Of course like everyone else I want to know if this update creats any more problems. My dad needs his computer now and it's really critical for his work.
Is Quartz Extreme 2D not being enabled why why the framerate on expose is so choppy on my mac G4 since the 10.4 update? did apple disable it when they updated from panther to tiger?
Yes, QE2D was disabled in 10.4.0. It is reenabled by the ATI and NVIDIA driver update for most cards that support Core Image as of 10.4.1, according to ARS.
As for the larger issue of whether or not to do an upgrade during mission-critical project work on deadline, the usual answer is NEVER, unless something required for the project is currently borked and clearly fixed by the update.
If the project is critical and the machine performs adequately now, don't risk any hiccoughs until the deadline has passed.
Just my .02, but I've seen many a tearful student complain that they "only" updated some component or unrelated plug-in the night before deadline, and yet it's "not their fault" that their project was incomplete or lost as a result. Pity doesn't pay for mistakes.
I just downloaded and installed it. The size was 36.3MB. Funny, the whole download and install process only took about 2 minutes and I'm on a wimpy 450MHz sawtooth G4. I'm now running 10.4.1.
(I noticed that it did not optimize after the install. Hope this is not a bad thing).
I saw Software Update optimize the drive on both machines I installed it on, so I don't know what happened with you.
My slow 500 MHz Ti took a good amount of time to boot up after the update. The Activity Monitor reported various md* processes eating up CPU cycles... my guess is that it was updating metadata and indexes while booting.
(not being snarky, just want to understand your comment.)
cause it violates apple's UI sensibilities to have apps in the dock do anything or have any functionality when the app isn't actually open. if the app isn't open then it is just a symbolic link/icon/alias/whatever you want to call it.
Maybe some of you guys are confusing the word quit with reboot/logout.
iCal keeps the date in the dock even if you quit but it resets to July 17 everytime you shut down the computer.
I am new to this argument and for me, the iCal icon returns to Jul 17 after I quit iCal. This was true for 10.4.0 and 10.4.1. In 10.3.9 the icon remained set to the day when it was quit.
I just confirmed this behavior on a second machine. iCal's icon reverts to Jul 17 after quit.
If you logout or restart... its Jul 17, just like after a full startup after shutdown.
I am new to this argument and for me, the iCal icon returns to Jul 17 after I quit iCal. This was true for 10.4.0 and 10.4.1. In 10.3.9 the icon remained set to the day when it was quit.
I just confirmed this behavior on a second machine. iCal's icon reverts to Jul 17 after quit.
If you logout or restart... its Jul 17, just like after a full startup after shutdown.
The Address Book widget still seems to not be consistently enclosing the Area Code in parentheses, even when everything appears properly in the Address Book itself.
For those who think QE2D is now enabled, how can we tell? I've certainly not noticed any GUI improvements. Resizing windows is still stuttery on my new PowerBook.
I click the minimize (orange) button on the window and the quicktime movie genies down into the dock, I go to the dock and click on the quicktime movie and it won't come up... I end up having to quit quicktime.
I click the minimize (orange) button on the window and the quicktime movie genies down into the dock, I go to the dock and click on the quicktime movie and it won't come up... I end up having to quit quicktime.
i had this in 10.4 try using the Window menu and selecting the movie that way.
iCal does change back to July 17th when you quit - this is a change from Panther
Address book is still dodgy - if you type in a name and then click on the number and go out of dashboard when you go back in Address book will not allow you to type.
iTunes widget still lags.
I haven't noticed any improvement - in fact it seems slower at booting.
Well, my Quicktime seems to work really well, down and up equally well, one really cool thing, if you hold down shift while you click the minimise button, the quicktime movie will keep playing while it does it's whole slow motion genie thing, very cool.
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Originally posted by kcmac
And it never will.
Why not?
(not being snarky, just want to understand your comment.)
Originally posted by akhomerun
Of course like everyone else I want to know if this update creats any more problems. My dad needs his computer now and it's really critical for his work.
Is Quartz Extreme 2D not being enabled why why the framerate on expose is so choppy on my mac G4 since the 10.4 update? did apple disable it when they updated from panther to tiger?
Yes, QE2D was disabled in 10.4.0. It is reenabled by the ATI and NVIDIA driver update for most cards that support Core Image as of 10.4.1, according to ARS.
As for the larger issue of whether or not to do an upgrade during mission-critical project work on deadline, the usual answer is NEVER, unless something required for the project is currently borked and clearly fixed by the update.
If the project is critical and the machine performs adequately now, don't risk any hiccoughs until the deadline has passed.
Just my .02, but I've seen many a tearful student complain that they "only" updated some component or unrelated plug-in the night before deadline, and yet it's "not their fault" that their project was incomplete or lost as a result. Pity doesn't pay for mistakes.
Considering I feel that my GPU has been flakey as of late, I'm somewhat glad its not active yet.
At any rate, 10.4.1 installed without a hitch on this G5 as well as my Ti PowerBook. I'll report any problems...
Originally posted by sc_markt
I just downloaded and installed it. The size was 36.3MB. Funny, the whole download and install process only took about 2 minutes and I'm on a wimpy 450MHz sawtooth G4. I'm now running 10.4.1.
(I noticed that it did not optimize after the install. Hope this is not a bad thing).
I saw Software Update optimize the drive on both machines I installed it on, so I don't know what happened with you.
My slow 500 MHz Ti took a good amount of time to boot up after the update. The Activity Monitor reported various md* processes eating up CPU cycles... my guess is that it was updating metadata and indexes while booting.
Originally posted by iPoster
Why not?
(not being snarky, just want to understand your comment.)
cause it violates apple's UI sensibilities to have apps in the dock do anything or have any functionality when the app isn't actually open. if the app isn't open then it is just a symbolic link/icon/alias/whatever you want to call it.
Right now, it says '16', since I quit it before midnight.
I launch it, *quit it again*, and it says '17'.
Don't know why yours isnt?
iCal keeps the date in the dock even if you quit but it resets to July 17 everytime you shut down the computer.
Originally posted by BeigeUser
Maybe some of you guys are confusing the word quit with reboot/logout.
iCal keeps the date in the dock even if you quit but it resets to July 17 everytime you shut down the computer.
I am new to this argument and for me, the iCal icon returns to Jul 17 after I quit iCal. This was true for 10.4.0 and 10.4.1. In 10.3.9 the icon remained set to the day when it was quit.
I just confirmed this behavior on a second machine. iCal's icon reverts to Jul 17 after quit.
If you logout or restart... its Jul 17, just like after a full startup after shutdown.
Originally posted by Xool
I am new to this argument and for me, the iCal icon returns to Jul 17 after I quit iCal. This was true for 10.4.0 and 10.4.1. In 10.3.9 the icon remained set to the day when it was quit.
I just confirmed this behavior on a second machine. iCal's icon reverts to Jul 17 after quit.
If you logout or restart... its Jul 17, just like after a full startup after shutdown.
Yep. It's an icon, not an app.
I click the minimize (orange) button on the window and the quicktime movie genies down into the dock, I go to the dock and click on the quicktime movie and it won't come up... I end up having to quit quicktime.
Originally posted by Ichiban_jay
quicktime go down... quicktime no go up
I click the minimize (orange) button on the window and the quicktime movie genies down into the dock, I go to the dock and click on the quicktime movie and it won't come up... I end up having to quit quicktime.
i had this in 10.4 try using the Window menu and selecting the movie that way.
iCal does change back to July 17th when you quit - this is a change from Panther
Address book is still dodgy - if you type in a name and then click on the number and go out of dashboard when you go back in Address book will not allow you to type.
iTunes widget still lags.
I haven't noticed any improvement - in fact it seems slower at booting.