And still in this day and age, despite all the new features on iOS7, I cannot have mailbox as my default e-mail client or open links in another browser not called Safari...
How about $250 billions in losses in shareholder value... and counting. The losses started right after small-screen iPhone 5 hit the market and keep growing. Cook himself acknowledged that this is very frustrating to him. It should be. The losses under Cook overshadow the losses under <span style="font-size:13px;line-height:1.231;">Gil Amelio. In fact, it is hard to come up with any other company that had such extensive losses in recent memory.</span>
My big problem with the redesign of iOS 7 isn't how much or little they've copied from the Windows Phone or from Android. I could care less.
What bothers me is that they seem to have given zero thought into whether or not I can read the stuff on my phone. Helvetica Neue Ultra Light may be a gorgeous font, but it makes my eyes work too hard (particularly when they throw it up white on a light background). Then they've got blurry transparencies everywhere to go with the thin font.
It looks as though I'm going to have a pick a special background screen and arrange my apps just so if I ever want to use the Control Center. The whole thing needs contrast and some effort at making it readable.
I can accept the crappy icons and color scheme if they fix the other stuff.
I'm very critical of Apple because my expectations hare high, after having seen what they are capable of for so long. However, I must say that Apple has always done 2 things well: They innovate new technology, and they take existing technologies and make them much better and much easier to use. Honestly, I don't like the look of much of iOS7. I don't like the neon saturated colors, particularly the blue that looks like the WinXP Luna theme has come back to haunt us some more. I also don't like the pure white screens. I'll leave final judgement for when its released, but I hope Apple is seriously listening to their fanbase and not the fanboy base. We're not all happy about what we see. Sometimes you need to shrug that off and move forward anyway, after all, Apple is a company that leads, but sometimes you have to listen to what your fanbase is saying and take it into consideration.
And, BTW, whoever said the market doesn't demand larger screens is clearly in denial. The Galaxy S4 is the biggest selling Android phone on the market for a reason. And...I think people are mistaken when they think Steve Jobs would have made a larger phone because Jobs has stated in the past that bigger phones are a mistake and that the iPhone was made that size for a reason. But, just like his refusal to change the original Mac, it grew antiquated with stagnation. There were plenty of affordable PC's with 15" monitors with color that were cheap within just a couple of years of the Mac's launch and Apple took forever to address that market. They fell way behind holding on to yesterday's sensation. The iMac just took an old idea and combined it with updated tech.
Drop it or prove it. No one cares about your individual personal opinion; larger phones don't sell better.
A few specific models from a particular manufacturer have sold well based on an Advertising and Marketing budget that overshadows the rest of the competition combined.
<span style="line-height:1.231;">It never ceases to amaze me how some people sit back and slam other people who actually do some research.</span>
<span style="line-height:1.231;">You're more than welcome to stop being lazy, and jump in with more... or any... data.</span>
You well know that cherry picking data is one of the oldest ways of using numbers to "lie". Politicians do it all the time.
In this case, it's been well established for quite a while that Apple takes in over 2/3rds of the mobile profits. If you're going to discredit that, the burden of proof should rest on you I'd reckon, and as was mentioned, more than one quarter should be cited to show a trend. Especially since Samsung is far from the picture of transparency, and who knows what is considered a "smartphone" to them.
Yeah, channel stuffing. And Apple still sells more iPhones.
That's comparing Apple's and oranges. If you compare Android phones, the Galaxy S4 is the biggest seller. Size does matter, to a point. Obviously the Note 3 isn't selling more than the S4. If Apple does come out with one larger and the current size, concurrently, you'll see the larger one outsell the current size. I guarantee it.
[quote name="ruel24" url="/t/158198/editorial-ios-7-shows-how-apple-is-leading-mobile-computing/200#post_2351707"] That's comparing Apple's and oranges.[/QUOTE]
No, it's getting to the crux of the actual argument. :no:
[QUOTE]...biggest seller.[/QUOTE]
So many jokes to make.
[QUOTE]If Apple does come out with one larger and the current size, concurrently, you'll see the larger one outsell the current size. I guarantee it.[/QUOTE]
Be... cause it will be the newest phone. Just like every other generation.
My big problem with the redesign of iOS 7 isn't how much or little they've copied from the Windows Phone or from Android. I could care less.
What bothers me is that they seem to have given zero thought into whether or not I can read the stuff on my phone. Helvetica Neue Ultra Light may be a gorgeous font, but it makes my eyes work too hard (particularly when they throw it up white on a light background). Then they've got blurry transparencies everywhere to go with the thin font.
It looks as though I'm going to have a pick a special background screen and arrange my apps just so if I ever want to use the Control Center. The whole thing needs contrast and some effort at making it readable.
I can accept the crappy icons and color scheme if they fix the other stuff.
There are several settings that improve the visibility of the UI considerably.
That's comparing Apple's and oranges. If you compare Android phones, the Galaxy S4 is the biggest seller. Size does matter, to a point. Obviously the Note 3 isn't selling more than the S4. If Apple does come out with one larger and the current size, concurrently, you'll see the larger one outsell the current size. I guarantee it.
The Note 3 isn't selling well because it doesn't exist.
I hope I do not need to explain to you why this "white balance, the reflectivity" comment is - as one Apple Insider forum member justly called it - "pure unadulterated bullshit."
What Cook was actually doing is covering up his decision to go with small 4" size. He knew that 4" was the most convenient choice logistically - that's what his spreadsheets showed. In fact, many Cook zealots rushed to defend Cook by explaining how 4" was the best choice considering the production contracts Apple had at the time with screen manufacturers, and that Jobs himself approved 4" back in 2010. This is typical Tim Cook - trying to be safe by accounting for many things, including profits, but overlooking the most important one - WILL SMALL SCREEN BE EASIER TO INTERACT WITH in 2012?
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I just don't get this faction of people who seem to focus their anger on Tim Cook, because they think Apple should listen to them. Apple makes things for the markets they serve: they are not your personal electronics design studio. Some forum posters try to state this in terms of Apple's competitiveness ("Apple is falling behind Samsung! OMG OMG OMG") as if they would be ashamed to buy a phone from the loser in the Great Screen Size Wars. It's simple: this is a market and we are consumers. We get to make a choice about how we spend our money. And that's it. If 4 inches is too small for you, buy a Phablet. That's how this works.
Awesome article. Puts all my doubts about how Apple will perform to rest. Thanks Dan for such a great article. Today Apple stock was down (again!) apparently for no reason at all. Your article made me stop thoughts of selling the Apple stock which I personally own :-). Cheers!
Apple cannot reinvent the wheel in smartphone area, but what they are doing for sure is bringing the best integrated experience to the user, making them possible to make the best out of their investments. Whether it takes innovation to do this or not is matter of taste, however, talking about Apple to stop innovating while having no clue at all what their next product will be is speculative, naive or even trolling.
THe question I always ask the people claiming how innovative Google is which never gets any real answer except counting some minor standard app integrated in Android thus killing better 3rd party apps: can someone really tell me where is Google so innovative? Maps, Drive, Plus, Mail, Books, Docs, maybe? Something else drastically new no one else has had before as a finished product? What, then? How does Apple lag behind this?
First of all, I'd like to make it clear I'm not an android user and I don't have any Google device for now. I'm just using Google as an example but I'll answer your question with "Google Glass" anyway. Innovative enough? Nevertheless it's funny you mentioning minor standard apps integrated in the OS killing better 3rd party apps. This is my major complaining about iOS!! Why can't I decide if I want to use 3rd party apps as defaults or not?
Talking about integrated user experience is also a debatable matter of taste. All ecosystems have pros and conns be it Google, Amazon, Microsoft Live or Apple/iCloud. It depends if you want (or are forced) to put all eggs in one basket or not. Apple does have the best integrated experience if all you have are apple products. If you don't or even if you mix and match products from different ecosystems, good luck having the "best" integrated experience.
Maybe you're right about me judging Apple without having no clue about their next product. I guess you do? I've been waiting at least 3 years for them to surprise me again with a new product like they used to in the past. They were not afraid of pushing the envelope back when they released the iPhone, the iPad or even the macbook air. They just got comfortable and it shows on their latest products. How come we haven't had a Haswell macbook air with retina display and touchscreen this year? Maybe the iPad mini with old technology based on the iPad 2 is the next product you're talking about?
If you are defining OS/platform "innovation" as solely making major, cosmetic changes to the user interface, and particularly the appearance of the Home screen, then it explains your post.
You say APIs and functionality don't matter, all you care about is one or two specific features (that Android debuted because they favor Google's specific business model).
Of course you have no respect for iOS development! You don't recognize any real aspect of innovation.
I just want to make clear I'm not an android user. I have always used all iPhone models as my daily drivers up to my current 4S. I wanted to give iOS 7 a chance before re-thinking my mobile platform of choice but now I'm not sure anymore.
I never said APIs and functionality don't matter. All I said is I'm not discussing APIs and again, you're missing the point. It seems to happen a lot around here... I guess real platform innovation is adding one or two specific features like copy and paste (iOS 3), multitasking (iOS 4), notification center (iOS 5) or Siri (iOS 6) over 6 years, right? Don't you think the awesome iOS 7 Control Center could have been in place back in iOS 3 instead of making everyone wait all this time?
You are mistaken about my respect for iOS development. I do respect a lot the iOS jailbreak development community. They are the true innovators on iOS!
First of all, I'd like to make it clear I'm not an android user and I don't have any Google device for now. I'm just using Google as an example but I'll answer your question with "Google Glass" anyway. Innovative enough? Nevertheless it's funny you mentioning minor standard apps integrated in the OS killing better 3rd party apps. This is my major complaining about iOS!! Why can't I decide if I want to use 3rd party apps as defaults or not?
Talking about integrated user experience is also a debatable matter of taste. All ecosystems have pros and conns be it Google, Amazon, Microsoft Live or Apple/iCloud. It depends if you want (or are forced) to put all eggs in one basket or not. Apple does have the best integrated experience if all you have are apple products. If you don't or even if you mix and match products from different ecosystems, good luck having the "best" integrated experience.
Maybe you're right about me judging Apple without having no clue about their next product. I guess you do? I've been waiting at least 3 years for them to surprise me again with a new product like they used to in the past. They were not afraid of pushing the envelope back when they released the iPhone, the iPad or even the macbook air. They just got comfortable and it shows on their latest products. How come we haven't had a Haswell macbook air with retina display and touchscreen this year? Maybe the iPad mini with old technology based on the iPad 2 is the next product you're talking about?
You list things like the iMac, iPod, iPhone, and iPad like they were all BAM BAM BAM back when Apple "used to innovate". In reality they were spread years apart. Yet you expect Apple to reinvent the wheel every year? We're only barely into the iPad's life cycle.
Also, there are Haswell MacBook Airs. And no, you won't see a touch screen Mac. Why would you? Apple is very careful about what it does; it's not Microsoft who throws stuff at the wall and hopes it sticks. Things like touchscreen monitors and Google Glass may sound cool, but how are they in practice? Google Glass sounds dangerous to me, and a good way to look like a fool.
You seem to focus on splashy features that make people go "ooh!" but ignore the behind-the-scenes stuff that make Apple stuff actually work the way they should.
And the iPad mini is a fantastic product, so don't pretend it's "dated". It's still the best 8" tablet out there by a mile.
I do respect a lot the iOS jailbreak development community. They are the true innovators on iOS!
Lol, I guess I was right: you do like flashy features like "themes" and the like, huh? You honestly think jailbreak devs are more innovative than the people who actually created the OS that they tinker (let's repeat that: TINKER) with? D'ok.
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Originally Posted by KDarling
You're more than welcome to stop being lazy, and jump in with more... or any... data.
No data is better than "any" data.
Yes, you can.
Apple is doomed.
Have you used it in person?
I'm very critical of Apple because my expectations hare high, after having seen what they are capable of for so long. However, I must say that Apple has always done 2 things well: They innovate new technology, and they take existing technologies and make them much better and much easier to use. Honestly, I don't like the look of much of iOS7. I don't like the neon saturated colors, particularly the blue that looks like the WinXP Luna theme has come back to haunt us some more. I also don't like the pure white screens. I'll leave final judgement for when its released, but I hope Apple is seriously listening to their fanbase and not the fanboy base. We're not all happy about what we see. Sometimes you need to shrug that off and move forward anyway, after all, Apple is a company that leads, but sometimes you have to listen to what your fanbase is saying and take it into consideration.
And, BTW, whoever said the market doesn't demand larger screens is clearly in denial. The Galaxy S4 is the biggest selling Android phone on the market for a reason. And...I think people are mistaken when they think Steve Jobs would have made a larger phone because Jobs has stated in the past that bigger phones are a mistake and that the iPhone was made that size for a reason. But, just like his refusal to change the original Mac, it grew antiquated with stagnation. There were plenty of affordable PC's with 15" monitors with color that were cheap within just a couple of years of the Mac's launch and Apple took forever to address that market. They fell way behind holding on to yesterday's sensation. The iMac just took an old idea and combined it with updated tech.
A few specific models from a particular manufacturer have sold well based on an Advertising and Marketing budget that overshadows the rest of the competition combined.
Yeah, channel stuffing. And Apple still sells more iPhones.
You well know that cherry picking data is one of the oldest ways of using numbers to "lie". Politicians do it all the time.
In this case, it's been well established for quite a while that Apple takes in over 2/3rds of the mobile profits. If you're going to discredit that, the burden of proof should rest on you I'd reckon, and as was mentioned, more than one quarter should be cited to show a trend. Especially since Samsung is far from the picture of transparency, and who knows what is considered a "smartphone" to them.
One model from one manufacturer as comparison to a phone that offers significantly more functionality? Really? Hahaha.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Yeah, channel stuffing. And Apple still sells more iPhones.
That's comparing Apple's and oranges. If you compare Android phones, the Galaxy S4 is the biggest seller. Size does matter, to a point. Obviously the Note 3 isn't selling more than the S4. If Apple does come out with one larger and the current size, concurrently, you'll see the larger one outsell the current size. I guarantee it.
That's comparing Apple's and oranges.[/QUOTE]
No, it's getting to the crux of the actual argument. :no:
[QUOTE]...biggest seller.[/QUOTE]
So many jokes to make.
[QUOTE]If Apple does come out with one larger and the current size, concurrently, you'll see the larger one outsell the current size. I guarantee it.[/QUOTE]
Be... cause it will be the newest phone. Just like every other generation.
There are several settings that improve the visibility of the UI considerably.
The Note 3 isn't selling well because it doesn't exist.
I just don't get this faction of people who seem to focus their anger on Tim Cook, because they think Apple should listen to them. Apple makes things for the markets they serve: they are not your personal electronics design studio. Some forum posters try to state this in terms of Apple's competitiveness ("Apple is falling behind Samsung! OMG OMG OMG") as if they would be ashamed to buy a phone from the loser in the Great Screen Size Wars. It's simple: this is a market and we are consumers. We get to make a choice about how we spend our money. And that's it. If 4 inches is too small for you, buy a Phablet. That's how this works.
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Apple cannot reinvent the wheel in smartphone area, but what they are doing for sure is bringing the best integrated experience to the user, making them possible to make the best out of their investments. Whether it takes innovation to do this or not is matter of taste, however, talking about Apple to stop innovating while having no clue at all what their next product will be is speculative, naive or even trolling.
THe question I always ask the people claiming how innovative Google is which never gets any real answer except counting some minor standard app integrated in Android thus killing better 3rd party apps: can someone really tell me where is Google so innovative? Maps, Drive, Plus, Mail, Books, Docs, maybe? Something else drastically new no one else has had before as a finished product? What, then? How does Apple lag behind this?
First of all, I'd like to make it clear I'm not an android user and I don't have any Google device for now. I'm just using Google as an example but I'll answer your question with "Google Glass" anyway. Innovative enough? Nevertheless it's funny you mentioning minor standard apps integrated in the OS killing better 3rd party apps. This is my major complaining about iOS!! Why can't I decide if I want to use 3rd party apps as defaults or not?
Talking about integrated user experience is also a debatable matter of taste. All ecosystems have pros and conns be it Google, Amazon, Microsoft Live or Apple/iCloud. It depends if you want (or are forced) to put all eggs in one basket or not. Apple does have the best integrated experience if all you have are apple products. If you don't or even if you mix and match products from different ecosystems, good luck having the "best" integrated experience.
Maybe you're right about me judging Apple without having no clue about their next product. I guess you do? I've been waiting at least 3 years for them to surprise me again with a new product like they used to in the past. They were not afraid of pushing the envelope back when they released the iPhone, the iPad or even the macbook air. They just got comfortable and it shows on their latest products. How come we haven't had a Haswell macbook air with retina display and touchscreen this year? Maybe the iPad mini with old technology based on the iPad 2 is the next product you're talking about?
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Originally Posted by Corrections
If you are defining OS/platform "innovation" as solely making major, cosmetic changes to the user interface, and particularly the appearance of the Home screen, then it explains your post.
You say APIs and functionality don't matter, all you care about is one or two specific features (that Android debuted because they favor Google's specific business model).
Of course you have no respect for iOS development! You don't recognize any real aspect of innovation.
I just want to make clear I'm not an android user. I have always used all iPhone models as my daily drivers up to my current 4S. I wanted to give iOS 7 a chance before re-thinking my mobile platform of choice but now I'm not sure anymore.
I never said APIs and functionality don't matter. All I said is I'm not discussing APIs and again, you're missing the point. It seems to happen a lot around here... I guess real platform innovation is adding one or two specific features like copy and paste (iOS 3), multitasking (iOS 4), notification center (iOS 5) or Siri (iOS 6) over 6 years, right? Don't you think the awesome iOS 7 Control Center could have been in place back in iOS 3 instead of making everyone wait all this time?
You are mistaken about my respect for iOS development. I do respect a lot the iOS jailbreak development community. They are the true innovators on iOS!
You list things like the iMac, iPod, iPhone, and iPad like they were all BAM BAM BAM back when Apple "used to innovate". In reality they were spread years apart. Yet you expect Apple to reinvent the wheel every year? We're only barely into the iPad's life cycle.
Also, there are Haswell MacBook Airs. And no, you won't see a touch screen Mac. Why would you? Apple is very careful about what it does; it's not Microsoft who throws stuff at the wall and hopes it sticks. Things like touchscreen monitors and Google Glass may sound cool, but how are they in practice? Google Glass sounds dangerous to me, and a good way to look like a fool.
You seem to focus on splashy features that make people go "ooh!" but ignore the behind-the-scenes stuff that make Apple stuff actually work the way they should.
And the iPad mini is a fantastic product, so don't pretend it's "dated". It's still the best 8" tablet out there by a mile.
Lol, I guess I was right: you do like flashy features like "themes" and the like, huh? You honestly think jailbreak devs are more innovative than the people who actually created the OS that they tinker (let's repeat that: TINKER) with? D'ok.