I'm not quite sure what that photo proves. It doesn't show all of your activity over that period. It's also so far from what legit tests have shown, that it's just more than a bit odd.
'Odd' or not... The pics clearly show that I'm getting very good battery life from my Galaxy Nexus, and it's consistent with just the minor optimization previously posted.
Here's another one from when I first started exploring ways to increase to battery life: roughly 34.5 hours with 24% remaining under moderate use e.g normal calling, texting, light web surfing/FaceBook/Twitter.
Oh Well... I'm Happy!
Now where were we on this whole 'lock screen' issue?
I've often wondered what the tinkering is intended to achieve. Is the end point some actual enhanced functionality or just non-standard personalization of the interface? Or something else again? Is it worth the effort?
For me anyway it begins as a novelty. Something fun that you can. You find all kinds of different rom to flash that give certain enhancements depending on the developer that cooked the rom. My experience was that the novelty wore off after a while and it just was too much work. But to each his own...for some guys it is a sickness! :-)
A question judge ask a designer if he/she had copy another's idea: Did you see/know about the patented product before you designed the "copied product?" Can Samsung's designers honestly answer that question?
What, exactly, constitutes 'rather heavy use'? I'm curious because that's exceptional battery life.
Numerous calls, texts, web surfing, FaceBook postings, Twitter and the occasional web search etc.and... Yes, I'm very impressed with the battery life as well.
"A question judge ask a designer if he/she had copy another's idea: Did you see/know about the patented product before you designed the "copied product?" Can Samsung's designers honestly answer that question?"
Seriously Now... Only Samsung's engineers can answer such a question.
The concept of going after a manufacturer for this purpose, even though the OS was written by another, is common practice, and is perfectly legal all over the world. MS is going after manufacturers of Android devices even though the OS is by Google. This is no different.
Wow..I never thought of it that way. That is a very good point. But the difference is MS just wants the $$$$ they get from licensing......Apple has NO intention of licensing ANYTHING if they win any of the multitude of lawsuits. They have said they want to kill Android outright.
Numerous calls, texts, web surfing, FaceBook postings, Twitter and the occasional web search etc.and... Yes, I'm very impressed with the battery life as well.
That's absolutely meaningless. From the image it looks about 35% of the power was used when the phone was in Phone Idle or Cell Standby. And judging by the excessive battery usage of Android OS over Screen, and the image, I'm guessing you have turned your display brightness down to the lowest setting or near it.
'Odd' or not... The pics clearly show that I'm getting very good battery life from my Galaxy Nexus, and it's consistent with just the minor optimization previously posted.
Here's another one from when I first started exploring ways to increase to battery life: roughly 34.5 hours with 24% remaining under moderate use e.g normal calling, texting, light web surfing/FaceBook/Twitter.
Oh Well... I'm Happy!
Now where were we on this whole 'lock screen' issue?
That is awesome battery life!!! When I used the Nexus and my IP4s side by side for 30 days I did not get that kind of battery life. My IP4s can go almost 2 days without a charge with normal (for me anyway) use. My Nexus would only last about 14 hours with the same use. But that was experience I am sure everyone's milage will differ....
I've deduced that it's the baseband driver that is the problem. That is what is rapidly changing in the iOS 5..0.x betas for the 4S. Everyone I know seems to be fine with there 4S but I had the issue. It was bad. I tried all the home remedies and none worked. I ended up returning it when I went to replace it and they didn't have my model in stock that day. I've been keeping a close eye on iOS 5.0.x progress for the 4S and plan on getting the 4S when I feel it's suitably resolved. Chances are I would be fine with the next one I tried but I don't the luxury right now to deal with a phone dying too quickly and multiple returns to the Apple Store so I'm just waiting a bit.
Still, only a small fraction of people have the problem. If it is hardware, then it must be a small number of phones with defective chips, or something else that's causing this, along with a software interaction. The point is that it's not a design problem or all, or at least most people would have the problem.
'Odd' or not... The pics clearly show that I'm getting very good battery life from my Galaxy Nexus, and it's consistent with just the minor optimization previously posted.
Here's another one from when I first started exploring ways to increase to battery life: roughly 34.5 hours with 24% remaining under moderate use e.g normal calling, texting, light web surfing/FaceBook/Twitter.
Oh Well... I'm Happy!
Now where were we on this whole 'lock screen' issue?
I have no problem getting well over a day with moderate use, by my standard of what moderate means. Neither of us is testing under any kind of conditions that are meaningful.
That is awesome battery life!!! When I used the Nexus and my IP4s side by side for 30 days I did not get that kind of battery life. My IP4s can go almost 2 days without a charge with normal (for me anyway) use. My Nexus would only last about 14 hours with the same use. But that was experience I am sure everyone's milage will differ....
As one who uses devices running several different platforms (on a daily basis) I've become quite adept at optimizing them best for the way I use them, especially those using Android.
I find that far too many people lack the wherewithal (or ability) to do similarly, and instead just give up.
As one who uses devices running several different platforms (on a daily basis) I've become quite adept at optimizing them best for the way I use them, especially those using Android.
I find that far too many people lack the wherewithal (or ability) to do similarly, and instead just give up.
Their Loss.
You should cook up a rom with those optimizations.....you would get a ton of donations in the XDA forums.....
I have had numerous Android phones and tried just about every rom developed with optimizations intended to improve battery life. But have never gotten anywhere near 35 hours of battery life. Are you using the stock battery or is this the extended battery?
Doesn't matter. If he shows battery life that's more than twice what tests have shown to be possible, then something's fishy.
Nothing 'fishy' about... As a matter of fact, I've made two phone calls, a FaceBook Post and sent a short text message since that initial post, and still have have 32% remaining.
Anyway... You appear bent on believing what you want, even in the face of photographic evidence, so I'll leave you to that.
Just think a little. He states that he had HEAVY use. So it's really easy to interpolate from that by looking at the battery life charts.
Heavy use doesn't mean 50 one minute calls, with 30 2 minute web sessions, and a few minutes of watching video here and there.
Maybe heavy to him and heavy to you mean two different things. Perhaps he uses it as a actual phone more than a web browser. Dunno. We all use our phones differently. I haven't seen anything that makes me believe he's faked it.
The Galaxy Nexus does use slide-to-unlock but it doesn't look the same as Apple's lock.
Depending on the wording of the patent it doesn't have to look like the Apple unlock to be a violation. As I recall the wording was merely to have a preset place to unlock the device which is designated by an image that shows where to slide with perhaps words to further explain.
The courts could decide that in fact the Galaxy Nexus fits that bill and is a violation
In post 73 he explained how he optimized his battery use.
That still wouldn't account for the long battery life. IMO, that would only prevent excessive power consumption, bringing it more in the range of the benchmark or stated battery life. "Rather heavy use" with that kind of battery life is extraordinary and, therefore, doubtful, which is why I asked him to elaborate.
That still wouldn't account for the long battery life. IMO, that would only prevent excessive power consumption, bringing it more in the range of the benchmark or stated battery life. "Rather heavy use" with that kind of battery life is extraordinary and, therefore, doubtful, which is why I asked him to elaborate.
I am able to get 30 days of heavy writing out of my iPad on one charge. I achieve this by keeping it in standby and using a dry erase marker on the glass. Clearly this is the result of superior design by Apple.
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I'm not quite sure what that photo proves. It doesn't show all of your activity over that period. It's also so far from what legit tests have shown, that it's just more than a bit odd.
'Odd' or not... The pics clearly show that I'm getting very good battery life from my Galaxy Nexus, and it's consistent with just the minor optimization previously posted.
Here's another one from when I first started exploring ways to increase to battery life: roughly 34.5 hours with 24% remaining under moderate use e.g normal calling, texting, light web surfing/FaceBook/Twitter.
Oh Well... I'm Happy!
Now where were we on this whole 'lock screen' issue?
I've often wondered what the tinkering is intended to achieve. Is the end point some actual enhanced functionality or just non-standard personalization of the interface? Or something else again? Is it worth the effort?
For me anyway it begins as a novelty. Something fun that you can. You find all kinds of different rom to flash that give certain enhancements depending on the developer that cooked the rom. My experience was that the novelty wore off after a while and it just was too much work. But to each his own...for some guys it is a sickness! :-)
What, exactly, constitutes 'rather heavy use'? I'm curious because that's exceptional battery life.
Numerous calls, texts, web surfing, FaceBook postings, Twitter and the occasional web search etc.and... Yes, I'm very impressed with the battery life as well.
"A question judge ask a designer if he/she had copy another's idea: Did you see/know about the patented product before you designed the "copied product?" Can Samsung's designers honestly answer that question?"
Seriously Now... Only Samsung's engineers can answer such a question.
The concept of going after a manufacturer for this purpose, even though the OS was written by another, is common practice, and is perfectly legal all over the world. MS is going after manufacturers of Android devices even though the OS is by Google. This is no different.
Wow..I never thought of it that way. That is a very good point. But the difference is MS just wants the $$$$ they get from licensing......Apple has NO intention of licensing ANYTHING if they win any of the multitude of lawsuits. They have said they want to kill Android outright.
Numerous calls, texts, web surfing, FaceBook postings, Twitter and the occasional web search etc.and... Yes, I'm very impressed with the battery life as well.
That's absolutely meaningless. From the image it looks about 35% of the power was used when the phone was in Phone Idle or Cell Standby. And judging by the excessive battery usage of Android OS over Screen, and the image, I'm guessing you have turned your display brightness down to the lowest setting or near it.
'Odd' or not... The pics clearly show that I'm getting very good battery life from my Galaxy Nexus, and it's consistent with just the minor optimization previously posted.
Here's another one from when I first started exploring ways to increase to battery life: roughly 34.5 hours with 24% remaining under moderate use e.g normal calling, texting, light web surfing/FaceBook/Twitter.
Oh Well... I'm Happy!
Now where were we on this whole 'lock screen' issue?
That is awesome battery life!!! When I used the Nexus and my IP4s side by side for 30 days I did not get that kind of battery life. My IP4s can go almost 2 days without a charge with normal (for me anyway) use. My Nexus would only last about 14 hours with the same use. But that was experience I am sure everyone's milage will differ....
I've deduced that it's the baseband driver that is the problem. That is what is rapidly changing in the iOS 5..0.x betas for the 4S. Everyone I know seems to be fine with there 4S but I had the issue. It was bad. I tried all the home remedies and none worked. I ended up returning it when I went to replace it and they didn't have my model in stock that day. I've been keeping a close eye on iOS 5.0.x progress for the 4S and plan on getting the 4S when I feel it's suitably resolved. Chances are I would be fine with the next one I tried but I don't the luxury right now to deal with a phone dying too quickly and multiple returns to the Apple Store so I'm just waiting a bit.
Still, only a small fraction of people have the problem. If it is hardware, then it must be a small number of phones with defective chips, or something else that's causing this, along with a software interaction. The point is that it's not a design problem or all, or at least most people would have the problem.
In post 73 he explained how he optimized his battery use.
Doesn't matter. If he shows battery life that's more than twice what tests have shown to be possible, then something's fishy.
Doesn't matter. If he shows battery life that's more than twice what tests have shown to be possible, then something's fishy.
What tests showed it wasn't possible? Not Anandtech's.
'Odd' or not... The pics clearly show that I'm getting very good battery life from my Galaxy Nexus, and it's consistent with just the minor optimization previously posted.
Here's another one from when I first started exploring ways to increase to battery life: roughly 34.5 hours with 24% remaining under moderate use e.g normal calling, texting, light web surfing/FaceBook/Twitter.
Oh Well... I'm Happy!
Now where were we on this whole 'lock screen' issue?
I have no problem getting well over a day with moderate use, by my standard of what moderate means. Neither of us is testing under any kind of conditions that are meaningful.
That is awesome battery life!!! When I used the Nexus and my IP4s side by side for 30 days I did not get that kind of battery life. My IP4s can go almost 2 days without a charge with normal (for me anyway) use. My Nexus would only last about 14 hours with the same use. But that was experience I am sure everyone's milage will differ....
As one who uses devices running several different platforms (on a daily basis) I've become quite adept at optimizing them best for the way I use them, especially those using Android.
I find that far too many people lack the wherewithal (or ability) to do similarly, and instead just give up.
Their Loss.
What tests showed it wasn't possible? Not Anandtech's.
Just think a little. He states that he had HEAVY use. So it's really easy to interpolate from that by looking at the battery life charts.
Heavy use doesn't mean 50 one minute calls, with 30 2 minute web sessions, and a few minutes of watching video here and there.
As one who uses devices running several different platforms (on a daily basis) I've become quite adept at optimizing them best for the way I use them, especially those using Android.
I find that far too many people lack the wherewithal (or ability) to do similarly, and instead just give up.
Their Loss.
You should cook up a rom with those optimizations.....you would get a ton of donations in the XDA forums.....
I have had numerous Android phones and tried just about every rom developed with optimizations intended to improve battery life. But have never gotten anywhere near 35 hours of battery life. Are you using the stock battery or is this the extended battery?
Doesn't matter. If he shows battery life that's more than twice what tests have shown to be possible, then something's fishy.
Nothing 'fishy' about... As a matter of fact, I've made two phone calls, a FaceBook Post and sent a short text message since that initial post, and still have have 32% remaining.
Anyway... You appear bent on believing what you want, even in the face of photographic evidence, so I'll leave you to that.
Be Well...
Just think a little. He states that he had HEAVY use. So it's really easy to interpolate from that by looking at the battery life charts.
Heavy use doesn't mean 50 one minute calls, with 30 2 minute web sessions, and a few minutes of watching video here and there.
Maybe heavy to him and heavy to you mean two different things. Perhaps he uses it as a actual phone more than a web browser. Dunno. We all use our phones differently. I haven't seen anything that makes me believe he's faked it.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/19466...s_battery_life
The Galaxy Nexus does use slide-to-unlock but it doesn't look the same as Apple's lock.
Depending on the wording of the patent it doesn't have to look like the Apple unlock to be a violation. As I recall the wording was merely to have a preset place to unlock the device which is designated by an image that shows where to slide with perhaps words to further explain.
The courts could decide that in fact the Galaxy Nexus fits that bill and is a violation
Well,
I have a Galaxy Nexus and I can say with 100% certainty, that it is NOT a slide to unlock feature.
The patent made not specify a 'slide' but rather a 'movement' in which case even the circle gesture could qualify
In post 73 he explained how he optimized his battery use.
That still wouldn't account for the long battery life. IMO, that would only prevent excessive power consumption, bringing it more in the range of the benchmark or stated battery life. "Rather heavy use" with that kind of battery life is extraordinary and, therefore, doubtful, which is why I asked him to elaborate.
That still wouldn't account for the long battery life. IMO, that would only prevent excessive power consumption, bringing it more in the range of the benchmark or stated battery life. "Rather heavy use" with that kind of battery life is extraordinary and, therefore, doubtful, which is why I asked him to elaborate.
I am able to get 30 days of heavy writing out of my iPad on one charge. I achieve this by keeping it in standby and using a dry erase marker on the glass. Clearly this is the result of superior design by Apple.