Duo 2 all over T.V.
I was watching TV last night, and I must of seen 4 or 5 duo 2 commercials, I think they were all Dell. What the hell takes Apple so long? Why does Dell have laptops out now with the new chips and we're still stuck with the old ones? I think this means that we could see the Merom chips in the new MBP before Sept. 12th....I hope...Does anyone else think this, now being that other companies are selling laptops with the new chip?
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I was watching TV last night, and I must of seen 4 or 5 duo 2 commercials, I think they were all Dell. What the hell takes Apple so long? Why does Dell have laptops out now with the new chips and we're still stuck with the old ones? I think this means that we could see the Merom chips in the new MBP before Sept. 12th....I hope...Does anyone else think this, now being that other companies are selling laptops with the new chip?
Simple answer: Dell assembles computers. Apple designs computers. Squeezing those powerful chips into remarkably tight locations, designing and testing the cooling systems, airflow paths, etc. takes time.
Well i mean someone had to design the laptop for Dell then...I just don't understand why Apple is always a little behind...It seems like they are always trying to catch up to the PC
Have you seen Dell's laptops? None-too-cool.
Well i mean someone had to design the laptop for Dell then...I just don't understand why Apple is always a little behind...It seems like they are always trying to catch up to the PC
Basically, they don't put design into the laptop. Their design money is spent on developing cheap manufacturing/assembly processes. They assemple their components and slap a plastic cover around it. It's big, and will have multiple large fans and vents. There is therefore lots of margin for error. Apple, on the other hand, pushes the envelope on basically every machine they sell in terms of size, noise, power. Therefore, it takes more time to design and more time to test.
David
Yeah, it makes sense, but if Core2Duo is all over the TV, touting its benefits and it being the 'latest and greatest', people will be asking for it. If Apple don't have it, many less informed consumer will think it's a reason to get a windows machine...
David
Hey, believe me, I hear ya. I don't know how much more waiting I can take.
Don't tell me Apple didn't recieve pre-production unites long time ago to do the design. Like they did with the original duo. This chip is supposed to use LESS power, so I can't understand why it's not out yet either.
It's hard to say how much earlier they could have received something. Intel was really pushing these things out the door, remember?
It's hard to say how much earlier they could have received something. Intel was really pushing these things out the door, remember?
IDK I just think that Apple would be more on the ball these days being that they are working with Intel. It seems a little stupid to release something after everyone else does. If they really want to keep up with the rest of the PC world they need to have updates, faster, and a lot more of them. Dell doesn't even advertise new chips all the time, most of the time you don't even know what's in them, they just put new chips in and keep going. Apple makes a huge deal out of going from 2.13 - 2.33 or whatever the new one is lol....come on! jus put the damn chip in and lets go already...jeez lol
IDK I just think that Apple would be more on the ball these days being that they are working with Intel. It seems a little stupid to release something after everyone else does. If they really want to keep up with the rest of the PC world they need to have updates, faster, and a lot more of them. Dell doesn't even advertise new chips all the time, most of the time you don't even know what's in them, they just put new chips in and keep going. Apple makes a huge deal out of going from 2.13 - 2.33 or whatever the new one is lol....come on! jus put the damn chip in and lets go already...jeez lol
Patience is virtue, young Paduan.
I was watching TV last night, and I must of seen 4 or 5 duo 2 commercials, I think they were all Dell. What the hell takes Apple so long? Why does Dell have laptops out now with the new chips and we're still stuck with the old ones? I think this means that we could see the Merom chips in the new MBP before Sept. 12th....I hope...Does anyone else think this, now being that other companies are selling laptops with the new chip?
I checked the Dell website and I didn't find any Core 2 Duo laptops. They have plenty of Core Duo laptops but those are the same chips used by Apple. I read a rumor that Apple will be getting the initial shipments of Merom (Core 2 Duo for laptops) from Intel and Dell is on a waiting list. Apple is Intel's favorite OEM vendor right now because it uses only Intel chips. According to Intel, Merom will become available at the end of this month. Apple doesn't have Core 2 Duo desktops right now but the Mac Pro uses the Woodcrest CPU which is a faster version of the same core. Dell's high-end XPS 700 desktop can be configured with Core 2 Duo but it's been delayed, and it's almost as expensive as a similarly configured Mac Pro even though it has two cores against the Mac Pro's four. The other two XPS machines are still stuck in the Pentium D world.
Edit: I priced a Dell XPS-700 and it's about US$200 less that the Mac Pro so I corrected my post to reflect that.
Don't tell me Apple didn't recieve pre-production unites long time ago to do the design. Like they did with the original duo. This chip is supposed to use LESS power, so I can't understand why it's not out yet either.
As it turns out, it doesn't use less power. Apple also needs to design in a mobo with a 64bit data bus to the proc.
One thing to consider is that Dell has a zillion different laptop lines, and Apple has two. Dell can put the new chip in one or two of their models, but for Apple, the MB Pro was released 4 months ago
That would be 7,5 months ago, not 4. Plenty of time to update.
Apple also needs to design in a mobo with a 64bit data bus to the proc.
That's not the case - it's a simpe drop in replacement for the current chips, on the same chipset. If it's not soldered down, that is....
David
¡Dell Laptops! I want one now
No you don't.
I was watching TV last night, and I must of seen 4 or 5 duo 2 commercials, I think they were all Dell. What the hell takes Apple so long? Why does Dell have laptops out now with the new chips and we're still stuck with the old ones? I think this means that we could see the Merom chips in the new MBP before Sept. 12th....I hope...Does anyone else think this, now being that other companies are selling laptops with the new chip?
Ahem. http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...=65570&page=15 post 593.
I checked the Dell website and I didn't find any Core 2 Duo laptops. They have plenty of Core Duo laptops but those are the same chips used by Apple. I read a rumor that Apple will be getting the initial shipments of Merom (Core 2 Duo for laptops) from Intel and Dell is on a waiting list. Apple is Intel's favorite OEM vendor right now because it uses only Intel chips. According to Intel, Merom will become available at the end of this month. Apple doesn't have Core 2 Duo desktops right now but the Mac Pro uses the Woodcrest CPU which is a faster version of the same core. Dell's high-end XPS 700 desktop can be configured with Core 2 Duo but it's been delayed, and it's almost as expensive as a similarly configured Mac Pro even though it has two cores against the Mac Pro's four. The other two XPS machines are still stuck in the Pentium D world.
Edit: I priced a Dell XPS-700 and it's about US$200 less that the Mac Pro so I corrected my post to reflect that.
I never checked the website...Prob should of done that, but the commercials did say Core 2 Duo now in Dell laptops, could be they are just advertising right before they come out. In any event, Apple should be doing the same thing, because now people that see these commercials are going to go straight to Dell because they are advertising first. Especially with this back to school stuff that's going on, Apple definitly should of tried something here, but you don't even see commercials for Apple/B2S sales at all. The only way you'll know you get a discount on anything from Apple is through there website. A little off topic, but Apple really needs to jump on opportunities like this to try to get ahead. They should really be advertising the sh!t out of the fact you can dual boot OS x and Windows too, but they're quiet about everything.