danox

apple4thewin said:

fastasleep said:

Marvin said:

Johar said:

Yet another clueless flyweight gaming effort from Apple, in a world of gaming heavyweight actors. It's beyond pathetic that Apple completely fails to understand what real gamers need and want. And no, that doesn't include grandmothers, who might happily buy "Hot Dog Stand Simulator 2018" as a birthday gift for little Andrew, 7 years old.

Jeez, if Apple wants to be anything of consequence in gaming, they need to do something bold, like buying Steam. That's what an entry ticket looks like. After that, they'd need to dedicate real resources to it long term. Something they've NEVER done with any of their feeble attempts so far.

Every move like this improves the platform for gaming. Their current achievements and game profile is quite hidden in the App Store:

https://www.idownloadblog.com/2020/08/13/apple-arcade-achievements-game-center-iphone-ipad/

This will give them something more like Steam. They wouldn't have to buy Valve but they could partner with them so that achievements and some purchases sync across games. If someone is playing Resident Evil 2 on iPhone and completes an achievement, it should register in their Steam profile and vice versa, same with save games.

This is really basic syncing, request a sync for a Steam id, verify it in Steam, store a sync token, then sync JSON data for game ids that includes purchases, save games and achievements.

The reason mobile gaming ended up with the casino-like pay-to-win model is that people weren't willing to pay money for lightweight games and that set the expectations for payments on mobile.

It would be good if Apple could find a way to get mobile gaming to be more like the Nintendo Switch or Steam Deck where people are willing to spend $60+ on a single good quality game but it's going to be very difficult to do when the expectations have been set for so long and for so many people. I think they would have more success trying to get people to spend $4.99-9.99 outright for titles similar to how Super Mario Run did it. It's free to download to get the first level and then unlock the rest of the game. This wasn't very successful for Mario but if they kept promoting this model, it would gain traction eventually by managing player expectations.

While I agree Steam integration of some sort would be great, it's not like Apple to integrate with a competitor. The better option to buy a game available on both is on Steam, for multiple reasons. Steam is the far better option.

As far as non-Steam stuff, I'm not sure what this is other than rearranging the App Store tab for games to its own thing. And after Game Center and Arcade and everything else they've failed at in gaming, I'm failing to see how this moves the needle — YET. Maybe there's more to the story.

The SMART thing would be to bring back Steam VR and integrate with Apple Vision Pro, even bring back HTC and other headset compatibility. Bring VR gaming to the Mac. We had it, kinda, for a second, in like 2017. That was my biggest disappointment with AVP.

Better yet, Apple should just outright buy Valve, make a premium version of the porting toolkit that works natively on the Steam launcher, and this will become a better integration than when Apple bought out Beats. That way, Apple has a multiplatform presence, and we get Half-Life 3.

Johar said:

Yet another clueless flyweight gaming effort from Apple, in a world of gaming heavyweight actors. It's beyond pathetic that Apple completely fails to understand what real gamers need and want. And no, that doesn't include grandmothers, who might happily buy "Hot Dog Stand Simulator 2018" as a birthday gift for little Andrew, 7 years old.

Jeez, if Apple wants to be anything of consequence in gaming, they need to do something bold, like buying Steam. That's what an entry ticket looks like. After that, they'd need to dedicate real resources to it long term. Something they've NEVER done with any of their feeble attempts so far.

Xed said:

dewme said:

The president telling companies to eat the tariffs is like a mob boss telling his henchmen to hide the bodies. 

Nothing to see here!

And it's interesting because, just like the wall Mexico was going to pay for, he kept claiming that the importing country pays the tariffs. Did nearly half the people voting not take a civics class in middle school, or is that they never went to middle school, or didn't care so long as their dreams of hurting people different from them came true?

davidw said:

Javert24601 said:

9secondkox2 said:

Stupidest thing I e ever heard. There’s no “improvement” button just sitting on a desk somewhere being criminally neglected. 

No one is forced legally to make the best product out there. If so, Google and Microsoft wouldn’t exist. 

Frivolous lawsuit. 

Sometimes something just doesn’t work out - especially when you’re trying to do things ethically and not spying on your users all the time. 

Maybe Apple should not have advertised a feature that they couldn't/were not able to deliver.  Apple was desperate to "appear" relevant on AI and needed to maintain sales because they had nothing to offer.  So, they *lied* about "upcoming" features.  I upgraded thinking that an improved Siri was around the corner.  Apple chose violence.  In the end, there is nothing special about iPhone 16 that wasn't in iPhone 15.  It was all BS!   I could have saved my money and bought iPhone 17 with more built in memory and (probably) the features that were promised for iPhone 16.  Apple should pay multiple billions of dollars in fines/civil penalties for lying to its consumers.  Tim Cook should be fired for what Apple did and because he didn't hold anyone accountable for what happened.  All he has done is some reshuffling of leadership responsibilities.  Oh, please!  That is such a weak ass "leadership" move.

Siri with Apple Intelligence was not advertised as a feature on an iPhone 16. Siri with Apple Intelligence is software not hardware. Siri with Apple Intelligence is a feature of iOS 18. And iOS 18 was first released with the iPhone 16. The iPhone 16 was not priced anymore for having Siri with Apple Intelligence. The license to use iOS is free, with the purchase or ownership of Apple devices.  In fact, an iPhone 15 Pro (with the A17 CPU) also got Siri with Apple Intelligence, for free, with an update to iOS 18.1. 

For sure, Siri with Apple Intelligence has so far not lived up to what was promised (advertised) but if every software developer had to pay fines of multiple billions of dollars for not delivering features that was promised with their software, Microsoft would have been out of business a long time ago.

Besides, this lawsuit is not about you. A consumer that didn't think of waiting until the feature they wanted was available and functioning on an iPhone 16, before upgrading to one.  Why did you upgrade to an iPhone 16 before the feature you wanted was available on an iPhone 16? You had the chance to get a full refund within the return window, when you booted up the iPhone 16 you purchased and found out Siri wasn't functioning like what you expected.

This lawsuit is about the AAPL investors and share holders. The claim is that many AAPL investors bought (or didn't sell as planned) shares of AAPL when Cook announced (advertised)  Siri with Apple Intelligence. Even though Cook (nor Apple, Inc.) never made any claim of AAPL going up because Siri with Apple Intelligence will drive up sales of iPhone 16, many analyst might had used it as one of many reasons to upgrade AAPL. So this law firm wants to cash in on AAPL share price dropping by claiming the drop is the result of Apple not delivering Siri with Apple Intelligence as promised and what was promised might be delayed until next year. But nearly every AAPL share holders knows why their shares of AAPL has dropped in the past several months and it's not because of Siri with Apple Intelligence not yet living up to what was promised. 

Any investor buying shares of AAPL with the hopes of AAPL going up based on the announcement of Siri with Apple Intelligence with iOS 18, would be like you buying an iPhone 16 even though the feature you wanted was not yet available and functioning on an iPhone 16. Not a wise purchase. But if the investors don't sell their shares, AAPL will eventually go back up to be worth more that what they paid for them and if you hang on to your iPhone 16, eventually Siri will function as you wanted with a free iOS update.