Codename referred to <a href="http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2607921,00.html"; target="_blank">this</a> article. Keep in mind that there are many here who think that Codename is a former (current) member here by the name of PowermacG4, further more there are many here that think that POwermacG4 is Nick DePlume from ThinkSecret, furthermore Nick has never been shy to say even on his front page that he is close with Matthew Rothenberg and has actually co-written articles with him on eWeek. The story that Codename linked to is written by Matthew.
[quote]Sources close to Apple US have indicated to MacUser that the company will announce its first 1GHz Power Mac on Monday.
Although details of the product are still unclear, the new Power Mac is believed to use the next generation of G4 processor, previously codenamed Apollo. This chip is likely to be called either the PowerPC 7445 or 7455, according to sources familiar with the project.
Other features about the new Mac remain unclear, although it is understood that the fastest configuration is unlikely to be immediately available.
Motorola?s current roadmap for the G4 series of processors calls for the product to achieve speeds of over 1GHz during the coming year, suggesting that the new chip will not be the end of the line for the G4. The next generation PowerPC, G5, is on course for delivery in the autumn, with speeds beginning at 800MHz and increasing over its lifetime to beyond 2GHz.
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As far as i remember (usually not that far) MacUser has been on the ball as far as predictions go. I guess 1Ghz is supposed to blow us away... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
Actually they have been less than accurate. In fact, I doubt they have any real info this time because somehow they know the part number for the processor but have no info on the machine itself? Do they have a motorola source or Apple source?
<strong>Actually they have been less than accurate. In fact, I doubt they have any real info this time because somehow they know the part number for the processor but have no info on the machine itself? Do they have a motorola source or Apple source?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, no. Motorola have press releases on the Apollo, its the MMC7460. Whilst 7455 might have been possible, 7445 would have been silly, implying an incremental update to the 7440 rather than the 7450.
The writing is on the wall people. There is no real G5 - and there won't be. The G4 and its offspring are what are going to power Apple for a while - this year and next. Will there be processors called G5? - Yes - but they will not be what people think. The application of a faster bus and other board modifications will keep Apple competative.
<strong>The writing is on the wall people. There is no real G5 - and there won't be. The G4 and its offspring are what are going to power Apple for a while - this year and next. Will there be processors called G5? - Yes - but they will not be what people think. The application of a faster bus and other board modifications will keep Apple competative.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, I expect the G5 to arrive in summer. So it will be there in a year (it always happens this way). Why? The reports from "Dorsal M" all sound reasonable - unless he is too a gifted story teller. So I think there are indeed G5 test boxes out there. But it is a long way from a prototype to the shipping box. Remember those UMA2/DDR rumors?
Doral, what is the color of the motherboards with the prototypes you indicated with USB1.1 and 800Mbps FireWire: red, stripped, grey, green, yellow or blue?
If you're going to say what I think you are, then MWSF shall indeed be very interesting.
I'd say MWNY is G5 time, in fact it has to be, as the G4 will have topped out by then. The G5 is key to Apple's survival, a hell lot of long time Mac users are seriousl looking at PCs these days.
[quote]There is a G5, Apple is using it and it is damn near ready for production. I personally don't think we'll see it for a few months,
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So Apple can still announce it, like they did with the 7450 G4s. Jobs announced those at MWSF and they didn't ship until March. Although, I'm sure part of the reason is that the 500 MHz Powermacs were simply not selling, and Apple figured they could make more money by taking pre-orders for the new G4s, rather than selling their "current" powermacs. Hope I explained that clearly...
interesting. the posts of dorsal's actually coincide well with what apple is hyping. looks like this might be what we're to expect. i'd certainly believe this over the iWalk.
<strong>MacUser UK is spot on. Notice they don't speculate on the i device like the rest of them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What bothers me about their article is the G5 due in Autumn starting at 800ghz.
How would that work? Figure G4 Apollos at 1.2ghz- 1.4ghz by Aumtumn then release a G5 at 800hmz? That would be a bad move. Put it in the iMac til it matures? Yea, and then have Apollo G4s at 1.4gh and G5 iMacs at 800hmz- try to explain that one to the public. Going by thier info it makes no sence to debut the G5 @ 800mhz. Why?
What bothers me about their article is the G5 due in Autumn starting at 800ghz. Going by thier info it makes no sence to debut the G5 @ 800mhz. Why?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Motorola says the G5 will be 800-2000 mhz. That does not mean that the G5 Apple will use will start at 800 mhz (the 8540 will be even available @ 600 mhz), it just means that they read something on Motorolas site that they did not understand - so forget about everything else they said.
Motorola says the G5 will be 800-2000 mhz. That does not mean that the G5 Apple will use will start at 800 mhz (the 8540 will be even available @ 600 mhz), it just means that they read something on Motorolas site that they did not understand - so forget about everything else they said.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know what Moto said, I was commenting to the poster above who said MacUser was spot on. If they were why would they be writing about that we already know and not themselves know Apple wouldn't release a 800mhz G5 but they (MU) would say that the G5 would be released in autumn?
What a major disappointment...Apple has the technology and the money.Apple trying to milk the
G-3's and G-4's.Blame Motorola when they have engineers at Apple working on the G-5.So, no G-5 until the Fourth Quarter: Oct.-Nov.-Dec..One complete year away???Holy Mackeral....Maybe for the best... since O/S-X is not complete.Too many patches.I guess we will have 10.5 by then.Not as many head-aches.I wanted a G-5 new case,HyperTransport,Rapid IO,DDR Ram,MPEG-4 on the motherboard,Raycer chip for the O/S,DVD-R,100 Gig HD,N-Vidia 32 Megs VRAM,built-in broad band, etc...Also Dual G-5's at 1.6 GHz Now that is hype.To blow WinDos out of the water.Run circles
around the WinTel platform.But, look at what we will probably get.....alot of hype and the minimum in technology.Apple makes it seem like the year 2000.So... depressing.So many hard-core Mac Aficionados believed
in Apple Computer,Inc...Perhaps...2003, 1st Quarter???Sounds about right.Alot of people are abondoning the Apple platform.That is for sure...no Rumor.
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<strong>Here's another quote from codename over at Think Secret. It's in the iPhoto? iCam? thread.
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You heard it here first: G2000
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the G2000 was the original codename for the G5.
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the G2000 was the original codename for the G5.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sounds about right, it is suppose to scale from 800mgh- 1.6ghz
Here's some (old?) info they linked to <a href="http://www.mackido.com/Hardware/G2000.html"; target="_blank">G2000</a>
Just food for thought...
[quote]Sources close to Apple US have indicated to MacUser that the company will announce its first 1GHz Power Mac on Monday.
Although details of the product are still unclear, the new Power Mac is believed to use the next generation of G4 processor, previously codenamed Apollo. This chip is likely to be called either the PowerPC 7445 or 7455, according to sources familiar with the project.
Other features about the new Mac remain unclear, although it is understood that the fastest configuration is unlikely to be immediately available.
Motorola?s current roadmap for the G4 series of processors calls for the product to achieve speeds of over 1GHz during the coming year, suggesting that the new chip will not be the end of the line for the G4. The next generation PowerPC, G5, is on course for delivery in the autumn, with speeds beginning at 800MHz and increasing over its lifetime to beyond 2GHz.
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As far as i remember (usually not that far) MacUser has been on the ball as far as predictions go. I guess 1Ghz is supposed to blow us away... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
<strong>Actually they have been less than accurate. In fact, I doubt they have any real info this time because somehow they know the part number for the processor but have no info on the machine itself? Do they have a motorola source or Apple source?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, no. Motorola have press releases on the Apollo, its the MMC7460. Whilst 7455 might have been possible, 7445 would have been silly, implying an incremental update to the 7440 rather than the 7450.
Michael
<strong>The writing is on the wall people. There is no real G5 - and there won't be. The G4 and its offspring are what are going to power Apple for a while - this year and next. Will there be processors called G5? - Yes - but they will not be what people think. The application of a faster bus and other board modifications will keep Apple competative.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, I expect the G5 to arrive in summer. So it will be there in a year (it always happens this way). Why? The reports from "Dorsal M" all sound reasonable - unless he is too a gifted story teller. So I think there are indeed G5 test boxes out there. But it is a long way from a prototype to the shipping box. Remember those UMA2/DDR rumors?
If you're going to say what I think you are, then MWSF shall indeed be very interesting.
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So Apple can still announce it, like they did with the 7450 G4s. Jobs announced those at MWSF and they didn't ship until March. Although, I'm sure part of the reason is that the 500 MHz Powermacs were simply not selling, and Apple figured they could make more money by taking pre-orders for the new G4s, rather than selling their "current" powermacs. Hope I explained that clearly...
<strong>MacUser UK is spot on. Notice they don't speculate on the i device like the rest of them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What bothers me about their article is the G5 due in Autumn starting at 800ghz.
How would that work? Figure G4 Apollos at 1.2ghz- 1.4ghz by Aumtumn then release a G5 at 800hmz? That would be a bad move. Put it in the iMac til it matures? Yea, and then have Apollo G4s at 1.4gh and G5 iMacs at 800hmz- try to explain that one to the public. Going by thier info it makes no sence to debut the G5 @ 800mhz. Why?
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What bothers me about their article is the G5 due in Autumn starting at 800ghz. Going by thier info it makes no sence to debut the G5 @ 800mhz. Why?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Motorola says the G5 will be 800-2000 mhz. That does not mean that the G5 Apple will use will start at 800 mhz (the 8540 will be even available @ 600 mhz), it just means that they read something on Motorolas site that they did not understand - so forget about everything else they said.
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Motorola says the G5 will be 800-2000 mhz. That does not mean that the G5 Apple will use will start at 800 mhz (the 8540 will be even available @ 600 mhz), it just means that they read something on Motorolas site that they did not understand - so forget about everything else they said.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know what Moto said, I was commenting to the poster above who said MacUser was spot on. If they were why would they be writing about that we already know and not themselves know Apple wouldn't release a 800mhz G5 but they (MU) would say that the G5 would be released in autumn?
Make sence?
G-3's and G-4's.Blame Motorola when they have engineers at Apple working on the G-5.So, no G-5 until the Fourth Quarter: Oct.-Nov.-Dec..One complete year away???Holy Mackeral....Maybe for the best... since O/S-X is not complete.Too many patches.I guess we will have 10.5 by then.Not as many head-aches.I wanted a G-5 new case,HyperTransport,Rapid IO,DDR Ram,MPEG-4 on the motherboard,Raycer chip for the O/S,DVD-R,100 Gig HD,N-Vidia 32 Megs VRAM,built-in broad band, etc...Also Dual G-5's at 1.6 GHz Now that is hype.To blow WinDos out of the water.Run circles
around the WinTel platform.But, look at what we will probably get.....alot of hype and the minimum in technology.Apple makes it seem like the year 2000.So... depressing.So many hard-core Mac Aficionados believed
in Apple Computer,Inc...Perhaps...2003, 1st Quarter???Sounds about right.Alot of people are abondoning the Apple platform.That is for sure...no Rumor.