60GB is a good amount of storage, but it remains to be seen ho wthis will work. From what I've read so far, it doesn't look that useful from a photographer's standpoint, mainly because you still need to use another piece of kit -- that ugly belkin card reader thing.
What is needed is for someone to write a driver that works with USB mass storage protocols and a variety of cameras across USB 1.1/2.0 or Firewire. Then it would be worth every penny. Just plug your camera into the iPod, after a few secs the iPod "sees" the camera and starts downloading the pics -- in ANY format, even RAW -- it doesn't need to be able to display them for this purpose, and for large multi-MP pics, it needn't neccessarily display them quickly either. It just needs to be able to get them OFF the camera with a minimum of fuss. You don't really need color at all.
The photo sites are already slamming it for lack of a card reader. They lack vision, what's needed is not a card reader, butthe elimination of it altogether.
And no, CPU power should not be an issue, we're only talking about enough power to run an I/O protocol, plenty of low power devices can.
Digital Camera Rewiew made a very bad report of the Ipod Photo.
The ipod photo lacks a very important things : a card slot reader. It's a shame that the Ipod do not have this feature, if he had it, the Ipod photo would have been extremely usefull for all digital photographers, allowing them to back up their compact card in the Ipod Photo.
I'm still not sold on the red on black color scheme, but all in all those are some really great additions.
iPod Photo is something that's gonna be great for digital picture enthusiasts.
All in all, another great update from Apple!
Actually, its only great for digital picture enthusiasts who want to carry their pictures around on their iPod, but have no problem needing a computer to first load them into, then using iTunes to transfer them to the iPod.
I would think 'most' digital picture enthusiasts' would have really like it to have a card reader built-in. That would make it great for them.
As for the color, at least it shuts up the "I want a color screen showing the album covers, dammit!" people. Although its about time for them to start complaining about
(a) no video
(b) no recording
(c) lack of toast-making capability
(d) S-video out only on the dock
(e) no built-in version of Doom 3
(f) no wireless capabilities to broadcast pictures over any VHF frequency
(g) no wireless capabilities to send to AirportExpress
(h) no wireless capabilities to surf the internet and get email
(i) lack of "pixelating" feature that allows parents to auto 'block out' the good stuff from porn that their children might try putting on the device
(j) a way to generate lists of features that the iPod is missing and automatically send it to Apple to add to their next version
(k) lack of GPS features
(l) lack of CD-burning/ripping abilities
(m) limited battery life (only 15 hours??? WTF Apple?)
(n) extended battery life (15 hours???? WTF Apple? I only need 8, couldn't you add in something else instead???)
Then again, the need for image tank type products may be moot. The cost of memory continues to fall fast an furious. In a week or so, Sandisk will be shipping 8GB, pause... that's EIGHT GIGA BYTES... of SOLID STATE compact flash type 1 memory for under 1000 USD. T'was not long ago that such capacities cost over 10K !!!
At this rate, we'll be looking at 20+ GB capacities by next Christmas, sub $500 prices on 8GB, and 2-4GB cards in the $100-200 range.
Even with a 16MP camera, thems a lotta GB to fill...
The Photo iPod seems to be more about presentation than photo storage. Like iTunes, it syncs with your iPhoto or PS Album library, and I imagine that it doesn't really know what to do with direct imports, as they would probably be erased when you sync, just like iTunes and iPods now. No, I think it's for bringing the pictures you imported and edited from your computer to your relatives and playing back on your TV. It doesn't replace the Belkin photo reader, and I doubt if Apple will ever add any card reader directly to the iPod. It's still for playback, not recording.
I hope it would be a very good idea to add Keynote synchronization too, and a way to connect to a projector.
Oh, and Matsu is right. CF is the floppy of our day, unreliable if ubiquitous. Microdrives will replace these things, and I'd bet that consumer cameras will eventually have high capacity non-removable mini HDs in lieu of them. (Pro cameras will probably still have replacable drives I'd bet.) The ability to do high-speed transfers without draining batteries for too long and cutting out the middle-man that is the CF card is where things should go. Anyway, the point is moot here.
I'e seen this comment pop up a couple places. What exactly does it mean, and why would it be handy?
Sometimes an Artist will take one song and have it on multiple discs, this allows you to weed those type of cuts out, saving disc space. I found 3 such songs on my small library.
Crap! And I bet the sound output doesn't support CoreAudio! Dammit Apple! How can you release hardware and not have it even capable of running all the features of your next OS??
Crap! And I bet the sound output doesn't support CoreAudio! Dammit Apple! How can you release hardware and not have it even capable of running all the features of your next OS??
And how can they release something with only svideo out??? i want component!!!
people that want a card reader on an ipod can go f*** themselves with a memory stick.
that photo site that bashed the ipod photo claims that many photographers could make use of the slot. umm... i'm pretty sure that there's room in those HUGE photo packs for a 12" pbook.
This is NOT an accessory for your digital camera. (Get the Belkin reader if you want that.)
This is a way to view and share your entire photo library. A card reader is irrelevant to that purpose--a purpose which much broader appeal than unloading flash cards, I'm sure.
Yes, both functions can be useful... and iPod supports both if you wish. Don't care about viewing your whole library? Don't get the iPod Photo. Don't care about unloading camera memory cards? Don't get the card reader.
I'm not ready to ditch my 15gb 3G iPod yet, but when i do, it'll be the iPod Photo that i'm after. The colour interface looks excellent, and it's an excellent way to share photos easily, in a small package.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm just stoked that they're offering a 60GB iPod at all. Finally there's something available that I'll be able to have my whole library on with some room to grow. The color screen and photo abilities are just icing on the cake. I've been waiting for this for a while.
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Originally posted by BRussell
It certainly is. And there's a picture of the iPod connected to a TV. But I can't find mention of the video port anywhere.
The headphone jack has been reworked with an extra band.
External RCA cable splits out from the new headphone.
at the bottom, here
What is needed is for someone to write a driver that works with USB mass storage protocols and a variety of cameras across USB 1.1/2.0 or Firewire. Then it would be worth every penny. Just plug your camera into the iPod, after a few secs the iPod "sees" the camera and starts downloading the pics -- in ANY format, even RAW -- it doesn't need to be able to display them for this purpose, and for large multi-MP pics, it needn't neccessarily display them quickly either. It just needs to be able to get them OFF the camera with a minimum of fuss. You don't really need color at all.
The photo sites are already slamming it for lack of a card reader. They lack vision, what's needed is not a card reader, butthe elimination of it altogether.
And no, CPU power should not be an issue, we're only talking about enough power to run an I/O protocol, plenty of low power devices can.
The ipod photo lacks a very important things : a card slot reader. It's a shame that the Ipod do not have this feature, if he had it, the Ipod photo would have been extremely usefull for all digital photographers, allowing them to back up their compact card in the Ipod Photo.
Originally posted by Think
I'm still not sold on the red on black color scheme, but all in all those are some really great additions.
iPod Photo is something that's gonna be great for digital picture enthusiasts.
All in all, another great update from Apple!
Actually, its only great for digital picture enthusiasts who want to carry their pictures around on their iPod, but have no problem needing a computer to first load them into, then using iTunes to transfer them to the iPod.
I would think 'most' digital picture enthusiasts' would have really like it to have a card reader built-in. That would make it great for them.
As for the color, at least it shuts up the "I want a color screen showing the album covers, dammit!" people. Although its about time for them to start complaining about
(a) no video
(b) no recording
(c) lack of toast-making capability
(d) S-video out only on the dock
(e) no built-in version of Doom 3
(f) no wireless capabilities to broadcast pictures over any VHF frequency
(g) no wireless capabilities to send to AirportExpress
(h) no wireless capabilities to surf the internet and get email
(i) lack of "pixelating" feature that allows parents to auto 'block out' the good stuff from porn that their children might try putting on the device
(j) a way to generate lists of features that the iPod is missing and automatically send it to Apple to add to their next version
(k) lack of GPS features
(l) lack of CD-burning/ripping abilities
(m) limited battery life (only 15 hours??? WTF Apple?)
(n) extended battery life (15 hours???? WTF Apple? I only need 8, couldn't you add in something else instead???)
So, let's hear it folks!
Originally posted by segovius
And it shows duplicate songs which I guess could be handy.
I'e seen this comment pop up a couple places. What exactly does it mean, and why would it be handy?
At this rate, we'll be looking at 20+ GB capacities by next Christmas, sub $500 prices on 8GB, and 2-4GB cards in the $100-200 range.
Even with a 16MP camera, thems a lotta GB to fill...
I hope it would be a very good idea to add Keynote synchronization too, and a way to connect to a projector.
Oh, and Matsu is right. CF is the floppy of our day, unreliable if ubiquitous. Microdrives will replace these things, and I'd bet that consumer cameras will eventually have high capacity non-removable mini HDs in lieu of them. (Pro cameras will probably still have replacable drives I'd bet.) The ability to do high-speed transfers without draining batteries for too long and cutting out the middle-man that is the CF card is where things should go. Anyway, the point is moot here.
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Originally posted by Nobody Special
I'e seen this comment pop up a couple places. What exactly does it mean, and why would it be handy?
Sometimes an Artist will take one song and have it on multiple discs, this allows you to weed those type of cuts out, saving disc space. I found 3 such songs on my small library.
Originally posted by Louzer
So, let's hear it folks!
o) Its graphics card doesnt support CoreImage.
Originally posted by curiousuburb
Considering the original QuickTime was 160x120, it's sweet.
Do you mean the QuickTake?
Originally posted by BrunoBruin
o) Its graphics card doesnt support CoreImage.
Crap! And I bet the sound output doesn't support CoreAudio! Dammit Apple! How can you release hardware and not have it even capable of running all the features of your next OS??
Originally posted by herb
Anyone notice the svideo connectoer on the iPod Photo dock:
http://www.apple.com/ipodphoto/autosyncphotos.html
No, no, that's an ADB connector!
Originally posted by Louzer
Do you mean the QuickTake?
No. The first release of QuickTime (video).
1/4 screen resolution in those days was 160x120. Now known as 'postage stamp video'.
Originally posted by Louzer
Crap! And I bet the sound output doesn't support CoreAudio! Dammit Apple! How can you release hardware and not have it even capable of running all the features of your next OS??
And how can they release something with only svideo out??? i want component!!!
people that want a card reader on an ipod can go f*** themselves with a memory stick.
that photo site that bashed the ipod photo claims that many photographers could make use of the slot. umm... i'm pretty sure that there's room in those HUGE photo packs for a 12" pbook.
</pissed off at people that are pissed off>
This is NOT an accessory for your digital camera. (Get the Belkin reader if you want that.)
This is a way to view and share your entire photo library. A card reader is irrelevant to that purpose--a purpose which much broader appeal than unloading flash cards, I'm sure.
Yes, both functions can be useful... and iPod supports both if you wish. Don't care about viewing your whole library? Don't get the iPod Photo. Don't care about unloading camera memory cards? Don't get the card reader.
I think it looks fab.
Lemon Bon Bon
I'm not ready to ditch my 15gb 3G iPod yet, but when i do, it'll be the iPod Photo that i'm after. The colour interface looks excellent, and it's an excellent way to share photos easily, in a small package.
Cool.