I had posted this in my PB thread before JLL got it closed by linking to an iBook thread which had nothing to do with my topic and EmAn not investigating further closed it.
So anyway, here's what I posted in the now closed thread that has not been discussed in any other thread *ahem*
[quote] 867 G4
256K L2
1 MB L3
30 GB HD
256 MB RAM
Radeon 7500 (32 MB)
COMBO
$2299
1 Ghz G4
256K L2
1 MB L3
40 GB HD
512 MB RAM
Radeon 7500 (32 MB)
COMBO
$2999
From Apple Advertising Literature
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This was posted over at MacNN. Not bad, but not sure either of the likelyhood.
<strong>I had posted this in my PB thread before JLL got it closed by linking to an iBook thread which had nothing to do with my topic and EmAn not investigating further closed it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Excuuuuse me!
The images you had in your post are in that thread which was the only thing I was trying to imply!!
Don't worry KidRed they arbitrarily or inconsistantly close threads all the time, it really has little effect on most of us anyway. The closed link did have its own subject, that another thread just barely got into, but who gives a damn lets just close it because we can. Like this is the only thread talking about a new Powerbook....yeah right try one of 5. Oh well, like it matters anyway, I won't miss it but the casual users will...screw them anyways right <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
The stats look good to me. I wish there was a Radeon 9000 but no dice. We will see Tues. or Wed. I am gonna buy what they release so heres hoping.
<strong>Cnet reports that dealers are expecting new iBooks but have heard nothing from Apple about new Powerbooks. We'll know on Wednesday I guess.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wonder if this isn't the best strategy anyways given the holiday season is around the corner.
A sub $1000 iBook may sell much more than a simple speed bumped Powerbook.
Perhaps Apple will bypass another Powerbook revision and unveil a new form factor at MWSF which is not that far off.
im happy with the new specs... while it would have been nice to ahve a 867 machine instead of the 667 for $200 less, considering i got a deal (20% off) and have had the machine for 2 months now, i say that 2 months of use = 200MHz considering nothing else has changed
It woulda been nice if they had moved to DDR ram to save on batt life tho...
I was planning on selling my current 667 DVI to get the next low end (to my bro), but seeing as nothing but the proc changed, i'll pass (assuming this is true)... I'll probably get my brother to get teh 1300 iBook instead... looks like it is going to be a sweet little machine...
once again apple's laptops are going to be very competitive...
If the iBook price will cap out at 1599 and the low end Powerbook is 2299, there is a big gap in price. A high resolution 14" ibook at 1899 would fill the gap nicely. If Apple wants more sales they are going to have to offer more choices. Dell sells a wide range of labtops aimed at different market segments. Apple tries to use the one size fits all method but it doesn't work.
How about a 13.1" PowerBook for 1799 or something? apple could have the specs on it similar to the 14.1" iBook only it would have a smaller screen and cost more...oh and it would have a G4. Just an idea...
I only heard of ONE who couldn't start his machine afterwards, and it was a owner of a 500 MHz iBook with a Rage chip, and the "hack" only works on iBooks with Radeon chips.
The "hack" works perfectly, and it is certainly a solution.
Historically, Apple has never introduced a new computer this close to Xmas. Only updates have been made this late in the season. Completely new Powerbooks definately are on tap for MWSF as well as iBooks. MWSF should be very interesting.
<strong>Historically, Apple has never introduced a new computer this close to Xmas. Only updates have been made this late in the season. Completely new Powerbooks definately are on tap for MWSF as well as iBooks. MWSF should be very interesting.</strong><hr></blockquote>
So you are saying bumped iBooks and PBs tomorrow and then 2 months later completely new portables? Sorry, if we get updates this week we won't see another one until March or May.
<strong>Historically, Apple has never introduced a new computer this close to Xmas. Only updates have been made this late in the season. Completely new Powerbooks definately are on tap for MWSF as well as iBooks. MWSF should be very interesting.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Historically, Apple has never released an upgrade and then released a new model or upgrade two months later. It should be obvious that since your "definiteness" is based on your intuition and very little evidence is in your favor that nothing you have mentioned is definate at all.
anything that is completely unsupported by apple and would likely void your warranty is NOT a solution</strong><hr></blockquote>
Define "solution" then. It may not be a smart solution or even a good one, but if it is an action or process of solving a problem then it is a solution.
According to your goof-ball definition things that are not solutions include: any part installed by user or anyone else that is not a liscensed Apple technician, use of any non-Apple product (incuding RAM, hardrives, and video cards), and ANY modification done without the written permission of Apple. Doing any of the above things can void the warranty and are completely unsupported by Apple.
I am pretty sure but I think adding non-Apple RAM to my powerbook is a solution to a slow system problem, but not according to your definition since it is not supported by Apple and could likely void my warranty.
Before you go spouting off broad generalizations and putting down other's ideas think about the crap you are going to type. If you are going to attack others ideas just don't type something so false, general, and hypocritical while you do it.
So you are saying bumped iBooks and PBs tomorrow and then 2 months later completely new portables? Sorry, if we get updates this week we won't see another one until March or May.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You are right about this one. That's why I'd rather see them wait until January to release a really nice upgrade instead of a lame PB bump this week and nothing new until the spring. Especially if this week brings a speed bump without an improved GPU. My personal scenario: lame PB bump this week along with a small iBook bump and price cuts means I will get an iBook now and sell it when the significant PB update takes place next spring. No PB upgrade this week means I'll wait to see what January brings... Here's hoping that Apple will surprise us all with that 1GHz PB with 64MB Radeon 9000 this week! Too bad I only hold out a 2% chance of that happening.
You are right about this one. That's why I'd rather see them wait until January to release a really nice upgrade instead of a lame PB bump this week and nothing new until the spring. Especially if this week brings a speed bump without an improved GPU. My personal scenario: lame PB bump this week along with a small iBook bump and price cuts means I will get an iBook now and sell it when the significant PB update takes place next spring. No PB upgrade this week means I'll wait to see what January brings... Here's hoping that Apple will surprise us all with that 1GHz PB with 64MB Radeon 9000 this week! Too bad I only hold out a 2% chance of that happening. </strong><hr></blockquote>
I totally agree with you, I think I am going to get a $1100 dollar iBook, and sell it on ebay when the new Powerbooks come out in May or June. I will buy a ti though with a Radeon 9000, even if its just 32MB type.
So you are saying bumped iBooks and PBs tomorrow and then 2 months later completely new portables? Sorry, if we get updates this week we won't see another one until March or May.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You really can't rely on the past on this as Apple has been breaking the "rules" all year. They are trying to downplay the Expos and release new/improved hardware at more normal intervals. I can see a speedbumped PowerBook now and at the very least, the addition of the Superdrive option in January. If the Superdrives are in production now I can't see them holding onto them for six months. I just hope they can make it to 1 Ghz for this "Holiday" release but I'm not holding my breath.
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So anyway, here's what I posted in the now closed thread that has not been discussed in any other thread *ahem*
[quote] 867 G4
256K L2
1 MB L3
30 GB HD
256 MB RAM
Radeon 7500 (32 MB)
COMBO
$2299
1 Ghz G4
256K L2
1 MB L3
40 GB HD
512 MB RAM
Radeon 7500 (32 MB)
COMBO
$2999
From Apple Advertising Literature
<hr></blockquote>
This was posted over at MacNN. Not bad, but not sure either of the likelyhood.
<strong>I had posted this in my PB thread before JLL got it closed by linking to an iBook thread which had nothing to do with my topic and EmAn not investigating further closed it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Excuuuuse me!
The images you had in your post are in that thread which was the only thing I was trying to imply!!
1st page, post by jwdawso.
[ 11-04-2002: Message edited by: JLL ]</p>
I don't think EmAn has the power to close threads anymore.
[ 11-04-2002: Message edited by: murbot ]</p>
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Excuuuuse me!
The images you had in your post are in that thread which was the only thing I was trying to imply!!
1st page, post by jwdawso.
[ 11-04-2002: Message edited by: JLL ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yea, but your link was about iBooks and not PBs like my thread, so a mod closed the thread thinking it was repetitive.
Anyways, no comments on the specs? I thought I'd here some bitching and moaning or debunks.
The stats look good to me. I wish there was a Radeon 9000 but no dice. We will see Tues. or Wed. I am gonna buy what they release so heres hoping.
[ 11-04-2002: Message edited by: FlashGordon ]</p>
<strong>Cnet reports that dealers are expecting new iBooks but have heard nothing from Apple about new Powerbooks. We'll know on Wednesday I guess.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wonder if this isn't the best strategy anyways given the holiday season is around the corner.
A sub $1000 iBook may sell much more than a simple speed bumped Powerbook.
Perhaps Apple will bypass another Powerbook revision and unveil a new form factor at MWSF which is not that far off.
It woulda been nice if they had moved to DDR ram to save on batt life tho...
I was planning on selling my current 667 DVI to get the next low end (to my bro), but seeing as nothing but the proc changed, i'll pass (assuming this is true)... I'll probably get my brother to get teh 1300 iBook instead... looks like it is going to be a sweet little machine...
once again apple's laptops are going to be very competitive...
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I only heard of ONE who couldn't start his machine afterwards, and it was a owner of a 500 MHz iBook with a Rage chip, and the "hack" only works on iBooks with Radeon chips.
The "hack" works perfectly, and it is certainly a solution.
[ 11-04-2002: Message edited by: JLL ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
anything that is completely unsupported by apple and would likely void your warranty is NOT a solution
<strong>Historically, Apple has never introduced a new computer this close to Xmas. Only updates have been made this late in the season. Completely new Powerbooks definately are on tap for MWSF as well as iBooks. MWSF should be very interesting.</strong><hr></blockquote>
So you are saying bumped iBooks and PBs tomorrow and then 2 months later completely new portables? Sorry, if we get updates this week we won't see another one until March or May.
<strong>Historically, Apple has never introduced a new computer this close to Xmas. Only updates have been made this late in the season. Completely new Powerbooks definately are on tap for MWSF as well as iBooks. MWSF should be very interesting.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Historically, Apple has never released an upgrade and then released a new model or upgrade two months later. It should be obvious that since your "definiteness" is based on your intuition and very little evidence is in your favor that nothing you have mentioned is definate at all.
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anything that is completely unsupported by apple and would likely void your warranty is NOT a solution</strong><hr></blockquote>
Define "solution" then. It may not be a smart solution or even a good one, but if it is an action or process of solving a problem then it is a solution.
According to your goof-ball definition things that are not solutions include: any part installed by user or anyone else that is not a liscensed Apple technician, use of any non-Apple product (incuding RAM, hardrives, and video cards), and ANY modification done without the written permission of Apple. Doing any of the above things can void the warranty and are completely unsupported by Apple.
I am pretty sure but I think adding non-Apple RAM to my powerbook is a solution to a slow system problem, but not according to your definition since it is not supported by Apple and could likely void my warranty.
Before you go spouting off broad generalizations and putting down other's ideas think about the crap you are going to type. If you are going to attack others ideas just don't type something so false, general, and hypocritical while you do it.
[ 11-05-2002: Message edited by: FlashGordon ]</p>
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So you are saying bumped iBooks and PBs tomorrow and then 2 months later completely new portables? Sorry, if we get updates this week we won't see another one until March or May.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You are right about this one. That's why I'd rather see them wait until January to release a really nice upgrade instead of a lame PB bump this week and nothing new until the spring. Especially if this week brings a speed bump without an improved GPU. My personal scenario: lame PB bump this week along with a small iBook bump and price cuts means I will get an iBook now and sell it when the significant PB update takes place next spring. No PB upgrade this week means I'll wait to see what January brings... Here's hoping that Apple will surprise us all with that 1GHz PB with 64MB Radeon 9000 this week!
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You are right about this one. That's why I'd rather see them wait until January to release a really nice upgrade instead of a lame PB bump this week and nothing new until the spring. Especially if this week brings a speed bump without an improved GPU. My personal scenario: lame PB bump this week along with a small iBook bump and price cuts means I will get an iBook now and sell it when the significant PB update takes place next spring. No PB upgrade this week means I'll wait to see what January brings... Here's hoping that Apple will surprise us all with that 1GHz PB with 64MB Radeon 9000 this week!
I totally agree with you, I think I am going to get a $1100 dollar iBook, and sell it on ebay when the new Powerbooks come out in May or June. I will buy a ti though with a Radeon 9000, even if its just 32MB type.
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So you are saying bumped iBooks and PBs tomorrow and then 2 months later completely new portables? Sorry, if we get updates this week we won't see another one until March or May.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You really can't rely on the past on this as Apple has been breaking the "rules" all year. They are trying to downplay the Expos and release new/improved hardware at more normal intervals. I can see a speedbumped PowerBook now and at the very least, the addition of the Superdrive option in January. If the Superdrives are in production now I can't see them holding onto them for six months. I just hope they can make it to 1 Ghz for this "Holiday" release but I'm not holding my breath.