Proposed Senate bill penalizing resistance to decryption requests nears completion, could be introd

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  • Reply 21 of 73
    coolytech said:
    We are a communist country Or land of the free ?
    This is a police state
    williamlondonlondormagman1979tdknoxcornchip
  • Reply 22 of 73
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    You can't force a company to do something that is actually impossible so just make it impossible and then they can just slither back under their rocks and be annoyed.
  • Reply 23 of 73
    If Richard Burr and Dianne Feinstein are your Senators, time to reach out to their office and apply pressure -- politely and respectfully. Tell them you are against the proposed bill. 
    SpamSandwichtdknoxcornchipicoco3
  • Reply 24 of 73
    volcanvolcan Posts: 1,799member
    Why does this forum software only allow 100 characters in the title? In the early days, programmers used to restrict the character count to optimize speed due to limited disk space and memory, but now days there is virtually no penalty whatsoever for using the the full varchar size of 255 characters. Remember Y2K? That is what happens when you are too stingy with data field length. Hell some of the posts in this forum are thousands of characters long and they are trying to save 155 characters? Give me a break.
    edited March 2016 SpamSandwich
  • Reply 25 of 73
    baconstangbaconstang Posts: 1,088member
    Urei1620 said:
    coolytech said:
    We are a communist country Or land of the free ?
    This is a police state
    A terrorist attack is NOT a victory.  
    Enabling Big Brother IS a victory.
    rcfa
  • Reply 26 of 73
    jfc1138 said:
    So fines for asserting constitutional rights of due process such as the right of appeal to court rulings? 

    Thats got no chance in hell passing Constitutional scrutiny. And the tech companies (I. e. Apple) have the pockets to ram that right up to the Supreme Court. 
    The Court doesn't care about the Constitution any longer. Alito and Thomas do, the rest just do whatever they want. 
    SpamSandwichtdknoxewtheckmanicoco3
  • Reply 27 of 73
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,823moderator
    tzeshan said:
    The solution is simple for Apple.  Apple could develop an in house iOS that will decrypt.  IOW, Apple will put protecting customer data on its shoulder. 

    You didn't bother to read my earlier comment.  This in-house iOS will be demanded to be inserted into evidence, just like any forensic tool, and inspected (source code) by a defense attorney's experts.  How long after a few court cases will there be copies in the wild?  Apple knows what it's talking about when they say it'll get out.
    baconstanglondorrcfaSpamSandwichJanNL
  • Reply 28 of 73
    SquSqu Posts: 2member
    So let me get this right congress is trying to propose a bill that would deny a company it's constitutional right to due process? And how would this not get struck down in the courts as unconstitutional. All citizens and corporations are guaranteed fair trials and all possible appeals. 
    baconstangjfc1138londorSpamSandwichtdknoxicoco3
  • Reply 29 of 73
    Highly unlikely to hold up in Appellate Court or Supreme Court. A complete waste of time for show and business as usual for the morons on both sides of the aisle.
    baconstanglondorUrei1620tdknoxcnocbuiicoco3
  • Reply 30 of 73
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,053member
    msantti said:
    ibill said:
    Our government is run by morons.
    Barrack Hussein Obama.

    Head MF in charge.
    Wait until Trump become president, he will order to have NSA back door into every phone by default
    nolamacguycnocbui
  • Reply 31 of 73
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    Morons. Apple's not gonna stand in the FBI's way if they wanna decrypt a phone. Apple is a private company and shouldn't be forced to hack its code. Now we know why Apple is hoarding billions. 
  • Reply 32 of 73
    dr. xdr. x Posts: 282member
    cnocbui said:
    You can't force a company to do something that is actually impossible so just make it impossible and then they can just slither back under their rocks and be annoyed.
    It's not impossible. Apple said that they would have to create software in order to do this but they don't want to create the software as it would make iOS less secure for everyone.

    Is it technically possible to do what the government has ordered?

    Yes, it is certainly possible to create an entirely new operating system to undermine our security features as the government wants. But it’s something we believe is too dangerous to do. The only way to guarantee that such a powerful tool isn’t abused and doesn’t fall into the wrong hands is to never create it.

    Taken from: http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/answers/


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  • Reply 33 of 73
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    tzeshan said:
    The solution is simple for Apple.  Apple could develop an in house iOS that will decrypt.  IOW, Apple will put protecting customer data on its shoulder. 
    What's to stop the FBI from seizing the tool for "security measures"? 
  • Reply 34 of 73
    Let me guess, this is another attempt of that weasel Comey. The FBI is a threat to national security. Everyone let Burr and Feinstein and your representative know that we disapprove of this stupid bill.
    edited March 2016 baconstang
  • Reply 35 of 73
    bluefire1bluefire1 Posts: 1,296member
    These are the kinds of events which explain why there's so much anger in America and why Trump is so popular. Congress can't find time to balance a budget, but they can vote to penalize a private company in record time.

    cornchipjsnow
  • Reply 36 of 73
    bwinskibwinski Posts: 164member
    Daily, I'm astounished that the people who claim to be our representatives, stanf in front of cameras and microphones and spew stupidity and idiocy. Burr, I expect this from. Feinberg...I'm a bit taken aback. Throw this bag in the bay.
    baconstangjsnow
  • Reply 37 of 73
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    bluefire1 said:
    These are the kinds of events which explain why there's so much anger in America and why Trump is so popular. Congress can't find time to balance a budget, but they can vote to penalize a private company in record time.

    Trump is one of the fracking morons proposing 10 times worst! Are you even god damn serious? Do you actually read what you write.
     Another to ignore.
    edited March 2016 nolamacguycornchip
  • Reply 38 of 73
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    jkichline said:
    Time to vote these clowns out of office!!! Of course chances are good that democracy is dead. It seems morons keep getting elected and people really are that stupid.
    Democracy is the reason they’re there. Democracy allows idiots to make the wrong decision every time.
    cornchip
  • Reply 39 of 73
    brakkenbrakken Posts: 687member
    'Yay!' cried the governments of North Korea, China, and Russia, realising they will soon be able to take whatever is left of American innovation. Samsung execs poured Moët down their throats, realising their troubles will soon be over. The True Believers of communism have once and for all realised they got it right, after all, and Totalitarianism for Dummies has rocketed to Amazon's top seller position.
    cornchip
  • Reply 40 of 73
    curt12curt12 Posts: 41member
    msantti said:
    ibill said:
    Our government is run by morons.
    Barrack Hussein Obama.

    Head MF in chage.
    You think any of those authoritarian GOP candidates would be any better?
    baconstangcnocbuiAnicornchipjsnow
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