If Apple was to claim they have 20million preorders for the 6th generation iPhone you would believe it in a heartbeat. Why is it so hard to believe samsung can have a successful product or rather why is it that apple is the only company that can have a successful product. This idea that only apple can be good and all other companies that compete with them are liars con-artiest, evil and should be shut down. Apple is not the only good company and there is plenty of room for more then one successful company.
I'm actually looking forward to the Galaxy S III becoming the best-selling phone in the world.
Finally we can start calling Samsung users sheep... give them a taste of their own medicine.
You guys are laughable. Buried within the link within the link within your link is the following statement from Samsung: "Samsung Electronics today announced that the Samsung GALAXY S II (Model: GT-I9100) has achieved 20 million global channel sales in 10 months since its debut in April 2011."
Let's see if you can figure it out!
That's not fair. You're supposed to take stuff at face value and not go digging into the fine details.
Why do I get the feeling that Samsung paid most of those people to stand in line.
I'm not saying that Samsung would actually do that but "I" have come to believe that it is not beneath them to do such a trick.
If you read the red letters on the big poster, you'll find out that the first 1000 subscribers are promised accessories worth $240. So yes, there is an incentive for the people who queue. Samsung's motivation is less clear.
If you read the red letters on the big poster, you'll find out that the first 1000 subscribers are promised accessories worth $240. So yes, there is an incentive for the people who queue. Samsung's motivation is less clear.
Hmmm..... maybe they caught that queue early, but it didn't look remotely like there were 1000 people in line to me, despite the $240 inducement.
It's specs look impressive but show that the iPhone 4S GPU performance is about the same, and GPU performance is what makes your device run not the number of CPU cores.
Other specs are comparable too, so this years iPhone will be a lot better even if you look at the specs
I don't believe anything Anandtech says. They claim that the Samsung is way faster than the iPhone 4S in every respect.
But that doesn't matter so long as it runs Android, because Android is slow to use. Most people just use it as a dumbphone anyways because they can't figure out how to work it.
So they get a Samsung so that they can be like everybody else, and they don't use it for anything because if they do the battery wears out.
Originally Posted by Hyram GestanSo they get a Samsung so that they can be like everybody else, and they don't use it for anything because if they do the battery wears out.
"Let's put it into some context: subjecting the Galaxy S3 to the same test we do all smartphones, it's come out as the second longest-lasting device of all we've checked out."
If you read the red letters on the big poster, you'll find out that the first 1000 subscribers are promised accessories worth $240. So yes, there is an incentive for the people who queue. Samsung's motivation is less clear.
Do you have a link for this? I am not finding anything other than a local London store offering incentives to the first 1000 pre-orders.
Hmmm..... maybe they caught that queue early, but it didn't look remotely like there were 1000 people in line to me, despite the $240 inducement.
I think "pathetic" is the right sentiment.
Well it could easily be a national campaign, so the size of the queue at one store isn't telling.
We seem to share the sentiment that this behavior is pathetic, but we may differ in the details. While I find it pathetic that anyone would queue, you seem to be thrown off by the fact that there are too few people. Is that correct?
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Do you have a link for this? I am not finding anything other than a local London store offering incentives to the first 1000 pre-orders.
Yes I do, scroll up to my post #64. This wasn't in the UK by the way, it's in Singapore.
I don't believe anything Anandtech says. They claim that the Samsung is way faster than the iPhone 4S in every respect.
But that doesn't matter so long as it runs Android, because Android is slow to use. Most people just use it as a dumbphone anyways because they can't figure out how to work it.
So they get a Samsung so that they can be like everybody else, and they don't use it for anything because if they do the battery wears out.
I do believe the benchmark results, I think it's likely the benchmarks are conducted properly, but what benchmark is relevant?
I am saying that the benchmarks that test GPU performance are relevant and if you look at the results the iPhone is pretty close compared to the S3. They also claim that until now Apples iPhone was the fastest phone in this respect. So it isn't true that Anandtech claims that the S3 is way faster in every aspect.
I do believe the benchmark results, I think it's likely the benchmarks are conducted properly, but what benchmark is relevant?
I am saying that the benchmarks that test GPU performance are relevant and if you look at the results the iPhone is pretty close compared to the S3. They also claim that until now Apples iPhone was the fastest phone in this respect. So it isn't true that Anandtech claims that the S3 is way faster in every aspect.
J.
First off, you're arguing with a ghost -- the user you're replying to is banned.
Second, GPU is relevant for some but not all tasks -- all depends on how you use your phone.
Third, mobile phones have reached a point when additional performance doesn't always translate in obvious improvements. For example, GPUs have been sufficiently powerful in all flagship devices in the past 6-9 months. True that some phones will have a framerate of 50 in a benchmark where the 4S has 75, but our perception doesn't gain much from going above 30 anyway. So it is immaterial which one scores the best, if you're not going to see the difference.
Only my opinion, but I think the differences between the Galaxy SIII with ICS and the original Galaxy with Android 2.x are far more striking than the 3GS to 4S.
gotta be the dumbest statement in a long time on AI....
3GS to 4 was a major aesthetic change and performance gain as usual. 4 to 4S was again a huge leap in performance. Don't be so efing obtuse.
First off, you're arguing with a ghost -- the user you're replying to is banned.
Second, GPU is relevant for some but not all tasks -- all depends on how you use your phone.
Third, mobile phones have reached a point when additional performance doesn't always translate in obvious improvements. For example, GPUs have been sufficiently powerful in all flagship devices in the past 6-9 months. True that some phones will have a framerate of 50 in a benchmark where the 4S has 75, but our perception doesn't gain much from going above 30 anyway. So it is immaterial which one scores the best, if you're not going to see the difference.
Thanks for pointing out that the user is banned (that isn't obvious unless you view his profile), I'm not sure why he is banned though.
Your other points are a bit obvious and I disagree that the GPUs are fast enough already.
3D graphic scenes are incredibly GPU intensive and details like shadows, reflections and complex 3D objects need all calculation power available and can always use more (because demanding games are designed on the performance edge).
Your other points are a bit obvious and I disagree that the GPUs are fast enough already.
3D graphic scenes are incredibly GPU intensive and details like shadows, reflections and complex 3D objects need all calculation power available and can always use more (because demanding games are designed on the performance edge).
J.
Gaming is only one use of the phone, and not a very wise thing to do on the performance edge if you value the other uses. Besides, at one point you should also consider how much you add to the gaming experience by calculation-intensive rendering.
So, people who deny being Apple sheep think there is meaning to the number of people who line up for a phone?
I know everyone is different but I can easily type with one hand on every phone I've picked up (save the Note). So to say Apple only wants a phone people can use with one hand is meaningless. Ever try to take a screen shot?
Regarding the "form factor" of the phone: if you put your phone in a case, shut up.
On the advice of my friends who work in Cupertino I ignored the 4s. That phone is an afterthought- something to please the investors- while the 4 was being upgraded to what was hoped to be the 5. To release a product in beta (like Siri) is a sign that you know your fans will buy anything, bugs and all.
I'm looking forward to the Galaxy 3. The 2 is a fine phone and Android has many features I find very helpful. I can't wait, thought I'm not going to waste time in line to be the first on my block with a new toy. I don't have those types of issues where I need acceptance on what products I buy.
BTW, as long as my phone works I don't give a rodent heiny how long the lines are. Popularity is not a sign of quality. It's often a sign of manipulation. If you don't believe that, look at your collection of Beany Babies and Thomas Kincade paintings.
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I'm actually looking forward to the Galaxy S III becoming the best-selling phone in the world.
Finally we can start calling Samsung users sheep... give them a taste of their own medicine.
:-)
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Originally Posted by Michael Scrip
I'm actually looking forward to the Galaxy S III becoming the best-selling phone in the world.
Finally we can start calling Samsung users sheep... give them a taste of their own medicine.
:-)
Baaaaaaaaa...
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
You guys are laughable. Buried within the link within the link within your link is the following statement from Samsung: "Samsung Electronics today announced that the Samsung GALAXY S II (Model: GT-I9100) has achieved 20 million global channel sales in 10 months since its debut in April 2011."
Let's see if you can figure it out!
That's not fair. You're supposed to take stuff at face value and not go digging into the fine details.
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Originally Posted by Michael Scrip
I'm actually looking forward to the Galaxy S III becoming the best-selling phone in the world.
Finally we can start calling Samsung users sheep... give them a taste of their own medicine.
:-)
Reportedly, there were even queues for the Galaxy S III today.
Pathetic.
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Originally Posted by DrDoppio
Reportedly, there were even queues for the Galaxy S III today.
Pathetic.
Why do I get the feeling that Samsung paid most of those people to stand in line.
I'm not saying that Samsung actually did that but "I" have come to believe that it is not beneath them to do such a trick.
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Originally Posted by island hermit
Why do I get the feeling that Samsung paid most of those people to stand in line.
I'm not saying that Samsung would actually do that but "I" have come to believe that it is not beneath them to do such a trick.
If you read the red letters on the big poster, you'll find out that the first 1000 subscribers are promised accessories worth $240. So yes, there is an incentive for the people who queue. Samsung's motivation is less clear.
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Originally Posted by DrDoppio
If you read the red letters on the big poster, you'll find out that the first 1000 subscribers are promised accessories worth $240. So yes, there is an incentive for the people who queue. Samsung's motivation is less clear.
Hmmm..... maybe they caught that queue early, but it didn't look remotely like there were 1000 people in line to me, despite the $240 inducement.
I think "pathetic" is the right sentiment.
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Originally Posted by jnjnjn
It's specs look impressive but show that the iPhone 4S GPU performance is about the same, and GPU performance is what makes your device run not the number of CPU cores.
Other specs are comparable too, so this years iPhone will be a lot better even if you look at the specs
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
I don't believe anything Anandtech says. They claim that the Samsung is way faster than the iPhone 4S in every respect.
But that doesn't matter so long as it runs Android, because Android is slow to use. Most people just use it as a dumbphone anyways because they can't figure out how to work it.
So they get a Samsung so that they can be like everybody else, and they don't use it for anything because if they do the battery wears out.
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Originally Posted by Hyram Gestan
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s3-1078667/review?artc_pg=13
"Let's put it into some context: subjecting the Galaxy S3 to the same test we do all smartphones, it's come out as the second longest-lasting device of all we've checked out."
If you read the red letters on the big poster, you'll find out that the first 1000 subscribers are promised accessories worth $240. So yes, there is an incentive for the people who queue. Samsung's motivation is less clear.
Do you have a link for this? I am not finding anything other than a local London store offering incentives to the first 1000 pre-orders.Quote:
Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Hmmm..... maybe they caught that queue early, but it didn't look remotely like there were 1000 people in line to me, despite the $240 inducement.
I think "pathetic" is the right sentiment.
Well it could easily be a national campaign, so the size of the queue at one store isn't telling.
We seem to share the sentiment that this behavior is pathetic, but we may differ in the details. While I find it pathetic that anyone would queue, you seem to be thrown off by the fact that there are too few people. Is that correct?
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Originally Posted by El Band
Do you have a link for this? I am not finding anything other than a local London store offering incentives to the first 1000 pre-orders.Yes I do, scroll up to my post #64. This wasn't in the UK by the way, it's in Singapore.
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Originally Posted by Hyram Gestan
I don't believe anything Anandtech says. They claim that the Samsung is way faster than the iPhone 4S in every respect.
Eh, too obvious.
I do believe the benchmark results, I think it's likely the benchmarks are conducted properly, but what benchmark is relevant?
I am saying that the benchmarks that test GPU performance are relevant and if you look at the results the iPhone is pretty close compared to the S3. They also claim that until now Apples iPhone was the fastest phone in this respect. So it isn't true that Anandtech claims that the S3 is way faster in every aspect.
J.
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Originally Posted by jnjnjn
I do believe the benchmark results, I think it's likely the benchmarks are conducted properly, but what benchmark is relevant?
I am saying that the benchmarks that test GPU performance are relevant and if you look at the results the iPhone is pretty close compared to the S3. They also claim that until now Apples iPhone was the fastest phone in this respect. So it isn't true that Anandtech claims that the S3 is way faster in every aspect.
J.
First off, you're arguing with a ghost -- the user you're replying to is banned.
Second, GPU is relevant for some but not all tasks -- all depends on how you use your phone.
Third, mobile phones have reached a point when additional performance doesn't always translate in obvious improvements. For example, GPUs have been sufficiently powerful in all flagship devices in the past 6-9 months. True that some phones will have a framerate of 50 in a benchmark where the 4S has 75, but our perception doesn't gain much from going above 30 anyway. So it is immaterial which one scores the best, if you're not going to see the difference.
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Originally Posted by gwmac
Only my opinion, but I think the differences between the Galaxy SIII with ICS and the original Galaxy with Android 2.x are far more striking than the 3GS to 4S.
gotta be the dumbest statement in a long time on AI....
3GS to 4 was a major aesthetic change and performance gain as usual. 4 to 4S was again a huge leap in performance. Don't be so efing obtuse.
Thanks for pointing out that the user is banned (that isn't obvious unless you view his profile), I'm not sure why he is banned though.
Your other points are a bit obvious and I disagree that the GPUs are fast enough already.
3D graphic scenes are incredibly GPU intensive and details like shadows, reflections and complex 3D objects need all calculation power available and can always use more (because demanding games are designed on the performance edge).
J.
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Originally Posted by jnjnjn
Thanks for pointing out that the user is banned (that isn't obvious unless you view his profile), I'm not sure why he is banned though.
My guess is that he was being offensive.
Your other points are a bit obvious and I disagree that the GPUs are fast enough already.
3D graphic scenes are incredibly GPU intensive and details like shadows, reflections and complex 3D objects need all calculation power available and can always use more (because demanding games are designed on the performance edge).
J.
Gaming is only one use of the phone, and not a very wise thing to do on the performance edge if you value the other uses. Besides, at one point you should also consider how much you add to the gaming experience by calculation-intensive rendering.
I know everyone is different but I can easily type with one hand on every phone I've picked up (save the Note). So to say Apple only wants a phone people can use with one hand is meaningless. Ever try to take a screen shot?
Regarding the "form factor" of the phone: if you put your phone in a case, shut up.
On the advice of my friends who work in Cupertino I ignored the 4s. That phone is an afterthought- something to please the investors- while the 4 was being upgraded to what was hoped to be the 5. To release a product in beta (like Siri) is a sign that you know your fans will buy anything, bugs and all.
I'm looking forward to the Galaxy 3. The 2 is a fine phone and Android has many features I find very helpful. I can't wait, thought I'm not going to waste time in line to be the first on my block with a new toy. I don't have those types of issues where I need acceptance on what products I buy.
Popularity is not a sign of quality. It's often a sign of manipulation. If you don't believe that, look at your collection of Beany Babies and Thomas Kincade paintings.