'll probably be much sooner than that.
It would be really cool if you could just walk into the Apple store, and walk out with a new device. Maybe they will stock some refurbs at local stores when possible so this could be done.
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So I pay US 830.00 for a device that can be replaced for a mere US 100.00, and all's Even -Steven -
Would you rather send your device in and wait the likely several weeks it would take to actually refurb that unit, rather than swap out for a different unit with a new case and glass?
Edit: and what your post should have said is "a device that can be refurbished for a mere US 100.00," to be accurate.
huh? You GET another iPad...you do know that? The only difference is it has a new battery. In all likelihood, you get a NEW iPad. How is that a bad deal? Really...
No one ever said that it 'was a bad deal', but it does lead one to believe that the very same device one pays some US 500.00 to 830.00 actually only has a value of US 100.00, given that that's all it cost to replace the entire device.
It's As Simple As That
No one ever said that it 'was a bad deal', but it does lead one to believe that the very same device one pays some US 500.00 to 830.00 actually only has a value of US 100.00, given that that's all it cost to replace the entire device.
It's As Simple As That
Uh, no I don't think it means that. I think it means that from Apple's point of view, its cheaper to take your old iPad, give you one with a new battery, replace the battery on your's and sell it refub than to take apart the case and put a new battery. It's probably saves money, and it's a hell of a lot more convenient.
The lack of a replaceable battery strikes again.
A new "battery", even though it means a different device, is a ripoff at over $100.
The only way for this devices to be as slim and yield such long battery life is to have an integrated battery, there's simply no other way to do this with a replaceable battery. So your point is irrelevant.
To You...
To a lot of people.
http://www.mediapost.com/publication...art_aid=105192
http://www.tipb.com/2009/08/14/iphon...-satisfaction/
http://iphone.tmcnet.com/topics/ipho...ction-2008.htm
No problem.
No one ever said that it 'was a bad deal', but it does lead one to believe that the very same device one pays some US 500.00 to 830.00 actually only has a value of US 100.00, given that that's all it cost to replace the entire device.
It's As Simple As That
That would be true if you didn't have to send back the device. It is silly to think the device only cost a $100 to make, we already knew from the tear down how much it cost in parts...$219 (wifi) and $289 (3G) by the current estimate.
Uh, no I don't think it means that. I think it means that from Apple's point of view, its cheaper to take your old iPad, give you one with a new battery, replace the battery on your's and sell it refub than to take apart the case and put a new battery. It's probably saves money, and it's a hell of a lot more convenient.
Well technically, I think all the program is doing is reducing the lead time between when you send in your device and when you get it back. They are still refurb'ing the same number of units. Just this way you don't have to wait while they do it.
No one ever said that it 'was a bad deal', but it does lead one to believe that the very same device one pays some US 500.00 to 830.00 actually only has a value of US 100.00, given that that's all it cost to replace the entire device.
It's As Simple As That
WAKE UP! They are going to be reselling these devices, it's not that they only want 100 for a new ipad with a new battery and they chuck the old ones away.
As someone said, it's all about the logistics of sending the items in bulk back to china to be serviced. The replacement is going to be one of these refurbished products from China, and your ipad will be subsequently send back to China to be fixed and given as replacement to others.
WAKE UP! They are going to be reselling these devices, it's not that they only want 100 for a new ipad with a new battery and they chuck the old ones away.
As someone said, it's all about the logistics of sending the items in bulk back to china to be serviced. The replacement is going to be one of these refurbished products from China, and your ipad will be subsequently send back to China to be fixed and given as replacement to others.
No one said that they were 'chucking them away', (that was your misinterpretation of what was posted) - only that it leads one to believe that the actual value of the device is but US 100.00 regardless of features/capacity, which it certainly does -
No one said that they were 'chucking them away', (that was your misinterpretation of what was posted) - only that it leads one to believe that the actual value of the device is but US 100.00 regardless of features/capacity -
So you are saying that the average consumer actually believes that their device that they send in to Apple HQ has lost all of its value simply because the battery is dead.
Yes, people can be dumb but that is a stretch.
huh? You GET another iPad...you do know that? The only difference is it has a new battery. In all likelihood, you get a NEW iPad. How is that a bad deal? Really...
You don't know if you will get a new iPad. If initially, if there aren't any refurbs, then you will get a new one, but as time goes on you will probably get a refurb; unless there were warranty issues, then you might get a new one.
Read my other post--Apple has been fair to me about repairs.
They do this for all their products. It's just the standard operating procedure. It's so that you know what to expect when the battery eventudally stops holding a charge. There are no issues with the battery.
Agreed. With the iPad having a built in battery, Apple is addressing concerns that it will replace batteries. If it had an exchangeable battery like the older MBP and MB this would not be an issue.
So you are saying that the average consumer actually believes that their device that they send in to Apple HQ has lost all of its value simply because the battery is dead.
Yes, people can be dumb but that is a stretch.
Nope... Just that the hardware was never actually worth US 500.00 to 830.00 in the first place if it can so readily be replaced for US 100.00.
It's Really That Simple -
No one said that they were 'chucking them away', (that was your misinterpretation of what was posted) - only that it leads one to believe that the actual value of the device is but US 100.00 regardless of features/capacity, which it certainly does -
Yes it leads ONE to believe... and that ONE is you. Other people know how business works.
Nope... Just that the hardware was never actually worth US 500.00 to 830.00 in the first place if it can so readily be replaced for US 100.00.
It's Really That Simple -
It is clear you are not interested in having a discussion about it. But as everyone else has been saying, this process has been the SOP on all the iDevices for years and clearly it is not affecting consumers' willingness to pay full price for them.
Hmmm... battery dead? Sync that thing! Then send it in. Right.
We all know that absolutely all Apple employees would never be involved in harvesting personal data.
'Never' is somewhat absolute. Not been an issue for a lot of, or most, people... is perhaps more accurate. It's an issue for at least 9% in the one survey and they probably haven't even had a failure yet... or else 9% -have- had a failure.
Anyone think they're not going to get a refurbed replacement unit? Or that Apple won't make a small profit on the $100+ exchange?
So slim it can't be replaceable? another absolute. If I had to choose between an extra millimeter or three, and a replaceable battery... I'd choose replaceable. We're not talking about .25 inch vs 1.25 inch, or 3 ozs vs 30. If I had to send it in for $100 replacement... I'd be looking at competing devices.
This isn't a selling point, so not very smart.
The only way for this devices to be as slim and yield such long battery life is to have an integrated battery, there's simply no other way to do this with a replaceable battery. So your point is irrelevant.
With the unibody MBP the design of the internal battery removing all of the structure needed for exchangeable batteries allowed for a larger battery with longer battery life.
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/features.html
click on "Breakthrough Battery"
Uh, no I don't think it means that. I think it means that from Apple's point of view, its cheaper to take your old iPad, give you one with a new battery, replace the battery on your's and sell it refub than to take apart the case and put a new battery. It's probably saves money, and it's a hell of a lot more convenient.
....and faster.
The 'week' is just to cover their a** for the back-and-forth shipping time. It'll probably be much sooner than that.
WAKE UP! They are going to be reselling these devices, it's not that they only want 100 for a new ipad with a new battery and they chuck the old ones away.
As someone said, it's all about the logistics of sending the items in bulk back to china to be serviced. The replacement is going to be one of these refurbished products from China, and your ipad will be subsequently send back to China to be fixed and given as replacement to others.
Giving him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he didn't comprehend what he read and thinks that you get to keep your original iPad, because that is the only way his comment would make any sense. However, he's likely just trolling so it's best we don't respose to his asinine comments.
....and faster.
The 'week' is just to cover their a** for the back-and-forth shipping time. It'll probably be much sooner than that.
It would be really cool if you could just walk into the Apple store, and walk out with a new device.