Correct. However, seeing as the American average unique words in one's daily vocabulary has gone from just over 1800 back in 1900 to just over 200 back in 2000 and the average knowledge of pure and applied mathematics and physics have suffered a similar slide it's no wonder it feels like this country is sliding back into the dark ages.
In 1900, a substantial number of Americans were worked like farm animals, living in factory towns and making starvation wages. Do your stats include them? Or are you talking about White America?
And today's stats - are you including the substantial number of ESL folks in there?
Or do you just make this shit up without knowing the basis for your "facts"?
Even while standing still with a bumpered iPhone 4, I've seen signal fluctuate wildly in San Francisco. That's "wildly" as in going from no signal, to a few bars maybe with EDGE or maybe with no data at all, to 5 bars with 3G. .
"Jef Raskin remembers: "[Jobs] would try to push himself into everything. No matter what you were doing, he had to have something to do with it. Nobody at Apple wanted him involved with their projects. I had started the Macintosh team and we didn't want him either. The standard way [Jobs] operated was picking your brain. He would immediately poo-poo the idea, then a week later, he'd come back and say, 'Hey, I've got a great idea!' The idea that he gave back to you was your own. We called him the Reality Distortion Field."
@ all the joksters on this thread. There is no other forum I frequent that so often has well informed memebers capable of a mature debate that can all make so many comments that I'm literally trying not to spit coffee from laughing. Good week so far.
I have terrible VZ coverage at my house so I have basically the same problem (not a Droid 2) but it's not that big of a deal. Just don't hold it that way. Seriously. These are amazing devices and all you have to do to avoid problems is not cover the antenna. How hard is that really? When I hear people complain about this stuff I get the mental image of a fussy 2 year old or something.
But when iPhone users said the same thing a few weeks ago, we were criticized incessantly.
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I've got $500 saying the national news and the vast majority of local news outlets will not pounce on this or even mention it in passing. It's not that the media is unfair to Apple, it's that nobody really gives a damn about Android.
Of course they won't make a big deal out of it. They like to bash Apple. AT MOST, they' have a very brief comment.
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Didn't motorola/verizon run an add saying they DIDN'T have any issues. Tut tut tut
It was a stupid ad for them to run, anyway. Even when they ran it, there was plenty of evidence that their phones were affected.
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where the only thing that makes any sense is to have a phone from AT&T, Verizon and US Celluar. Then you can get reception it's about anywhere, but NOT everywhere.
They never had this problem on Star Trek. Why can't we use their communicators?
Apple is right; this problem is a matter of 'unsettled science.' Whole divisions of companies (and entire companies themselves) are approaching the issue from different perspectives because the scientific problem hasn't yet been 'solved.' People know this, which is why the number of iPhones coming back is tiny.
Actually, sounds like a different issue. My guess would be a simple software update could resolve this issue, though strange that it would not have been caught before release of the device.
Curious how the screen is on the Droid 2, I know Droid X had like one of the worst touch screen ratings out there.
And today's stats - are you including the substantial number of ESL folks in there?
Immigration in per capita terms in 1900 was much higher than it is for 2010. So, ESL is irrelevant here.
Society is getting stupider. Kids in high school now don't know their multiplication tables so even asking them to do long division by hand is a non-starter. Technology does make people dumber largely because they think technology inherently makes them smarter. All you have to do is read the SMS-style English term paper kids are handing in. Ask kids where water comes from and they say "the tap." I know, I know, each generation says the one that is following is getting worse and we sometimes overromanticize previous generations but c'mon, you have to be blind not to have noticed the long-term trends.
Our society is getting overreliant on "bulls**t technology" like Twitter and Facebook.
How ironic that smart phones have been so far developed that they have HD video, high res-photography, thousands upon thousands of apps, and a touch screen interface -- yet even my old Treo 650 and my Dad's old Nokia grayscale phone (6150?) that he has remained so dedicated to and has stocked back-ups of this phone purchased from eBay, both have fewer "reception issues" than these high-tech iPhones and Droids. I am assuming this is because these phones have little antenna nubs on the top of them which are not covered by your hands in normal usage.
Stop sacrificing quality and function for appearance! I am picked on sometimes for having a "bulky" cell phone because it's not the "latest thing" and my Treo is just so incredibly large. But you know what? It works. I tried my darnedest the other day to see if I could get my signal to drop by putting my hands in various places on my phone. I could only get my signal to drop by turning the phone upside down and putting both hands around the antenna portion.
But hey, what do I know? I'm just an old fuddy duddy who still uses a $29.95 grandfather plan from the inception of Cingular.
Immigration in per capita terms in 1900 was much higher than it is for 2010. So, ESL is irrelevant here.
Society is getting stupider. Kids in high school now don't know their multiplication tables so even asking them to do long division by hand is a non-starter. Technology does make people dumber largely because they think technology inherently makes them smarter. All you have to do is read the SMS-style English term paper kids are handing in. Ask kids where water comes from and they say "the tap." I know, I know, each generation says the one that is following is getting worse and we sometimes overromanticize previous generations but c'mon, you have to be blind not to have noticed the long-term trends.
Our society is getting overreliant on "bulls**t technology" like Twitter and Facebook.
Immigration in per capita terms in 1900 was much higher than it is for 2010. So, ESL is irrelevant here.
Society is getting stupider. Kids in high school now don't know their multiplication tables so even asking them to do long division by hand is a non-starter. Technology does make people dumber largely because they think technology inherently makes them smarter. All you have to do is read the SMS-style English term paper kids are handing in. Ask kids where water comes from and they say "the tap." I know, I know, each generation says the one that is following is getting worse and we sometimes overromanticize previous generations but c'mon, you have to be blind not to have noticed the long-term trends.
Our society is getting overreliant on "bulls**t technology" like Twitter and Facebook.
Yeah, and the years are passing ever so quickly! Christmas seems like yesterday!! Now now please make your self a nice cup of coffee and relax a little in your couch. And don't forget to put that cushion in your back, as well as the wool blanket on your legs.
Even while standing still with a bumpered iPhone 4, I've seen signal fluctuate wildly in San Francisco. That's "wildly" as in going from no signal, to a few bars maybe with EDGE or maybe with no data at all, to 5 bars with 3G. Even with 5 bars and 3G, the Internet would sometimes be completely unresponsive. Rebooting did not help. It's ridiculous. I understand now what SF residents have been complaining about with AT&T. Never have I experienced such trouble in other metropolitan areas I've lived in or visited. Verizon users, now that there are more than just a few of you using cellular data, welcome to the club. But at least you don't have to worry about the death touch like with the iPhone 4.
Well... San Francisco is a special place and there is a special something in the air...
Technology does make people dumber largely because they think technology inherently makes them smarter. *It really does.
I checked Wikipedia, your wrong.
Seriously though, I haven't read any studies that show any correlation between a lowing intelligence and technology usage. Everything show humans progressing faster because of technology, not inspite of.
If you are referring to knowledge and not one basic ability to learn, I haven't read anything on that either, but I have noticed that each new generation deems different things important so while you might find it egregious that less kids know where Istanbul is on a map they do seem to know more complex concepts at a younger age. I'd say these are more important traits.
I bet there was a time, not too long ago, when not knowing how to hunt or farm made you look like a lazy idiot, and any concepts or ideas you had about the world we now take for granted were best left unspoken or else you'd seem even dumber. I'm sure there are some famous examples out there.
Frankly speaking, I don't consider rote memorization an accurate measure for intelligence and I have to wonder if it's as necessary in this digital age of highly accessible information. I'll conclude with a quote from Einstein, "Never memorize what you can look up in books."
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Correct. However, seeing as the American average unique words in one's daily vocabulary has gone from just over 1800 back in 1900 to just over 200 back in 2000 and the average knowledge of pure and applied mathematics and physics have suffered a similar slide it's no wonder it feels like this country is sliding back into the dark ages.
In 1900, a substantial number of Americans were worked like farm animals, living in factory towns and making starvation wages. Do your stats include them? Or are you talking about White America?
And today's stats - are you including the substantial number of ESL folks in there?
Or do you just make this shit up without knowing the basis for your "facts"?
Even while standing still with a bumpered iPhone 4, I've seen signal fluctuate wildly in San Francisco. That's "wildly" as in going from no signal, to a few bars maybe with EDGE or maybe with no data at all, to 5 bars with 3G. .
That is an industry-wide problem.
Looks like Steve was precisely correct, as usual.
"Jef Raskin remembers: "[Jobs] would try to push himself into everything. No matter what you were doing, he had to have something to do with it. Nobody at Apple wanted him involved with their projects. I had started the Macintosh team and we didn't want him either. The standard way [Jobs] operated was picking your brain. He would immediately poo-poo the idea, then a week later, he'd come back and say, 'Hey, I've got a great idea!' The idea that he gave back to you was your own. We called him the Reality Distortion Field."
Until I can reproduce it, it is something that is non-existant.
That is the way most smokers feel about lung cancer. Good for you!
Nobody loves Android the way we love Apple.
Damn straight. I'm yet to meet an Android owner that acts like they would love to bone their phone.
I have terrible VZ coverage at my house so I have basically the same problem (not a Droid 2) but it's not that big of a deal. Just don't hold it that way. Seriously. These are amazing devices and all you have to do to avoid problems is not cover the antenna. How hard is that really? When I hear people complain about this stuff I get the mental image of a fussy 2 year old or something.
But when iPhone users said the same thing a few weeks ago, we were criticized incessantly.
I've got $500 saying the national news and the vast majority of local news outlets will not pounce on this or even mention it in passing. It's not that the media is unfair to Apple, it's that nobody really gives a damn about Android.
Of course they won't make a big deal out of it. They like to bash Apple. AT MOST, they' have a very brief comment.
Didn't motorola/verizon run an add saying they DIDN'T have any issues. Tut tut tut
It was a stupid ad for them to run, anyway. Even when they ran it, there was plenty of evidence that their phones were affected.
where the only thing that makes any sense is to have a phone from AT&T, Verizon and US Celluar. Then you can get reception it's about anywhere, but NOT everywhere.
They never had this problem on Star Trek. Why can't we use their communicators?
Apple is right; this problem is a matter of 'unsettled science.' Whole divisions of companies (and entire companies themselves) are approaching the issue from different perspectives because the scientific problem hasn't yet been 'solved.' People know this, which is why the number of iPhones coming back is tiny.
Actually, sounds like a different issue. My guess would be a simple software update could resolve this issue, though strange that it would not have been caught before release of the device.
Curious how the screen is on the Droid 2, I know Droid X had like one of the worst touch screen ratings out there.
And today's stats - are you including the substantial number of ESL folks in there?
Immigration in per capita terms in 1900 was much higher than it is for 2010. So, ESL is irrelevant here.
Society is getting stupider. Kids in high school now don't know their multiplication tables so even asking them to do long division by hand is a non-starter. Technology does make people dumber largely because they think technology inherently makes them smarter. All you have to do is read the SMS-style English term paper kids are handing in. Ask kids where water comes from and they say "the tap." I know, I know, each generation says the one that is following is getting worse and we sometimes overromanticize previous generations but c'mon, you have to be blind not to have noticed the long-term trends.
Our society is getting overreliant on "bulls**t technology" like Twitter and Facebook.
Stop sacrificing quality and function for appearance! I am picked on sometimes for having a "bulky" cell phone because it's not the "latest thing" and my Treo is just so incredibly large. But you know what? It works. I tried my darnedest the other day to see if I could get my signal to drop by putting my hands in various places on my phone. I could only get my signal to drop by turning the phone upside down and putting both hands around the antenna portion.
But hey, what do I know? I'm just an old fuddy duddy who still uses a $29.95 grandfather plan from the inception of Cingular.
Think different.
Immigration in per capita terms in 1900 was much higher than it is for 2010. So, ESL is irrelevant here.
Society is getting stupider. Kids in high school now don't know their multiplication tables so even asking them to do long division by hand is a non-starter. Technology does make people dumber largely because they think technology inherently makes them smarter. All you have to do is read the SMS-style English term paper kids are handing in. Ask kids where water comes from and they say "the tap." I know, I know, each generation says the one that is following is getting worse and we sometimes overromanticize previous generations but c'mon, you have to be blind not to have noticed the long-term trends.
Our society is getting overreliant on "bulls**t technology" like Twitter and Facebook.
Great points, Patrickwalker. I agree!
Immigration in per capita terms in 1900 was much higher than it is for 2010. So, ESL is irrelevant here.
Society is getting stupider. Kids in high school now don't know their multiplication tables so even asking them to do long division by hand is a non-starter. Technology does make people dumber largely because they think technology inherently makes them smarter. All you have to do is read the SMS-style English term paper kids are handing in. Ask kids where water comes from and they say "the tap." I know, I know, each generation says the one that is following is getting worse and we sometimes overromanticize previous generations but c'mon, you have to be blind not to have noticed the long-term trends.
Our society is getting overreliant on "bulls**t technology" like Twitter and Facebook.
Yeah, and the years are passing ever so quickly! Christmas seems like yesterday!! Now now please make your self a nice cup of coffee and relax a little in your couch. And don't forget to put that cushion in your back, as well as the wool blanket on your legs.
Even while standing still with a bumpered iPhone 4, I've seen signal fluctuate wildly in San Francisco. That's "wildly" as in going from no signal, to a few bars maybe with EDGE or maybe with no data at all, to 5 bars with 3G. Even with 5 bars and 3G, the Internet would sometimes be completely unresponsive. Rebooting did not help. It's ridiculous. I understand now what SF residents have been complaining about with AT&T. Never have I experienced such trouble in other metropolitan areas I've lived in or visited. Verizon users, now that there are more than just a few of you using cellular data, welcome to the club. But at least you don't have to worry about the death touch like with the iPhone 4.
Well... San Francisco is a special place and there is a special something in the air...
...quite a lot of special somethings, actually!
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Everyone who adds part of the name of a hotel that was involved in a scandal over 30 years ago to an unrelated issue is an idiot.
If you don't like using hotel names from 30 years ago, why not double down and call it:
Droid-Flamingo?
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Technology does make people dumber largely because they think technology inherently makes them smarter. *It really does.
I checked Wikipedia, your wrong.
Seriously though, I haven't read any studies that show any correlation between a lowing intelligence and technology usage. Everything show humans progressing faster because of technology, not inspite of.
If you are referring to knowledge and not one basic ability to learn, I haven't read anything on that either, but I have noticed that each new generation deems different things important so while you might find it egregious that less kids know where Istanbul is on a map they do seem to know more complex concepts at a younger age. I'd say these are more important traits.
I bet there was a time, not too long ago, when not knowing how to hunt or farm made you look like a lazy idiot, and any concepts or ideas you had about the world we now take for granted were best left unspoken or else you'd seem even dumber. I'm sure there are some famous examples out there.
Frankly speaking, I don't consider rote memorization an accurate measure for intelligence and I have to wonder if it's as necessary in this digital age of highly accessible information. I'll conclude with a quote from Einstein, "Never memorize what you can look up in books."