After crushing rival smartwatch sales, Apple Watch portrayed as doomed by CNBC

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  • Reply 61 of 219
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,407member
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    It is truly a marvel. A fabulously delicate, unobtrusive, classy, technologically advanced marvel.




    That's stretching a bit. It's selling well and it's beating others but it's definitely not what you just stated. I've seen two so far on people and I see at least 200 different people every day with what I do. The friends that I have that have one are split. One half thinks it's great the other half are selling them because they see no benefit in them.

    I am speaking from personal experience from owning one. Are you?

     

    More specifically, I mentioned four attributes. Did you ask your two friends if it was delicate, unobtrusive, classy and/or technologically advanced? What did they say to each?

  • Reply 62 of 219
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,407member
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    A troll narrative conflict has been detected:

    1. The Watch is doomed because nobody wants one

    2. The Watch is doomed because demand outstrips supply

    3. The Watch is doomed because I don't/can't/won't want it.

    4. The Watch is doomed because, of the 200 people I know who own iPhones, only two have it.

  • Reply 63 of 219
    slprescottslprescott Posts: 765member
    Today I discovered it taps me on the wrist just before a junction when using maps. Love it :)

    Here are two subtle but telling examples of the thought Apple put into the Watch Maps app: when you're approaching a turn, it distinguishes Left from Right in two non-visual ways: (1) for Left, the indicator tone goes down; for Right the tone goes up, and (2) for Left you get two haptic taps; for Right you get three.

    I like Map directions on the Watch and use it frequently.
  • Reply 64 of 219
    3. The Watch is doomed because I don't/can't/won't want it.
    4. The Watch is doomed because, of the 200 people I know who own iPhones, only two have it.
    5. The Watch is doomed because Apple won't reveal any sales figures.
  • Reply 65 of 219
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,407member
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    3. The Watch is doomed because I don't/can't/won't want it.

    4. The Watch is doomed because, of the 200 people I know who own iPhones, only two have it.


    5. The Watch is doomed because Apple won't reveal any sales figures.

    6. The Watch is doomed because Apple is doomed™.

    7. The Watch is doomed because, well, if it's not, it should be. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 66 of 219

    It is so simple, CNBC works for Microsoft. They are just doin their homework.

  • Reply 67 of 219
    esoomesoom Posts: 155member
    CNBC is in trouble, they need viewers and page views.

    They'll literally do/say anything to get either.

    If they get called on anything, they point to the "We're not anything but entertainment" disclaimer
  • Reply 68 of 219
    multimediamultimedia Posts: 1,056member
    I'm VERY pleased with mine. Just for notifications alone, it's worth every penny.

    Today I discovered it taps me on the wrist just before a junction when using maps. Love it :)

    For those of you saying it's a "fad", how very wrong you are. In-fact the reverse is more likely, with the bulk of the processing power eventually on your wrist, and an external screen which replaces the iPhone. Long time away sure, but I see that happening.
    Me too. It's not a fad. In fact this moment is a Sea Change in the history of personal computing. We're starting with the power of TWO iPhone 4Ses. Do all these naysayers understand that? It's a pair of 1968 Cray Supercomputers which took a whole room to fit in. Plus our ?WATCH is built on a 28nm chip that will likely be going to 14nm in 2016. So it seems to me that all the doomsayers and naysayers are without any understanding of what is going on at all.
  • Reply 69 of 219
    esoomesoom Posts: 155member
    multimedia wrote: »
    Me too. It's not a fad. In fact this moment is a Sea Change in the history of personal computing. We're starting with the power of TWO iPhone 4Ses. Do all these naysayers understand that? It's a pair of 1968 Cray Supercomputers which took a whole room to fit in. Plus our ?WATCH is built on a 28nm chip that will likely be going to 14nm in 2016. So it seems to me that all the doomsayers and naysayers are without any understanding of what is going on at all.

    Exactly, the Swiss really are screwed.

    I don't leave home without it.
  • Reply 70 of 219
    bobschlobbobschlob Posts: 1,074member
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    Saying that Apple is crushing rival smartwatch sales, is like saying you are the best at the special olympics. Either way, I'm going to wait and see how smartwatches develop over the next few generations to even remotely consider buying one.



    If you actually beleive there is going to be a "next few generations" of smartwatches, then your first sentence above is false.

  • Reply 71 of 219
    monstrositymonstrosity Posts: 2,234member
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    Here are two subtle but telling examples of the thought Apple put into the Watch Maps app: when you're approaching a turn, it distinguishes Left from Right in two non-visual ways: (1) for Left, the indicator tone goes down; for Right the tone goes up, and (2) for Left you get two haptic taps; for Right you get three.



    I like Map directions on the Watch and use it frequently.



    Ah I thought that was what was going on, but wasn't 100% sure. I was waiting for a 3 taps on a right hand turn roundabout but it never came (I'm back in the UK for a while) but now thinking about it, a right hand roundabout turnoff is technically a left hand turn.

  • Reply 72 of 219
    atlappleatlapple Posts: 496member
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    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

     

    For you, pulling out your iPhone out of your pocket every time you get a notification or an alert is not a big deal. For others, it is inconvenient to do so. Especially if your phone is in another room in the house, or when at work and its in the office and you're in the cafeteria, when you're in a meeting, when you want to send quick reply back to a text, etc etc. For women, it's particularly convenient, since their phone is often in a purse, and their clothes tend not to have pockets.

     

    The native apps are brilliant, not weak. Which one do you think is weak, and why? If you're talking about 3rd party apps, yes, they're slow, but that'll change soon (after WWDC) as Apple has made more resources available.

     

    Which apps will not work unless the app is open on your iPhone?

     

    'Next to nothing'? Without being paired to a iPhone, I can access:

    Time/World Clock

    Timer

    Alarm

    Apple Pay

    Workout

    Activity

    Heart Rate

    Music

    Photos

    Many third party apps (e.g., calculators)

    AppleTV Remote

    Keynote presentation remote.

     

    When the phone is not physically with me but in the same network, I can access a whole lot more, such as Texts, Emails, Weather, Stocks.... want me to go on?

     

    If Apple has not released any numbers by the end of the first year, come back and let us know, will ya? Any comparison to Samsung is laughable. Samsung releases NO sales numbers at all, and have a history of having released bogus numbers in the past.

     

    Of course I am. It's one of the most beautiful watches I've owned (and I own some nice ones). The straps are a marvel too.




    I show up because unlike many I actually own and use or my family owns and uses all of these products. I have never commented on an Apple product or any product for that matter that I have not owned or someone in my family have owned and used. 

     

    Native apps are very good, 3rd party apps are weak. My iPhone links to my iPad, iPad Mini and my Mac. There is never a time when I don't have at least one of those in a room with me or in my office. My phone comes with me to lunch. The Apple Watch is by far the most limited because there is only so much you can do on a 2x2 inch device. 

     

    Everything you listed that the Apple Watch can do without an iPhone is already everything I can already do, this is the problem, this is why it's simply a device that is not needed and why there isn't the excitement you often see with new Apple products. 

     

    The Apple Watch at least to me is only one thing, redundant. The younger generations don't want to use it, Facebook isn't available, twitter an Instagram are both far better on the iPhone, no Snapchat. 

     

    On the flip side my wife loves it which is why I got for her. 

     

    Having worked on super computers since I was 19 including one that was awarded the 2009 National Metal of Technology and Innovation I guess my bar for a technology marvel might be on the high side. Then again who cares about protein folding and human DNA mapping when you can build an awesome watch strap. 

  • Reply 73 of 219
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    yojimbo007 wrote: »
    May remaind everyone that CNBC is owned by comcast !

    Its a laughably biased propaganda machine not a dignified news channel.

    That might be true but there is nothing conservative about it.
  • Reply 74 of 219
    jason98jason98 Posts: 768member
    pogo007 wrote: »
    Well it's very successful. I think it will be a matter of time before it starts losing popularity. When people start realizing it doesn't do much they will stop using it. It will be just like the iPad which started great and it took a few years for people to realize it's just a big iphone and that our iphone's can pretty much do the same exact thing. For the past few years I've only been using a MacBook Air and iPhone and I pretty much get everything done.

    My 67 year old mom, 40 year old wife, and 5 year old daughter all use iPads exclusively. Mom never used computers before. Wife switched from PC and never looked back. True they are not power users, don't create content, but there are many more consumers than creators, and iPad perfectly addresses that market. So your single opinion is not representative.
  • Reply 75 of 219
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,666member
    The Apple Watch is at least as useful as any other timepiece out there, of which billions have been sold over the past century. It's also considerably more beautiful than most of the others out there.

    Those are the primary reasons I bought mine, and wear it all the time, every day.

    I'm not sure why people insist on arguing necessity or "usefulness" of a wrist-mounted clock - it's not like the concept hasn't been proven over and over for a hundred years now. Go ahead and tell people just how useless their Watch is, just like your boneheaded great-great-great grandfather did back in 1919.

    (Indeed, it is arguably more useful for telling time than the smartphone, which needs to be fumbled out of the pocket for that.)


    As for everything else it does: to me, that's bonus, but if the recent announcement of watchOS 2 is anything to go by, it will substantially increase in value to me over the coming years.



    Oh, and as for the iPad: I literally would not be doing the job that paid for my Apple Watch if I didn't have the iPad and Set List Maker to base it upon.
  • Reply 76 of 219

    CNBC would report that a beheading was done by accident even if they were standing in front of the scene.

  • Reply 77 of 219
    The CNBC Reports are simply wrong!

    I'm simply a consumer with no association with Apple and no axe to grind.

    The current Apple Watch is awesome! The next one will be even better.

    The Haptic tap on my wrist for text messages and calandar, phone calls on the Watch, and so much more make it a great experience. And Siri works well, even better than on the iPhone.

    It's well designed and will only get better, especially with WatchOS2 native app release.

    I didn't think I needed it until I received the Apple Watch; Now I almost can't live without it!

    Love this new product!
  • Reply 78 of 219
    jmc54jmc54 Posts: 207member
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    CNBC would report that a beheading was done by accident even if they were standing in front of the scene.




    It would be deemed: Workplace violence!

  • Reply 79 of 219
    shenshen Posts: 434member
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    Originally Posted by AtlApple View Post

     

    Everything you listed that the Apple Watch can do without an iPhone is already everything I can already do, this is the problem, this is why it's simply a device that is not needed and why there isn't the excitement you often see with new Apple products. 


     

    This is exactly why you don't get it. Everything on your phone could have been done on your laptop. Everything on that could be done on a desktop. Easy access comes in levels and people will choose the level they like. For many, the watch is that level.

  • Reply 80 of 219
    iqatedoiqatedo Posts: 1,828member
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    There are actually engineering reasons for keeping the S1 at 28nm right now; not all of the components reduce appropriately past that. In the future I have no doubt it will be reduced but for the moment it's as good as can be done.



    Are you referring to MEMs devices or their associated circuitry, or some other circuit types?

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