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New York's updated Excelsior vaccine passport drops Apple Wallet support
urahara said:
It seems you are a person type who gets shocked easily by trivial things. Or are you just belonging to anti-vax camp. And maybe you haven’t realized it yet. That you are in denial of the human progress in medicine.patchythepirate said:How are people just blindly accepting these vaccine passports? How is it that so few even question something that is so obviously absurd? The fact that they don't accommodate for natural immunity, which is *superior* to the vaccine 'immunity,' should be a clear indication that we're being manipulated. Not to mention the fact that they make no sense, since people 'vaccinated' with these gene modifying agents can still catch and spread covid. It's shocking how many people are accepting these 'passports' as somehow justifiable.
Firstly, As some one have already pointed out - the vaccination does not modify your genes, contrary to what you are thinking. It’s a fact. And you got your facts WRONG.
Secondly, the society needs to function, what other measures than ‘passports’ do you suggest for mitigating the risk of spreading COVID-19, when the society tries to get to new normal? Or you just criticize the solution without offering any alternatives? Sounds like a grumpy asshole.
Thirdly, the provided to you link https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html Is an interview with Virologist Sabra Klein, PhD ‘98, MS, MA, who says an immense amount of data collected in a short time have made clear the safety and effectiveness of vaccines and the limited immunity that comes from being infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
It is funny how easily you dismiss the information coming from a virologist.
Fourthly, you have provide in a later comment 3 links, basically claiming that it is the prove (for you) that natural immunity is better than vaccine. But your claim is wrong. Let’s look into the links you have provided.
In the 1st link: there is no such information about what is better
In the 2nd link: there is no control group / initial testing. It doesn’t consider that all vaccinated people are documented, but only a part of the infected people are making the test and are diagnosed being sick with COVID-19. Thus the number of people who were newly infected and were already sick with COVID-19 some time in the past isn’t known. This means that the statistics in the article and the conclusion that vacinated people 6 times are more likely to get sick than people with the natural immunity is NOT CORECT AND MISLEADING.
In the 3d link: there is finally a control group initial testing done. And the numbers tell us that 4,85% percent of people get reinfected (=62/1278), and only 3,85% vacinated people got infected (=5449/141480). So even in the link you have provided, you proved your own statement is WRONG. You got your facts wrong AGAIN.
You are not simply getting the facts wrong. You are spreading LIES or your own ASSUMPTIONS.
PLEASE STOP IT!!!That was a lot of effort to be mostly wrong. And for you to embarrass yourself by calling me a "grumpy asshole" lol (points for humor!). A gene is a a segment of DNA or RNA that carries information. Do you know what the 'RNA' in mRNA is referring to? I'll give you one guess. Did I say it modifies your DNA? You don't even have to guess on this one, I'll tell you: no. What it does do is use genetic code to trigger protein production by ribosomes, rather than using inactivated virus particles, like the vast majority of vaccines out there.It's funny how you maintain the idea of vaccine passports, despite the fact that they don't account for natural immunity, and that vaccines don't prevent infection or transmission, which would be the whole point of limiting travel. But maybe that's a bit too complex for you to sort out, or you're just too triggered by all this to think clearly.You ask about solutions? Well, the average age of death is around 80 years old, so lets make sure all the elderly are vaccinated (already done! >%90 are in the US). Let's also make sure that anyone who is at risk, with commodities, has the opportunity to get a vaccine (done! they're practically darting people along the sidewalks). Lets also develop a traditional, inactivated vaccine, rather than the gene therapy vaccines that focus only on spike proteins, and thus don't confer a full immune response. The use of 'leaky' and incomplete gene therapy vaccines promotes the creation of variants by making it easier for the virus to evade defenses (if you're vaccinated, you're helping to create variants faster, it's basic science).In short, you should probably know what you're talking about before spouting off on the internet and accusing people of lying.
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New York's updated Excelsior vaccine passport drops Apple Wallet support
charlesatlas said:
https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.htmlpatchythepirate said:How are people just blindly accepting these vaccine passports? How is it that so few even question something that is so obviously absurd? The fact that they don't accommodate for natural immunity, which is *superior* to the vaccine 'immunity,' should be a clear indication that we're being manipulated. Not to mention the fact that they make no sense, since people 'vaccinated' with these gene modifying agents can still catch and spread covid. It's shocking how many people are accepting these 'passports' as somehow justifiable.Wow, thank you for sharing that, but that is beyond absurd. I can't believe that's published on Johns Hopkins site. Extremely poorly written, lacks context, and even contradicts itself. You don't even need any outside information or knowledge to see how ridiculous this is, and conveniently, they don't reference any actual studies, just framing it as this one person's opinion.For example, they claim that natural immunity is worse, but don't say how they came to this conclusion (antibodies? B or T cell activation?). They say they don't know how it is better, it just is, then diminish their own point by noting that the vaccines only focus on one set of antigens, the spike proteins, unlike natural immunity that can address all of the antigens on the virus. They also don't mention that focusing on spike proteins also reduces the immune response to B and T cell activation, whereas natural immunity also involves natural killer cells, macrophages, etc. They also don't mention the context of a *much* higher rate of reinfection with those who have been vaccinated vs those who have natural immunity, which shows that this limited gene therapy vaccine immunity is clearly not superior to natural immunity (which is obvious and expected).It's disturbing that an article like the one you linked is being disseminated as 'reliable' information. People need to wake up and realize that science has been politicized.
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Apple Music now streaming new Kanye West 'Donda' event
It's hilarious how many people are triggered by Kanye.In case anyone is wondering about bipolar disorder, it is *extremely* difficult to convince someone with severe bipolar disorder to take needed medications; it is beyond the realm of what can be intuitively understood, a psychotic level of poor insight in many cases. And our system does not allow forced medications unless someone is an immediate threat to themselves or others (or, sometimes, if a conservatorship has been established); outside of these parameters, a bipolar person is free to completely destroy their lives, it's pretty sad. It's kind of interesting right now; we have Britney, who is under conservatorship that doesn't seem to be necessary, and Kanye, who may benefit from a conservatorship but doesn't have one. -
New York's updated Excelsior vaccine passport drops Apple Wallet support
How are people just blindly accepting these vaccine passports? How is it that so few even question something that is so obviously absurd? The fact that they don't accommodate for natural immunity, which is *superior* to the vaccine 'immunity,' should be a clear indication that we're being manipulated. Not to mention the fact that they make no sense, since people 'vaccinated' with these gene modifying agents can still catch and spread covid. It's shocking how many people are accepting these 'passports' as somehow justifiable.
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Apple's record $81.4 billion Q3 obliterates Street expectations
tmay said:
There's a shit ton of data about the short and long term effects of COVID-19, and now today, data showing erectile disfunction and reduced sperm production.M68000 said:
Hey hotshot, you do know that these “vaccines” are experimental and rushed out to the public with no data on long term side effects. Do you think 50% of the population are morons because they are concerned about such things? They dare to question about rushing to use such things instead of not even thinking about it? That makes them morons?? 2 of these so called vaccines are not even real vaccines. There are a number of doctors who have gone public about their concerns and what they have seen going on. I guess they are morons too? Sadly, there is however data on bad reactions and lingering problems after getting these vaccines.lkrupp said:
As always, Wall Street doesn’t care about what you did today, it’s about what it thinks you will do in the future. And the Covid-19 delta variant has thrown a monkey wrench into the financial crystal ball, all because 50% of the population are dumb, ignorant morons. There’s also a study out that reveals 1-in-5 believe the vaccines contain microchips. That means 20% of the population are certified idiots.fallenjt said:And AAPL after hour trading drops over 1%. What kind of WS bullshit is that?
https://theconversation.com/covid-19-could-cause-male-infertility-and-sexual-dysfunction-but-vaccines-do-not-164139
I went with the "experimental vaccine Moderna" as soon as it was available, thanks very much, and thanks to the "dumb, ignorant morons", for lack of a more appropriate moniker, there is going to be a primordial soup of virus variants returning over and over again to the U.S., and the rest of the world.
I don't particularly care if you stake your life on remaining vax free, but us vaccinated, and the medical community, are getting pretty fucking tired of having to watch the rest of you fuckers shit the bed, and expecting us to clean up after you.
I'm now solidly behind vaccine passports, and shipping all of our excess vaccines to places around the world that will make good use of it before it expires.
Have a nice day!You don't seem very knowledgeable about the covid vaccines. And you seem a bit angry. I wonder if that's a side effect of the vaccines we should be looking into..Anyway, I'm a physician, part of this medical community you're speaking of. Are you a part of it? (Since you seem to be speaking for it.) Many of us have a lot of concerns about the vaccines. I related a few of them in previous posts if you care to read them. But, thankfully you can rest a bit more easy. As I mentioned, over %90 of the elderly have been vaccinated, which are overwhelmingly the age group most at risk, and the vaccine (which shows efficacy against variants) is readily available for those that want it. Success!
