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  • Apple's iOS 18 AI will be on-device preserving privacy, and not server-side

    ctt_zh said:
    danox said:
    gatorguy said:
    avon b7 said:
    Sounds like a more marketing focused play to push the privacy and latency angles. Assuming the rumour is true. 

    That's certainly one way to do it but isn't without its own issues. Limited scope and how many older iPhones can make decent use of it for example. 

    We'll have to wait and see how they announce it because other options from multiple vendors will remain open to iOS users anyway (perhaps some will be monetised through usage or subscription options).

    There will also need to be a range of models to play off. 

    NLU, NLG are obviously two key areas. Image related AI will probably require an improvement too.

    Hallucination is a property of AI models and won't go away in that sense. Hallucination is even desired in many scenarios. 

    The problem is that there are obviously scenarios where you would prefer not to have it. I believe that can be done quite well but normally requires the model to sit within another model etc, upping resource usage. 
    It's much the same way the most recent Pixel phones do it. Most of the (Generative) AI functions happen on device, a privacy-friendly approach. Computationally intensive features and web search are processed "in the cloud" for obvious reasons.  I think Apple will be following the same path, but be better at marketing the privacy of the on-device portions of the system than Google is. 

    Sure, Apple will be different because they have the superior mobile/desktop/laptop hardware/OS to make it different the 3.5-4 hours Video Boost and other AI miscues exist because Google hardware is weak and Samsung has no real control over what Google feeds them OS wise. The Tensor is easily more than five years behind Apples hardware they have no choice but to use a phone home solution.

    https://www.androidpolice.com/video-boost-pixel-8-pro-review/ Phone home to the cloud servers and wait 3.5-4 hours for a AI/video boomerang.
    Key phrase from the article... "It looks like the initial batch of features will function without the need for an internet connection.". If Apple can get its AI Servers remotely near the capabilities of Google's Cloud / Azure you could well be seeing more intensive / complex features being processed in the cloud by Apple (folks will indeed hope this is the case if the initial on-device features are a bit dull, compared to what the competition has offered for a while now). 

    Regarding the Tensor chip, it's all about the software and models in combination with the chip. You really need to think about this differently, you're looking at AI in terms of solely the SoC like it's 2015... 
    The Tensor is a extremely weak and years behind Apple SOC any solution by Google and Meta will be on the cloud why? they have no choice and vacuuming data up from users to sell to their real customers is how they make money.
    watto_cobra
  • Fear of Nintendo's wrath is keeping emulators off of the App Store

    Nintendo and Sony will sue Apple and the little pirates and they will also petition the Japanese government for help they are not going to sit by and do nothing and the same applies to Microsoft some time down the road in the USA.
    watto_cobra
  • Apple Notes in iOS 18 looks to up the ante with Microsoft OneNote

    If Apple Notes is to truly compete with OneNote, then it needs to be cross-platform. I use a Windows PC at work, and as such, use OneNote for work-related notes. In a way, it's useful that it is separate from my personal notes, but it would be useful if I had direct access to my Apple Notes within Windows. Or at least update the cloud web browser version to bring feature parity with the native mac/ios versions as it's currently missing crucial features.

    No chasing Microsoft or Google to do something is a waste of time they are your competitors and under no circumstance should Apple waste resources to do so see the iMessage RCS debacle basic cut and paste should be it. Pages/Notability/Notes/Goodnotes/Outliner all work well back and forth Microsoft/Google/Adobe need nothing special from Apple.
    mac_dog
  • Apple's iOS 18 AI will be on-device preserving privacy, and not server-side

    gatorguy said:
    avon b7 said:
    Sounds like a more marketing focused play to push the privacy and latency angles. Assuming the rumour is true. 

    That's certainly one way to do it but isn't without its own issues. Limited scope and how many older iPhones can make decent use of it for example. 

    We'll have to wait and see how they announce it because other options from multiple vendors will remain open to iOS users anyway (perhaps some will be monetised through usage or subscription options).

    There will also need to be a range of models to play off. 

    NLU, NLG are obviously two key areas. Image related AI will probably require an improvement too.

    Hallucination is a property of AI models and won't go away in that sense. Hallucination is even desired in many scenarios. 

    The problem is that there are obviously scenarios where you would prefer not to have it. I believe that can be done quite well but normally requires the model to sit within another model etc, upping resource usage. 
    It's much the same way the most recent Pixel phones do it. Most of the (Generative) AI functions happen on device, a privacy-friendly approach. Computationally intensive features and web search are processed "in the cloud" for obvious reasons.  I think Apple will be following the same path, but be better at marketing the privacy of the on-device portions of the system than Google is. 

    Sure, Apple will be different because they have the superior mobile/desktop/laptop hardware/OS to make it different the 3.5-4 hours Video Boost and other AI miscues exist because Google hardware is weak and Samsung has no real control over what Google feeds them OS wise. The Tensor is easily more than five years behind Apples hardware they have no choice but to use a phone home solution.

    https://www.androidpolice.com/video-boost-pixel-8-pro-review/ Phone home to the cloud servers and wait 3.5-4 hours for a AI/video boomerang.
    williamlondonkillroyjas99Alex1Nwatto_cobra
  • Australian court is the latest to attack Apple on behalf of rich corporations

    It’s no worse than what IBM went through with their 1956 Consent Decree with the DOJ that forced them for 40 years to separate hardware sales from software and services sales or what AT&T was forced to do such as making all their patents (including for the original transistor) royalty free to all other American companies and then carved apart in 1984. So if you are going to cry a river for Apple then you should at least show one or two tears for IBM and AT&T.

    IBM is now the walking tech dead now soon they will join Sun, Digital, and Motorola........And there are no tears for IBM is done in the same sense as Xerox is done, both are just marking time until the doors close like Motorola.

    IBM had a chance in fact many chances, to turn it around, when they had the infrastructure and the means, they missed the opportunity to build, smaller faster more powerful CPU’s for use in desktop/ mobile computers. They even had Steve Jobs the CEO of Apple, asking them, begging them to do something at the time they refused

    A similar story happen at Intel, and Intel will pay a huge price for not building the SOC’s‘s for the iPhone, and the iPad, not to mention, basically, allowing Apple develop and to eventually replace them at the desktop level, blunders at that scale eventually lead to the end like Motorola.

    williamlondonbaconstangentropys