This is essentially a repackaged tablet. Who will pay $230 on such a cheap tablet?
A tablet that can't be cordless
While I have issues with Siri's lack of ability to respond meaningfully to a large number of commands (such as setting a meeting with someone that is not in the Contacts list; or scheduling meetings in an Outlook Calendar; or play music on Bluetooth speakers; and so on); I would appreciate it if Apple came out with accessories that make Siri more useful at home, rather than a new product. For example, Apple, or a third party manufacturer, could release "Siri Dots" with good microphones that connect to the iPhone Siri via Bluetooth or AirPlay. Or sell a stand with built-in speakers and microphones (so the bottom part of this Amazon Echo Show). We will see soon.
(The bigger issue that Apple has is the limited usefulness of Siri, eg, it cannot yet actually do a lot of stuff...)
NY1822 said: Voice technology is at least 10 years old ...Siri was released 6 years ago and was in the works years before that. Technology that hits the market today was invented 5 years before coming to market in some cases.
My point is Google and Facebook will create their own hardware as a platform to show more ads
"Voice technology" has existed a lot longer than 10 years. What does that have to do with Alexa as a digital personal assistant or the Echo family has offering an amazing range of voice commands and Skills (3rd-party apps)? If Amazon coming out with Alexa after Apple launched Siri means it shouldn't exist, then neither should Siri.
Your points have nothing to do with my original statement....The point was Bezos as an innovator...the word innovator is thrown around too loosely...i don't consider someone an innovator if they come out with a product that has already existed in some shape or form. I am not knocking the product (one that has sold around 10 million in 3 years with price points ranging from $30 with promotions to $200)
NY1822 said: Voice technology is at least 10 years old ...Siri was released 6 years ago and was in the works years before that. Technology that hits the market today was invented 5 years before coming to market in some cases.
My point is Google and Facebook will create their own hardware as a platform to show more ads
"Voice technology" has existed a lot longer than 10 years. What does that have to do with Alexa as a digital personal assistant or the Echo family has offering an amazing range of voice commands and Skills (3rd-party apps)? If Amazon coming out with Alexa after Apple launched Siri means it shouldn't exist, then neither should Siri.
Your points have nothing to do with my original statement....The point was Bezos as an innovator...the word innovator is thrown around too loosely...i don't consider someone an innovator if they come out with a product that has already existed in some shape or form. I am not knocking the product (one that has sold around 10 million in 3 years with price points ranging from $30 with promotions to $200)
It's good to know you don't think Apple is an innovator. I disagree, but you're entailed to believe Apple is an unorginal, me-too company.
I still find it hard to believe how these companies are clearly out of truly innovative ideas and instead fool people with products that offer zero added value and - most of all - that people are actually buying it. I have said it before and will say it again - there's no reason whatsoever to buy and use this product instead of simply using an iPad (or any other tablet for that matter) with its voice assistant enabled and listening. I thought price may be at least one possible justification here, but now I see that's not the case either. But if anybody can think of at least one solid use case for these "smart speakers" (something your tablet or smarphone can't do or perhaps isn't suitable for), please, let me know, because I guess I'm just not getting it.
So basically this is a niche device for the kitchen. As far as connecting with parents or kids can't you do that already with your phone or tablet using FaceTime, Skype etc.?
I would like an Apple-version of this type of device for the kitchen counter.
A counter fixture that has a Today View for the family's events, weather info, Siri, FaceTime, etc. My house would get a lot of use out of that. In some ways, more convenient than using someone's iPad, which is what happens today.
IMO this product I have in mind from Apple is no way shape or form similar to the Echo or Home products' use case.
So basically this is a niche device for the kitchen. As far as connecting with parents or kids can't you do that already with your phone or tablet using FaceTime, Skype etc.?
I would like an Apple-version of this type of device for the kitchen counter.
A counter fixture that has a Today View for the family's events, weather info, Siri, FaceTime, etc. My house would get a lot of use out of that. In some ways, more convenient than using someone's iPad, which is what happens today.
IMO this product I have in mind from Apple is no way shape or form similar to the Echo or Home products' use case.
You can get a used iPad for less than $200 and a new one for under #300 and nothing prevents you from fixing it to your kitchen counter. I don't know if it's just me but this Echo Show concept is just one epic and absurd rip off.
So basically this is a niche device for the kitchen. As far as connecting with parents or kids can't you do that already with your phone or tablet using FaceTime, Skype etc.?
I would like an Apple-version of this type of device for the kitchen counter.
A counter fixture that has a Today View for the family's events, weather info, Siri, FaceTime, etc. My house would get a lot of use out of that. In some ways, more convenient than using someone's iPad, which is what happens today.
IMO this product I have in mind from Apple is no way shape or form similar to the Echo or Home products' use case.
You can get a used iPad for less than $200 and a new one for under #300 and nothing prevents you from fixing it to your kitchen counter. I don't know if it's just me but this Echo Show concept is just one epic and absurd rip off.
I think they are really on the leading edge of creating the market for an in-home artificial intelligence companion/ assistant for millions of people.
I still find it hard to believe how these companies are clearly out of truly innovative ideas and instead fool people with products that offer zero added value and - most of all - that people are actually buying it. I have said it before and will say it again - there's no reason whatsoever to buy and use this product instead of simply using an iPad (or any other tablet for that matter) with its voice assistant enabled and listening. I thought price may be at least one possible justification here, but now I see that's not the case either. But if anybody can think of at least one solid use case for these "smart speakers" (something your tablet or smarphone can't do or perhaps isn't suitable for), please, let me know, because I guess I'm just not getting it.
Better microphones that actually understand what you are trying to say. That's it.
So basically this is a niche device for the kitchen. As far as connecting with parents or kids can't you do that already with your phone or tablet using FaceTime, Skype etc.?
I would like an Apple-version of this type of device for the kitchen counter.
A counter fixture that has a Today View for the family's events, weather info, Siri, FaceTime, etc. My house would get a lot of use out of that. In some ways, more convenient than using someone's iPad, which is what happens today.
IMO this product I have in mind from Apple is no way shape or form similar to the Echo or Home products' use case.
You can get a used iPad for less than $200 and a new one for under #300 and nothing prevents you from fixing it to your kitchen counter. I don't know if it's just me but this Echo Show concept is just one epic and absurd rip off.
I think they are really on the leading edge of creating the market for an in-home artificial intelligence companion/ assistant for millions of people.
In what way exactly? People who use their smartphones/tablets on a daily basis have absolutely no need for such dedicated (and overpriced) device. People who avoid any technology beyond their flip phones are not going to use this in any shape or form either. Most of the people who actually bought the Echo speaker only did it because of the hype, but I don't know a single person still actually using it. You call it artificial intelligence companion for your home, I call it a feature that's been separated from your smartphone/tablet and is now being sold for the price of your whole smartphone/tablet. Truly wise move Amazon, I applaud you.
So basically this is a niche device for the kitchen. As far as connecting with parents or kids can't you do that already with your phone or tablet using FaceTime, Skype etc.?
I would like an Apple-version of this type of device for the kitchen counter.
A counter fixture that has a Today View for the family's events, weather info, Siri, FaceTime, etc. My house would get a lot of use out of that. In some ways, more convenient than using someone's iPad, which is what happens today.
IMO this product I have in mind from Apple is no way shape or form similar to the Echo or Home products' use case.
You can get a used iPad for less than $200 and a new one for under #300 and nothing prevents you from fixing it to your kitchen counter. I don't know if it's just me but this Echo Show concept is just one epic and absurd rip off.
I think they are really on the leading edge of creating the market for an in-home artificial intelligence companion/ assistant for millions of people.
I think they are really on the leading edge of creating the market for an in-home artificial intelligence companion/ assistant for millions of people.
I think they are really on the leading edge of creating the market for
an in-home always on spy and ad slinger that is totally indepedant of current Ad delivery channels. No AI No Companion/Assistant.
The thing is there just to sell you stuff from Amazon and only Amazon.
I still find it hard to believe how these companies are clearly out of truly innovative ideas and instead fool people with products that offer zero added value and - most of all - that people are actually buying it. I have said it before and will say it again - there's no reason whatsoever to buy and use this product instead of simply using an iPad (or any other tablet for that matter) with its voice assistant enabled and listening. I thought price may be at least one possible justification here, but now I see that's not the case either. But if anybody can think of at least one solid use case for these "smart speakers" (something your tablet or smarphone can't do or perhaps isn't suitable for), please, let me know, because I guess I'm just not getting it.
Better microphones that actually understand what you are trying to say. That's it.
Okay well I'm not a native english speaker yet I rarely ever had/have any issues having Siri understand me. But yes, fair enough, this is a good argument, although some real world testing would probably be in order to actually confirm how much better it truly is.
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out with accessories that make Siri more useful at home, rather than a new product. For example, Apple, or a third party manufacturer, could release "Siri Dots" with good microphones that connect to the iPhone Siri via Bluetooth or AirPlay. Or sell a stand with built-in speakers and microphones (so the bottom part of this Amazon Echo Show). We will see soon.
(The bigger issue that Apple has is the limited usefulness of Siri, eg, it cannot yet actually do a lot of stuff...)
A counter fixture that has a Today View for the family's events, weather info, Siri, FaceTime, etc. My house would get a lot of use out of that. In some ways, more convenient than using someone's iPad, which is what happens today.
IMO this product I have in mind from Apple is no way shape or form similar to the Echo or Home products' use case.
There fixed it for you.
I think they are really on the leading edge of creating the market for an in-home always on spy and ad slinger that is totally indepedant of current Ad delivery channels.
No AI
No Companion/Assistant.
The thing is there just to sell you stuff from Amazon and only Amazon.