I gotcha. But how will chewing gum, a skateboard, and egg wash help us?
Well, you can chew the gum while riding your skateboard down to the local grocery store to buy the ingredients to make a really great pastry which would have the egg wash applied to it immediately preceding entrance into the oven and since this is a really great pastry eating it would cause you to enter a zen-like state of happiness thus causing [takes breath] you to forget your PowerBook problems.
I dont think that it is a given that the G4 tower is a dead end. This article suggests that Apple is trying to reach a broader "Tower" market than they can with the G5, and that it is not a stop gap measure.
The problem with the G5 lineup is price. They may be price competitive with top of the line PCs, but when someone has $1000 - $1200 to spend Apple needs an alternative to the iMac /eMac lineup which gives the capability of installing PCI or other expansion cards at some point in time. Without the new tower someone looking for a computer with that capability at that price point will not find a choice from Apple. There is certainly room for the G4 towers to evolve without encroaching upon the G5 lineup IF the price of the CPUs is right. If the G5 CPUs cost about the same or less than the G4 CPUs the G4 tower would find itself in a difficult marketing position.
Also, I can't imagine the lack of security being a forebearer to anything. Remember, Apple announced they will have the G5 on the floor for people to view. I doubt that it's there yet or else there would definitely be security for it. Thus other products could arrive later. That's me being optimistic or else I'll be really pissed.
The problem with the G5 lineup is price. They may be price competitive with top of the line PCs, but when someone has $1000 - $1200 to spend Apple needs an alternative to the iMac /eMac lineup which gives the capability of installing PCI or other expansion cards at some point in time. Without the new tower someone looking for a computer with that capability at that price point will not find a choice from Apple. There is certainly room for the G4 towers to evolve without encroaching up the G5 lineup IF the price of the CPUs is right. If the G5 CPUs cost about the same or less than the G4 CPUs the G4 tower would find itself in a difficult marketing position.
I really doubt Apple will be able to compete with a sub $600 computer like Dell's or HP. Unless they really do something about the eMac that doesn't include a display. But you're right, that low end computer (by itself) is gonna really hurt Apple. I think they need to get off the pedestal and realize they need to make computers for everyone. Thus the fall of really great companies such as SGI.
Also, I can't imagine the lack of security being a forebearer to anything. Remember, Apple announced they will have the G5 on the floor for people to view. I doubt that it's there yet or else there would definitely be security for it. Thus other products could arrive later. That's me being optimistic or else I'll be really pissed.
what do you mean security?
the products are out, there are no black tarps over the booth this year, hell there isn't even a covered banner.
After I get to hear how wonderful Panther will be, and how fantastic the G5's will be, and how we all will be pleased with Apple over the course of the coming decade, or so, I'll be out there on the floor at MacPro whatever tomorrow, actually looking at all the other company's add-ons and goodies. Maybe that will be provide me with something to actually bring home other than one more stupid, unwearable T-shirt of MacWorld NY, however much a collectors' item it is sure to become.8)
Pretty sad. It's sooooooo small. It's weird walking into the Javits Center this year. In the past even when you were outside you felt like you were entering like an Apple world inside of a huge glass building. But this year its just, uncomparable.
Who says that maybe we will just get an announcement of upgraded Powerbooks? That doesn't mean that they HAVE to have them there for everyone to see and use. I'll bet they'll be shipping around the same time as the G5's or possibly sooner. Maybe, they are still in the middle of producing them...
And did you see the thing on ThinkSecret about the 12" and 17" posters being taken down in Apple dealer stores... They were ordered to take them down before the 16th.... coincidence..hu! I think not!
If they launch a new campaign with the 15", who will be using it? Lets see, we have Vern using the 17" and Yao using the 12".... hmmm... who would be the middle-man.........
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Originally posted by gar
what would bean have done in this situation?
think, think, think!!!
I gotcha. But how will chewing gum, a skateboard, and egg wash help us?
Originally posted by Kabeyun
I gotcha. But how will chewing gum, a skateboard, and egg wash help us?
Well, you can chew the gum while riding your skateboard down to the local grocery store to buy the ingredients to make a really great pastry which would have the egg wash applied to it immediately preceding entrance into the oven and since this is a really great pastry eating it would cause you to enter a zen-like state of happiness thus causing [takes breath] you to forget your PowerBook problems.
Originally posted by JCG
http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/...6/30/powermac/
I dont think that it is a given that the G4 tower is a dead end. This article suggests that Apple is trying to reach a broader "Tower" market than they can with the G5, and that it is not a stop gap measure.
The problem with the G5 lineup is price. They may be price competitive with top of the line PCs, but when someone has $1000 - $1200 to spend Apple needs an alternative to the iMac /eMac lineup which gives the capability of installing PCI or other expansion cards at some point in time. Without the new tower someone looking for a computer with that capability at that price point will not find a choice from Apple. There is certainly room for the G4 towers to evolve without encroaching upon the G5 lineup IF the price of the CPUs is right. If the G5 CPUs cost about the same or less than the G4 CPUs the G4 tower would find itself in a difficult marketing position.
Originally posted by RBR
The problem with the G5 lineup is price. They may be price competitive with top of the line PCs, but when someone has $1000 - $1200 to spend Apple needs an alternative to the iMac /eMac lineup which gives the capability of installing PCI or other expansion cards at some point in time. Without the new tower someone looking for a computer with that capability at that price point will not find a choice from Apple. There is certainly room for the G4 towers to evolve without encroaching up the G5 lineup IF the price of the CPUs is right. If the G5 CPUs cost about the same or less than the G4 CPUs the G4 tower would find itself in a difficult marketing position.
I really doubt Apple will be able to compete with a sub $600 computer like Dell's or HP. Unless they really do something about the eMac that doesn't include a display. But you're right, that low end computer (by itself) is gonna really hurt Apple. I think they need to get off the pedestal and realize they need to make computers for everyone. Thus the fall of really great companies such as SGI.
Originally posted by contempt
Also, I can't imagine the lack of security being a forebearer to anything. Remember, Apple announced they will have the G5 on the floor for people to view. I doubt that it's there yet or else there would definitely be security for it. Thus other products could arrive later. That's me being optimistic or else I'll be really pissed.
what do you mean security?
the products are out, there are no black tarps over the booth this year, hell there isn't even a covered banner.
Originally posted by Placebo
Why should there be a banner? What would it say, "Here's the all-new slightly changed Powerbook?
as has been the case with every past event, yes.
I think updates to the newer powerbooks and finally the release of the Alu 15" Powerbook must be coming soon. Maybe not tomorrow... but within weeks.
Pretty sad. It's sooooooo small. It's weird walking into the Javits Center this year. In the past even when you were outside you felt like you were entering like an Apple world inside of a huge glass building. But this year its just, uncomparable.
And did you see the thing on ThinkSecret about the 12" and 17" posters being taken down in Apple dealer stores... They were ordered to take them down before the 16th.... coincidence..hu! I think not!
If they launch a new campaign with the 15", who will be using it? Lets see, we have Vern using the 17" and Yao using the 12".... hmmm... who would be the middle-man.........
someone posted on macroumours about store pulling down powerbook posters but there was no reference to this comment.
we'll see...