Well, I'm still holding out hope for a two CPU solution. It might seem like a pain to keep making two versions of all Mac applications, but most things should fit on one DVD. Such an approach would give Apple the most flexibility and options, and IMHO would be most acceptable to investors. I am seeing more and more reasons to go with Intel for some Mac models, but there are good reasons to keep the Power PC too. The STI Cell processor has some very interesting possibilities, and IBM will likely keep improving the Power series, with a lite version for their blade servers. So why wouldn't Apple want the best of both worlds?
Agreed. I can think of no compelling reason for the switch.
Exactly my thoughts when I first heard this rumor. And still I don't see why is this so beneficial for Apple the moment when the PowerPC is going to have the strongest presence ever in the market (IST alliance).
Well, I'm still holding out hope for a two CPU solution. It might seem like a pain to keep making two versions of all Mac applications, but most things should fit on one DVD.
Just try, to talk Adobe and Quark into developing two Mac versions of their apps.
Originally posted by Mark- Card Carrying FanaticRealist
A wholesale switch to Intel x86-family processors still doesn't make sense to me, especially as this alleged move would be a year away and Intel have been - on balance - no better at delivering 90nm technology than IBM or Freescale.
If anything is going to happen, I still believe that far from it being a wholesale switch it will be a licensing of a reference mobo design and a "limited localisation" version of OS X running under Intel that will be licensed to a handful of carefully chosen hardware manufacturers that have regional dominance in China, India and other important developing markets.
Did you see the news that said that IBM was going to some company in the orient to help them get to .65 circuit size.
Toshiba was a partner in Cell technology and the had FAST 128bit processors in 1998 I think.
My guess is part of the problem with PPC is that companies in the orient own most of it !!!
So its price could rise unexpectedly, performance stall with out warning, or it could be involved in unfair practices, like Apple pays more or can't get supplied, because most of it is not a USA intellectual property anymore.
And oversea business especially in the orient is not very honest.
And MS's move to it could just be another bad business move of many, another brain fart, from Billy G.
Did you see the news that said that IBM was going to some company in the orient to help them get to .65 circuit size.
Toshiba was a partner in Cell technology and the had FAST 128bit processors in 1998 I think.
My guess is part of the problem with PPC is that companies in the orient own most of it !!!
So its price could rise unexpectedly, performance stall with out warning, or it could be involved in unfair practices, like Apple pays more or can't get supplied, because most of it is not a USA intellectual property anymore.
And oversea business especially in the orient is not very honest.
And MS's move to it could just be another bad business move of many, another brain fart, from Billy G.
the "orient"?! seriously, have you been under a rock for the past 20 years?
the "orient"?! seriously, have you been under a rock for the past 20 years?
Almost all new chip plants are being built with partners. They simply cost too much. IBM did announce that their new 65nm production would be with a partner. I think it's Toshiba.
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Originally posted by iDave
Agreed. I can think of no compelling reason for the switch.
Also Jobs has been criticising the development of Intel chips. I really don't see this happening.
Originally posted by iDave
Agreed. I can think of no compelling reason for the switch.
Exactly my thoughts when I first heard this rumor. And still I don't see why is this so beneficial for Apple the moment when the PowerPC is going to have the strongest presence ever in the market (IST alliance).
Originally posted by snoopy
Well, I'm still holding out hope for a two CPU solution. It might seem like a pain to keep making two versions of all Mac applications, but most things should fit on one DVD.
Just try, to talk Adobe and Quark into developing two Mac versions of their apps.
Originally posted by Mark- Card Carrying FanaticRealist
A wholesale switch to Intel x86-family processors still doesn't make sense to me, especially as this alleged move would be a year away and Intel have been - on balance - no better at delivering 90nm technology than IBM or Freescale.
If anything is going to happen, I still believe that far from it being a wholesale switch it will be a licensing of a reference mobo design and a "limited localisation" version of OS X running under Intel that will be licensed to a handful of carefully chosen hardware manufacturers that have regional dominance in China, India and other important developing markets.
Did you see the news that said that IBM was going to some company in the orient to help them get to .65 circuit size.
Toshiba was a partner in Cell technology and the had FAST 128bit processors in 1998 I think.
My guess is part of the problem with PPC is that companies in the orient own most of it !!!
So its price could rise unexpectedly, performance stall with out warning, or it could be involved in unfair practices, like Apple pays more or can't get supplied, because most of it is not a USA intellectual property anymore.
And oversea business especially in the orient is not very honest.
And MS's move to it could just be another bad business move of many, another brain fart, from Billy G.
Originally posted by MACchine
Did you see the news that said that IBM was going to some company in the orient to help them get to .65 circuit size.
Toshiba was a partner in Cell technology and the had FAST 128bit processors in 1998 I think.
My guess is part of the problem with PPC is that companies in the orient own most of it !!!
So its price could rise unexpectedly, performance stall with out warning, or it could be involved in unfair practices, like Apple pays more or can't get supplied, because most of it is not a USA intellectual property anymore.
And oversea business especially in the orient is not very honest.
And MS's move to it could just be another bad business move of many, another brain fart, from Billy G.
the "orient"?! seriously, have you been under a rock for the past 20 years?
Originally posted by concentricity
the "orient"?! seriously, have you been under a rock for the past 20 years?
ROFLMAO
the CPUs will be made by "chinamen"
Originally posted by concentricity
the "orient"?! seriously, have you been under a rock for the past 20 years?
ONE HALF HOUR TO GO!
Sorry couldn't help it
Originally posted by concentricity
the "orient"?! seriously, have you been under a rock for the past 20 years?
Almost all new chip plants are being built with partners. They simply cost too much. IBM did announce that their new 65nm production would be with a partner. I think it's Toshiba.
Originally posted by melgross
ONE HALF HOUR TO GO!
Sorry couldn't help it
hey... you stole my thunder
Originally posted by sunilraman
30 minutes to go bitches. that's right, you heard me. let's fucking get this over with
HA! I beat you by two minutes. It would have been more, but I couldn't get the stupid size thingy to work.
Originally posted by melgross
HA! I beat you by two minutes. It would have been more, but I couldn't get the stupid size thingy to work.
Had it been more, you would have been snarky, but wrong.
Originally posted by sunilraman
ROFLMAO
the CPUs will be made by "chinamen"
Heh, the CPUs will ply our daughters with opium and turn them into streetwalkers!
Originally posted by MasonMcD
Had it been more, you would have been snarky, but wrong.
What are talking about? Go away and don't spoil our fun.
Originally posted by melgross
What are talking about? Go away and don't spoil our fun.
Oh, c'mon. It was a joke. Get it? If you had been earlier, it wouldn't have been 30 minutes to keynote? You were spot on at 12:30.
By the way, I'm hoping you were joking too.
IBM Enterprise Division v. Apple
Less than 15 minutes to go. Fasten your seat belts, please.
EDIT: Yup. Turned out I was wrong. I'll have my crow with a bit of horseradish sauce, thanks.
Originally posted by MasonMcD
By the way, I'm hoping you were joking ...
I hope the rumour mongers are too