This whole country was founded by thieves, and, rapists. The biggest theft of all was the good ol' US of A. A lot of it from the Native Americans, and the entire Southwest , to the West Coast was taken from the Mexicans/Spanish.
The Indian tribal territories were also all founded by thieves, murderers and rapists. Tribes even practiced slavery.
Guessing you thought you had a point up there, but oops! You didn't think that through, did ya? They were horrible to each other, other tribes, European settlers, and so were the settlers back. Boo-hoo, whoop-de-do.
Yours is a pretty shoddy foundation to build a centuries old grievance case on.
Also where did the Spanish get it from? And I also think you forgot that before 1821, there were no 'Mexicans'.
Well, except to harass non-whites. That's always been America's favorite pastime.
You’ll want to be careful. If you call someone evil enough, eventually they say, “You want a bad guy? YOU’VE GOT ONE.” In another few years, it might not even matter if we actually had done any of the things you claim, because it won’t have mattered.
The media is blaming the voters now, and not themselves.
I think the best part of this is that the media is now starting to blame white women for voting for Trump. They need to keep doing that, and harder. The more they do it, the more white women will wake the fuck up to what has happened to them and their country.
tallest I think the best part of this is that the media is now starting to blame white women for voting for Trump. They need to keep doing that, and harder. The more they do it, the more white women will wake the fuck up to what has happened to them and their country.
Well there are as many different types of women as there are men. I don't think many married white women would be voting for Tump unless they are being pressured by their husbands. From my limited experience it seems to me most of the eligible single young women voters are far more interested in their nail polish and their Facebook page than politics
As a New Yorker for 35 years all I can say is you fools that voted for him have no clue to what he is all about. This is what he values in order, Trump, pussy, Trump, money, more money, applause, being noticed, pussy and even more money. Charity, public service are not on this list. Fools.
I'm a New Yorker too, and Trump easily got my vote.
I like money too, and I'm about to go and grab a female by the pussy, and they'll like it too! Hell Yeah!
What a bunch of liberal hypocrites. Oh no! He once said the word pussy! How horrible!
He's a straight male who likes women! How disgusting!
GTFO!
That whole hysteria about him being a misogynist was laughable. It's clear anyone who knew much about women, would never talk like that. How exactly do you 'grab' that? Some kind of hooking maneuver with the fingers? Pinching a little bit of skin or hair? He was clearly bullshitting and trying to sound macho, because what he said doesn't even make sense. But like Trump, liberals clearly have no fucking clue about female anatomy either. And It was pretty funny watching supposed adults get hysterical about this being a thing, and then invent victims of a nonsensical boast.
I think that's when the left put the nail in their coffin. Instead of going with Trump being too stupid to know how women work (an actual valid point), they went straight to 'he sexually assaults women'. It betrayed the equal ignorance of the left and exposed their whole philosophy as being no better than fundamental Christian extremists demonizing over plunging necklines. Now that they've been caught out beings g morons, their fragile egos won't let them acknowledge their inherent pettiness, bias and ignorance.
There's a lot of men on the registered sexual offenders list for doing the very thing you claim is impossible.
This whole country was founded by thieves, and, rapists. The biggest theft of all was the good ol' US of A. A lot of it from the Native Americans, and the entire Southwest , to the West Coast was taken from the Mexicans/Spanish.
The Indian tribal territories were also all founded by thieves, murderers and rapists. Tribes even practiced slavery.
Guessing you thought you had a point up there, but oops! You didn't think that through, did ya? They were horrible to each other, other tribes, European settlers, and so were the settlers back. Boo-hoo, whoop-de-do.
Yours is a pretty shoddy foundation to build a centuries old grievance case on.
Also where did the Spanish get it from? And I also think you forgot that before 1821, there were no 'Mexicans'.
This was their land, they did not go to another land and claim it as there's. Europeans murdered and robbed each other as well, they weren't these civil nice people as shown in the movies.
It wasn't just the Spanish, it was also the Mexicans that originally settled all the cities with Spanish names. What did the Americans do? At first act like they were willing to cohabitate but as soon as their numbers grew they took the land and made a border banning the people they stole the land from,and now we want to stop them from coming to the land of their ancestors. Whites have been the most cruel, and brutal race of people in the history of the world. All they've done is oppress people the whole world over, and continue to do so.
I don't think many married white women would be voting for Tump unless they are being pressured by their husbands.
O. M. G. Like totally? So very totally? Women are still slaves to their husbands? It’s literally the current year. THE CURRENT YEAR. What about [list of 500 feminists]? What about women’s “liberation”?! I can’t even. I just can’t even. Sexism still alive and well #smhtbhfam
This was their land, they did not go to another land and claim it as there's.
Europeans were first in the New World.
What did the Americans do?
Win a war. Get over it.
and made a border banning the people they stole the land from
Learn what war is.
and now we want to stop them from coming to the land of their ancestors.
Maybe they shouldn’t have lost the war, then. Don’t dare try to compare immigration policies here.
Whites have been the most cruel, and brutal race of people in the history of the world. All they've done is oppress people the whole world over, and continue to do so.
I’ll give you a shot to say you’re joking here. Just one.
And if Hillary had won there wouldn't have been any need for a letter to the staff because she didn't suggest that she had a problem with Mexicans, Muslims and various other minority groups.
That was one of her huge flaws, that she didn't have a problem with them, and she should have. Any reasonable, non-lobotomized person should. ... I don't need to be nice to Illegal Aliens and I don't need to be nice to Muslim terrorists. That is political correctness taken to the extreme and to dangerous levels and the American people have rejected the extremism of Hillary Clinton and her psychotic friends.
2016 is the beginning of the end for PCness, and it's about damn time. Good riddance.
I haven't logged in here for a long time to comment, but I had to now, and I don't even know where to begin with this. What sort of person are you? How can you say such things? Are you really that ignorant of history or are you just a sociopath (or both)? Why are having empathy and understanding others such foreign concepts to you?
To say (and to pick just one sentance from your painfully-irresponsible ramblings) "Hillary's plan was to import many terrorists into the USA" is just so ignorant I can't believe it. You mean refugees. They're refugees, dude. As in, people whose homes and countries have been decimated, and who are so at danger of being killed or mistreated, and are so oppressed and sick of the horror in the streets outside their homes that they flee their country in search of survival and better lives. Ah. I see. That definitely makes them terrorists. Remind me, who settled the USA? Was it people from a country whose regime they hated? Was it people who wanted a better life? If war broke out in the US, and outside your home the street was littered with corpses, both unknown people and perhaps a family member or a friend, and the apartment block across the road was a burning mass taken apart by a rocket-launcher, would you sit there in your comfy little desk-chair and write these things? Or would you get the hell out of there and find somewhere safe?
Here in the EU refugees are being welcomed, because it's the right thing to do when someone needs help. I don't see these countries here going up in flames. In fact, I've made friends with a few of them and they're amazing people who have endured terrible things. Anyone that says it's a security threat is right, sure, it is. And so is walking down an alley at night. Or carrying a gun in your glove-compartment.
Some Americans spend their whole day screaming and shouting about how great the US is and how amazing you all are and how all others are getting it wrong. No wonder people from countries worse-off are flocking there. If you were in their position you probably would, too.
If you don't know where sentiments like yours lead, read a history book for Christ's sake, any of them from the last 100 years (or further back for that matter. Humanity is an idiotic and sorry story right from when we started talking) and stop spouting such maniacal nonsense. The only way this world goes anywhere is with understanding, empathy, and acceptance. Take a stand when it matters and for the right things, but bleating about minorities causing all your problems is absolute nonsense. If you want the US to be great again, stop complaining and go make it great by doing something inspiring. In your words: more intelligence and less emotion is needed. Take your own advice.
Why don't you let it go. I have gone to this site for years because it is the best for keeping up with Apple news. I can come here and learn and talk about Apple with other people who love Apple and forget about the outside world. We all have political differences but the one thing that we all love is Apple. Do you have to turn this web site into the same kind of propaganda site that that we come here to flee? If so, then I will have to find another web site to learn about all things Apple. I am a conservative, a republican, and a Trump supporter. But if Clinton had won I wouldn't be writing disparaging notes about her and I certainly wouldn't be hating on people who voted for her. My Apple brothers and sisters have only one requirement and that is that we love Apple. The election is over. Trump won. I understand the dismay of Clinton supporters, but can't you find another web site to talk about this and just let us all enjoy Appleinsider?
Why don't you let it go. I have gone to this site for years because it is the best for keeping up with Apple news. I can come here and learn and talk about Apple with other people who love Apple and forget about the outside world. We all have political differences but the one thing that we all love is Apple. Do you have to turn this web site into the same kind of propaganda site that that we come here to flee? If so, then I will have to find another web site to learn about all things Apple. I am a conservative, a republican, and a Trump supporter. But if Clinton had won I wouldn't be writing disparaging notes about her and I certainly wouldn't be hating on people who voted for her. My Apple brothers and sisters have only one requirement and that is that we love Apple. The election is over. Trump won. I understand the dismay of Clinton supporters, but can't you find another web site to talk about this and just let us all enjoy Appleinsider?
You are the most sensible person every to comment on this website. I have no love for Trump but he won the election and now we have to see what his years will bring. There are people on both sides flinging insults at each other here. I can understand Hillary supporters' frustration and shock but I am puzzled by the "still" angry Trump supporters comments, their candidate won. Regardless until those running this website shut down these non Apple and non-tech related comment section, all those with an axe to grind and too much time on their hands will come here in a pointless effort to change the other side's mind.
I don't think many married white women would be voting for Tump unless they are being pressured by their husbands.
O. M. G. Like totally? So very totally? Women are still slaves to their husbands? It’s literally the current year. THE CURRENT YEAR. What about [list of 500 feminists]? What about women’s “liberation”?! I can’t even. I just can’t even. Sexism still alive and well #smhtbhfam
This was their land, they did not go to another land and claim it as there's.
Europeans were first in the New World.
What did the Americans do?
Win a war. Get over it.
and made a border banning the people they stole the land from
Learn what war is.
and now we want to stop them from coming to the land of their ancestors.
Maybe they shouldn’t have lost the war, then. Don’t dare try to compare immigration policies here.
Whites have been the most cruel, and brutal race of people in the history of the world. All they've done is oppress people the whole world over, and continue to do so.
I’ll give you a shot to say you’re joking here. Just one.
What 'New World'? That's such a moronic term. There was absolutely nothing new about it.
Stop starting wars. Why didn't Europeans stay in their home land?
Let's see if I'm joking. Apartheid in South Africa, how did whites become the governing minority on southern tip of a mostly black continent? And what did the whites do to the blacks there?
How did whites become the governing race on Australia? And how did they treat the aboriginals?
Hong Kong, Bombay, white cities on foreign lands. How does that happen? By asking nicely? I think not
OK Tim thanks for letter now go back to work and please fix the tiny email font in ios as email is no longer usable for my company and are going to switch to Android.
Why are having empathy and understanding others such foreign concepts to you?
Because “think of the children” isn’t a valid argument and if you want to commit genocide on yourself, go fucking fight in the wars for them, then.
is just so ignorant I can't believe it.
No, you’re so ignorant I can’t believe it. The words are proven fact by every government institution.
You mean refugees. They're refugees, dude. As in, people whose homes and countries have been decimated, and who are so at danger of being killed or mistreated, and are so oppressed and sick of the horror in the streets outside their homes that they flee their country in search of survival and better lives.
We don’t fucking care. They have no right to enter the country. They have no right to be shipped thousands of miles AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE when they could stay where they are.
Remind me, who settled the USA?
Not people whose ideology explicitly says to kill everyone that doesn’t believe what they believe. And not people who were being forcibly imported into an already existing society.
Or would you get the hell out of there and find somewhere safe?
I’d stop being a fucking coward and fight the people doing it to my country. Which is what I’m doing now; THEY’RE NOT COMING IN.
Here in the EU refugees are being welcomed
And then the welcomers are being gang raped and their entire countries destroyed.
I don't see these countries here going up in flames.
Look the fuck harder, then, you disingenuous coward.
Anyone that says it's a security threat is right, sure, it is.
Thanks for admitting you’re wrong.
Or carrying a gun in your glove-compartment.
That’s literally the opposite of a security threat.
The only way this world goes anywhere is with understanding, empathy, and acceptance.
I care more about the standards of my country not declining, my people remaining safe, alive, and unmolested, the children of my nation not having to fear cruelty and murder, the daughters of my nation not living in terror of forced prostitution, rape, and murder, and the freedoms of my people than I do any number of foreigners, be they sick, dying, traumatized, disabled, innocent, or any number of other things. I would turn them away, with deadly force if necessary. If it was necessary for my nation–my people–to survive, I would gun them down where they stand. Every single last one of them.
That may sound harsh, but it’s the reality in which we live. What has altruism done for my people? Crime, rape epidemics, terrorism, a police surveillance state, and a constant stream of propaganda preaching self-hatred and destruction. What benefits has white humanitarianism brought? Declining standards, eroding civilization, corroding civil liberties and securities, and derision, hatred, and scorn. What kind of gratitude has been shown to us for all the good we have wrought? The gratitude of bullets, torture, theft, mayhem, fire, rape, and after all of that criticism and calls for our genocide and total extinction. We help people and yet we are beaten, mocked, demonized, vilified, crucified, and murdered.
ENOUGH.
Fuck these people. No, I do not care that they are suffering. I revel in it. Close the borders, deport the squatters and criminals, execute the disobedient, and sink a few “migrant” boats for good measure to send the message that such behavior will neither be tolerated nor rewarded. No more tolerance. No more aid. No more altruism. Our goodness has been met with sheer evil, our graciousness with contempt, and our existence with genocide. No more.
When they are ready to behave like civilized people, ready to respond to our generosity in kind, then maybe we can consider humanitarianism and mutual aid, with them remaining in their countries of origin. As it is? They’re lucky that we haven’t yet sought revenge. Reducing them and their families to smoldering ash would be an appropriate response, and yet we only call for them to go back where they came from.
That’s it. That’s all we require of them. To go away.
It’s the last remaining kindness they might possibly deserve.
What 'New World'? That's such a moronic term. There was absolutely nothing new about it.
lol
Stop starting wars. Why didn't Europeans stay in their home land?
lol
Apartheid in South Africa
Literally the best QoL on the entire continent. South Africa was swarmed with millions of illegal immigrant blacks, coming down from the north (since, you know, they didn’t live on the Cape when the Europeans settled there) to get the benefits that living in South Africa provided them.
how did whites become the governing minority on southern tip of a mostly black continent?
BECAUSE NO BLACKS LIVED THERE BEFORE THE WHITES SETTLED IT.
And what did the whites do to the blacks there?
Give them their own self-governing internal nations at the white taxpayers’ expense.
How did whites become the governing race on Australia?
By creating government in the first place.
By asking nicely? I think not
I’m still not sure if you’re joking about the original point, so I’d love a hard and fast confirmation either way.
Yikes. Ok, look I really didn't want to upset anyone this much, I'm sorry for getting you so worked up. Personally I like to think that working together will improve things. But of course I do understand that people have different viewpoints, so I'm glad you're happy with yours. You really don't have to call me a "disingenuous coward" as you don't know who I am.
I read history books as a hobby, and all I see is humanity treating each other terribly time and time over, I'm also friends with a wonderful diplomat working for the UN, and some of the stories he tells are really hopeful, and some plain chilling (he often works in the Congo and it's a nightmare there). I'm an optimist and prefer to play things the hopeful way, which explains my position. It just really freaks me out when I see things starting to go south like has happened in history so many times. If all we do with our infinitesimal time on this planet is find reasons for drama and mistreating each other, well, that's pretty lame & a waste of human potential. And of course I don't want to fight in a war - it's not about being a coward, it's that I'd be killed in the first minute and that's boring - I just want to live my own life with cool people and be safe and happy, and I feel confident saying you do too. We'll just go about it in different ways.
Bottom line, this fighting (especially online!) isn't worth it, so again, apologies. I'm sure you're actually a great person and I don't care who won your election as long as people don't get hurt afterwards, but this whole campaign seems to have brought out the extremist in everyone & it's really scary. If I don't weigh in with my opinion & stand up for what I believe that'd be cowardly, right?
Why are having empathy and understanding others such foreign concepts to you?
Because “think of the children” isn’t a valid argument and if you want to commit genocide on yourself, go fucking fight in the wars for them, then.
is just so ignorant I can't believe it.
No, you’re so ignorant I can’t believe it. The words are proven fact by every government institution.
You mean refugees. They're refugees, dude. As in, people whose homes and countries have been decimated, and who are so at danger of being killed or mistreated, and are so oppressed and sick of the horror in the streets outside their homes that they flee their country in search of survival and better lives.
We don’t fucking care. They have no right to enter the country. They have no right to be shipped thousands of miles AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE when they could stay where they are.
Remind me, who settled the USA?
Not people whose ideology explicitly says to kill everyone that doesn’t believe what they believe. And not people who were being forcibly imported into an already existing society.
Or would you get the hell out of there and find somewhere safe?
I’d stop being a fucking coward and fight the people doing it to my country. Which is what I’m doing now; THEY’RE NOT COMING IN.
Here in the EU refugees are being welcomed
And then the welcomers are being gang raped and their entire countries destroyed.
I don't see these countries here going up in flames.
Look the fuck harder, then, you disingenuous coward.
Anyone that says it's a security threat is right, sure, it is.
Thanks for admitting you’re wrong.
Or carrying a gun in your glove-compartment.
That’s literally the opposite of a security threat.
The only way this world goes anywhere is with understanding, empathy, and acceptance.
I care more about the standards of my country not declining, my people remaining safe, alive, and unmolested, the children of my nation not having to fear cruelty and murder, the daughters of my nation not living in terror of forced prostitution, rape, and murder, and the freedoms of my people than I do any number of foreigners, be they sick, dying, traumatized, disabled, innocent, or any number of other things. I would turn them away, with deadly force if necessary. If it was necessary for my nation–my people–to survive, I would gun them down where they stand. Every single last one of them.
That may sound harsh, but it’s the reality in which we live. What has altruism done for my people? Crime, rape epidemics, terrorism, a police surveillance state, and a constant stream of propaganda preaching self-hatred and destruction. What benefits has white humanitarianism brought? Declining standards, eroding civilization, corroding civil liberties and securities, and derision, hatred, and scorn. What kind of gratitude has been shown to us for all the good we have wrought? The gratitude of bullets, torture, theft, mayhem, fire, rape, and after all of that criticism and calls for our genocide and total extinction. We help people and yet we are beaten, mocked, demonized, vilified, crucified, and murdered.
ENOUGH.
Fuck these people. No, I do not care that they are suffering. I revel in it. Close the borders, deport the squatters and criminals, execute the disobedient, and sink a few “migrant” boats for good measure to send the message that such behavior will neither be tolerated nor rewarded. No more tolerance. No more aid. No more altruism. Our goodness has been met with sheer evil, our graciousness with contempt, and our existence with genocide. No more.
When they are ready to behave like civilized people, ready to respond to our generosity in kind, then maybe we can consider humanitarianism and mutual aid, with them remaining in their countries of origin. As it is? They’re lucky that we haven’t yet sought revenge. Reducing them and their families to smoldering ash would be an appropriate response, and yet we only call for them to go back where they came from.
That’s it. That’s all we require of them. To go away.
It’s the last remaining kindness they might possibly deserve.
What 'New World'? That's such a moronic term. There was absolutely nothing new about it.
lol
Stop starting wars. Why didn't Europeans stay in their home land?
lol
Apartheid in South Africa
Literally the best QoL on the entire continent. South Africa was swarmed with millions of illegal immigrant blacks, coming down from the north (since, you know, they didn’t live on the Cape when the Europeans settled there) to get the benefits that living in South Africa provided them.
how did whites become the governing minority on southern tip of a mostly black continent?
BECAUSE NO BLACKS LIVED THERE BEFORE THE WHITES SETTLED IT.
And what did the whites do to the blacks there?
Give them their own self-governing internal nations at the white taxpayers’ expense.
How did whites become the governing race on Australia?
By creating government in the first place.
By asking nicely? I think not
I’m still not sure if you’re joking about the original point, so I’d love a hard and fast confirmation either way.
Answer the question , why didn't Europeans stay where the fuck they were? Why did they come to the 'New World'?
Yikes. Ok, look I really didn't want to upset anyone this much, I'm sorry for getting you so worked up. Personally I like to think that working together will improve things. But of course I do understand that people have different viewpoints, so I'm glad you're happy with yours. You really don't have to call me a "disingenuous coward" as you don't know who I am.
I read history books as a hobby, and all I see is humanity treating each other terribly time and time over, I'm also friends with a wonderful diplomat working for the UN, and some of the stories he tells are really hopeful, and some plain chilling (he often works in the Congo and it's a nightmare there). I'm an optimist and prefer to play things the hopeful way, which explains my position. It just really freaks me out when I see things starting to go south like has happened in history so many times. If all we do with our infinitesimal time on this planet is find reasons for drama and mistreating each other, well, that's pretty lame & a waste of human potential. And of course I don't want to fight in a war - it's not about being a coward, it's that I'd be killed in the first minute and that's boring - I just want to live my own life with cool people and be safe and happy, and I feel confident saying you do too. We'll just go about it in different ways.
Bottom line, this fighting (especially online!) isn't worth it, so again, apologies. I'm sure you're actually a great person and I don't care who won your election as long as people don't get hurt afterwards, but this whole campaign seems to have brought out the extremist in everyone & it's really scary. If I don't weigh in with my opinion & stand up for what I believe that'd be cowardly, right?
Jimzip
tallest... is absolutely by a mile the most radical commenter on this site. He goes for the throat each time, and has not limits on how fowl his insults are, it is as if he thinks nobody is reading this. I have given up on trying to use history as a way to show what paths we repeat as humans because conspiracy foil hat wearers will deny everything written in a book, and brush off any living person's actual witness or experience of events. There are many uncivil people here who can only shout insults at others, it is exhausting and I will stop leaving comments and I suggest the rest of us just let them have this sandbox to poop in.
mmm is he trolling or just a complete numpty or both?
Done crying over the election? TPP just got canceled, too, as the Europeans gave up on it now that Trump won. The EU doesn’t have much longer to live, either. Get used to historical facts and sound economics being public again.
What kind of stupid comment is that? What would be the point of me posting at all if no one was reading it? It’s this kind of zero-thought garbage that justifies my shortness.
I have given up on trying to use history as a way to show what paths we repeat as humans because conspiracy foil hat wearers will deny everything written in a book, and brush off any living person's actual witness or experience of events.
Careful, now. Because you deny books and experiences, yourself.
Yikes. Ok, look I really didn't want to upset anyone this much, I'm sorry for getting you so worked up. Personally I like to think that working together will improve things. But of course I do understand that people have different viewpoints, so I'm glad you're happy with yours. You really don't have to call me a "disingenuous coward" as you don't know who I am.
I read history books as a hobby, and all I see is humanity treating each other terribly time and time over, I'm also friends with a wonderful diplomat working for the UN, and some of the stories he tells are really hopeful, and some plain chilling (he often works in the Congo and it's a nightmare there). I'm an optimist and prefer to play things the hopeful way, which explains my position. It just really freaks me out when I see things starting to go south like has happened in history so many times. If all we do with our infinitesimal time on this planet is find reasons for drama and mistreating each other, well, that's pretty lame & a waste of human potential. And of course I don't want to fight in a war - it's not about being a coward, it's that I'd be killed in the first minute and that's boring - I just want to live my own life with cool people and be safe and happy, and I feel confident saying you do too. We'll just go about it in different ways.
Bottom line, this fighting (especially online!) isn't worth it, so again, apologies. I'm sure you're actually a great person and I don't care who won your election as long as people don't get hurt afterwards, but this whole campaign seems to have brought out the extremist in everyone & it's really scary. If I don't weigh in with my opinion & stand up for what I believe that'd be cowardly, right?
Jimzip
tallest... is absolutely by a mile the most radical commenter on this site. He goes for the throat each time, and has not limits on how fowl his insults are, it is as if he thinks nobody is reading this. I have given up on trying to use history as a way to show what paths we repeat as humans because conspiracy foil hat wearers will deny everything written in a book, and brush off any living person's actual witness or experience of events. There are many uncivil people here who can only shout insults at others, it is exhausting and I will stop leaving comments and I suggest the rest of us just let them have this sandbox to poop in.
Actually, I found him to be an astounding intelligent individual who generally is exceedingly perceptive and educated in the topics that he posts about. I appreciate many of the points that he makes, even the ones that I disagree with, and he frequently educates me.
I'm well aware of the fact that he rubs some people the wrong way but have absolutely no problem with his method or delivery because I focus on his points. I wish there were more like him.
Tallest, don't ever change. And don't ever stop posting.
Yikes. Ok, look I really didn't want to upset anyone this much, I'm sorry for getting you so worked up. Personally I like to think that working together will improve things. But of course I do understand that people have different viewpoints, so I'm glad you're happy with yours. You really don't have to call me a "disingenuous coward" as you don't know who I am.
I read history books as a hobby, and all I see is humanity treating each other terribly time and time over, I'm also friends with a wonderful diplomat working for the UN, and some of the stories he tells are really hopeful, and some plain chilling (he often works in the Congo and it's a nightmare there). I'm an optimist and prefer to play things the hopeful way, which explains my position. It just really freaks me out when I see things starting to go south like has happened in history so many times. If all we do with our infinitesimal time on this planet is find reasons for drama and mistreating each other, well, that's pretty lame & a waste of human potential. And of course I don't want to fight in a war - it's not about being a coward, it's that I'd be killed in the first minute and that's boring - I just want to live my own life with cool people and be safe and happy, and I feel confident saying you do too. We'll just go about it in different ways.
Bottom line, this fighting (especially online!) isn't worth it, so again, apologies. I'm sure you're actually a great person and I don't care who won your election as long as people don't get hurt afterwards, but this whole campaign seems to have brought out the extremist in everyone & it's really scary. If I don't weigh in with my opinion & stand up for what I believe that'd be cowardly, right?
Jimzip
tallest... is absolutely by a mile the most radical commenter on this site. He goes for the throat each time, and has not limits on how fowl his insults are, it is as if he thinks nobody is reading this. I have given up on trying to use history as a way to show what paths we repeat as humans because conspiracy foil hat wearers will deny everything written in a book, and brush off any living person's actual witness or experience of events. There are many uncivil people here who can only shout insults at others, it is exhausting and I will stop leaving comments and I suggest the rest of us just let them have this sandbox to poop in.
Actually, I found him to be an astounding intelligent individual who generally is exceedingly perceptive and educated in the topics that he posts about. I appreciate many of the points that he makes, even the ones that I disagree with, and he frequently educates me.
I'm well aware of the fact that he rubs some people the wrong way but have absolutely no problem with his method or delivery because I focus on his points. I wish there were more like him.
Tallest, don't ever change. And don't ever stop posting.
If he's so smart why didn't he answer my question? Why, because his answer is going to be the same answer why people come to America now.
Actually, I found him to be an astounding intelligent individual who generally is exceedingly perceptive and educated in the topics that he posts about. I appreciate many of the points that he makes, even the ones that I disagree with, and he frequently educates me.
I'm well aware of the fact that he rubs some people the wrong way but have absolutely no problem with his method or delivery because I focus on his points. I wish there were more like him.
Tallest, don't ever change. And don't ever stop posting.
I’m too short with people and i don’t always explain things fully because I expect the reader to be more well informed than I am. I’d say I’m overcompensating for my broken memory, but then I go and forget something so fundamental that it stops being ‘over-‘. Thanks for the support, though.
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Guessing you thought you had a point up there, but oops! You didn't think that through, did ya?
They were horrible to each other, other tribes, European settlers, and so were the settlers back.
Boo-hoo, whoop-de-do.
Yours is a pretty shoddy foundation to build a centuries old grievance case on.
Also where did the Spanish get it from? And I also think you forgot that before 1821, there were no 'Mexicans'.
Yeah, it’ll show the world just how weak commie China is.
eliangonzal said: lol
You’ll want to be careful. If you call someone evil enough, eventually they say, “You want a bad guy? YOU’VE GOT ONE.” In another few years, it might not even matter if we actually had done any of the things you claim, because it won’t have mattered.
Not much of an argument.
If you’re not going to reply to anything quoted, don’t quote it. Don’t make people scroll unnecessarily.
I think the best part of this is that the media is now starting to blame white women for voting for Trump. They need to keep doing that, and harder. The more they do it, the more white women will wake the fuck up to what has happened to them and their country.
It wasn't just the Spanish, it was also the Mexicans that originally settled all the cities with Spanish names. What did the Americans do? At first act like they were willing to cohabitate but as soon as their numbers grew they took the land and made a border banning the people they stole the land from,and now we want to stop them from coming to the land of their ancestors. Whites have been the most cruel, and brutal race of people in the history of the world. All they've done is oppress people the whole world over, and continue to do so.
10/10, I actually chuckled.
Europeans were first in the New World.
Win a war. Get over it.
Learn what war is.
Maybe they shouldn’t have lost the war, then. Don’t dare try to compare immigration policies here.
I’ll give you a shot to say you’re joking here. Just one.
To say (and to pick just one sentance from your painfully-irresponsible ramblings) "Hillary's plan was to import many terrorists into the USA" is just so ignorant I can't believe it. You mean refugees. They're refugees, dude. As in, people whose homes and countries have been decimated, and who are so at danger of being killed or mistreated, and are so oppressed and sick of the horror in the streets outside their homes that they flee their country in search of survival and better lives. Ah. I see. That definitely makes them terrorists. Remind me, who settled the USA? Was it people from a country whose regime they hated? Was it people who wanted a better life? If war broke out in the US, and outside your home the street was littered with corpses, both unknown people and perhaps a family member or a friend, and the apartment block across the road was a burning mass taken apart by a rocket-launcher, would you sit there in your comfy little desk-chair and write these things? Or would you get the hell out of there and find somewhere safe?
Here in the EU refugees are being welcomed, because it's the right thing to do when someone needs help. I don't see these countries here going up in flames. In fact, I've made friends with a few of them and they're amazing people who have endured terrible things. Anyone that says it's a security threat is right, sure, it is. And so is walking down an alley at night. Or carrying a gun in your glove-compartment.
Some Americans spend their whole day screaming and shouting about how great the US is and how amazing you all are and how all others are getting it wrong. No wonder people from countries worse-off are flocking there. If you were in their position you probably would, too.
If you don't know where sentiments like yours lead, read a history book for Christ's sake, any of them from the last 100 years (or further back for that matter. Humanity is an idiotic and sorry story right from when we started talking) and stop spouting such maniacal nonsense. The only way this world goes anywhere is with understanding, empathy, and acceptance. Take a stand when it matters and for the right things, but bleating about minorities causing all your problems is absolute nonsense. If you want the US to be great again, stop complaining and go make it great by doing something inspiring. In your words: more intelligence and less emotion is needed. Take your own advice.
Jimzip
Why don't you let it go. I have gone to this site for years because it is the best for keeping up with Apple news. I can come here and learn and talk about Apple with other people who love Apple and forget about the outside world. We all have political differences but the one thing that we all love is Apple. Do you have to turn this web site into the same kind of propaganda site that that we come here to flee? If so, then I will have to find another web site to learn about all things Apple. I am a conservative, a republican, and a Trump supporter. But if Clinton had won I wouldn't be writing disparaging notes about her and I certainly wouldn't be hating on people who voted for her. My Apple brothers and sisters have only one requirement and that is that we love Apple. The election is over. Trump won. I understand the dismay of Clinton supporters, but can't you find another web site to talk about this and just let us all enjoy Appleinsider?
Stop starting wars. Why didn't Europeans stay in their home land?
Let's see if I'm joking. Apartheid in South Africa, how did whites become the governing minority on southern tip of a mostly black continent? And what did the whites do to the blacks there? How did whites become the governing race on Australia? And how did they treat the aboriginals? Hong Kong, Bombay, white cities on foreign lands. How does that happen? By asking nicely? I think not
No, you’re so ignorant I can’t believe it. The words are proven fact by every government institution.
We don’t fucking care. They have no right to enter the country. They have no right to be shipped thousands of miles AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE when they could stay where they are.
Not people whose ideology explicitly says to kill everyone that doesn’t believe what they believe. And not people who were being forcibly imported into an already existing society.
I’d stop being a fucking coward and fight the people doing it to my country. Which is what I’m doing now; THEY’RE NOT COMING IN.
And then the welcomers are being gang raped and their entire countries destroyed.
Look the fuck harder, then, you disingenuous coward.
Thanks for admitting you’re wrong.
That’s literally the opposite of a security threat.
I care more about the standards of my country not declining, my people remaining safe, alive, and unmolested, the children of my nation not having to fear cruelty and murder, the daughters of my nation not living in terror of forced prostitution, rape, and murder, and the freedoms of my people than I do any number of foreigners, be they sick, dying, traumatized, disabled, innocent, or any number of other things. I would turn them away, with deadly force if necessary. If it was necessary for my nation–my people–to survive, I would gun them down where they stand. Every single last one of them.
That may sound harsh, but it’s the reality in which we live. What has altruism done for my people? Crime, rape epidemics, terrorism, a police surveillance state, and a constant stream of propaganda preaching self-hatred and destruction. What benefits has white humanitarianism brought? Declining standards, eroding civilization, corroding civil liberties and securities, and derision, hatred, and scorn. What kind of gratitude has been shown to us for all the good we have wrought? The gratitude of bullets, torture, theft, mayhem, fire, rape, and after all of that criticism and calls for our genocide and total extinction. We help people and yet we are beaten, mocked, demonized, vilified, crucified, and murdered.
ENOUGH.
Fuck these people. No, I do not care that they are suffering. I revel in it. Close the borders, deport the squatters and criminals, execute the disobedient, and sink a few “migrant” boats for good measure to send the message that such behavior will neither be tolerated nor rewarded. No more tolerance. No more aid. No more altruism. Our goodness has been met with sheer evil, our graciousness with contempt, and our existence with genocide. No more.
When they are ready to behave like civilized people, ready to respond to our generosity in kind, then maybe we can consider humanitarianism and mutual aid, with them remaining in their countries of origin. As it is? They’re lucky that we haven’t yet sought revenge. Reducing them and their families to smoldering ash would be an appropriate response, and yet we only call for them to go back where they came from.
That’s it. That’s all we require of them. To go away.
It’s the last remaining kindness they might possibly deserve.
dasanman69 said: lollol
Literally the best QoL on the entire continent. South Africa was swarmed with millions of illegal immigrant blacks, coming down from the north (since, you know, they didn’t live on the Cape when the Europeans settled there) to get the benefits that living in South Africa provided them.
BECAUSE NO BLACKS LIVED THERE BEFORE THE WHITES SETTLED IT.
Give them their own self-governing internal nations at the white taxpayers’ expense.
By creating government in the first place.
I’m still not sure if you’re joking about the original point, so I’d love a hard and fast confirmation either way.
I read history books as a hobby, and all I see is humanity treating each other terribly time and time over, I'm also friends with a wonderful diplomat working for the UN, and some of the stories he tells are really hopeful, and some plain chilling (he often works in the Congo and it's a nightmare there). I'm an optimist and prefer to play things the hopeful way, which explains my position. It just really freaks me out when I see things starting to go south like has happened in history so many times. If all we do with our infinitesimal time on this planet is find reasons for drama and mistreating each other, well, that's pretty lame & a waste of human potential. And of course I don't want to fight in a war - it's not about being a coward, it's that I'd be killed in the first minute and that's boring - I just want to live my own life with cool people and be safe and happy, and I feel confident saying you do too. We'll just go about it in different ways.
Bottom line, this fighting (especially online!) isn't worth it, so again, apologies. I'm sure you're actually a great person and I don't care who won your election as long as people don't get hurt afterwards, but this whole campaign seems to have brought out the extremist in everyone & it's really scary. If I don't weigh in with my opinion & stand up for what I believe that'd be cowardly, right?
Jimzip
mmm is he trolling or just a complete numpty or both?
What kind of stupid comment is that? What would be the point of me posting at all if no one was reading it? It’s this kind of zero-thought garbage that justifies my shortness.
Careful, now. Because you deny books and experiences, yourself.
I'm well aware of the fact that he rubs some people the wrong way but have absolutely no problem with his method or delivery because I focus on his points. I wish there were more like him.
Tallest, don't ever change. And don't ever stop posting.
When you answer mine, I’ll tell you what a non sequitur yours was.