danox

sdw2001 said:

It’s fun to hate on Meta, but can we talk about how disappointing and irrelevant Apple Intelligence is right now?  Most people couldn’t tell you what it is.  The rollout was obviously a mess and borderline deceptive. There are some good features, and some have mentioned above, including photo enhancement, etc.  But to most people, it’s not even clear that’s part of Apple Intelligence. People are expecting an app or language model. Even in my daily use, Apple Intelligence is pretty much just Siri with a better backend and a different animation on the screen.  

No, that being said I absolutely hate Meta AI and how it’s integrated into Facebook. I end up searching for something and all of a sudden I get an automated message telling me about it. No thanks. The best AI model for me right now is Grok 3.   I’ve had it right SCO landing pages for like 50 cities for a website, including internal links, formatting, etc. You can even say describe the service area and it will tell you the Metro center and name the counties around it in the article. Asking it to analyze or strategize is pretty amazing.  

In any case, it seems to me that Apple is way, way behind with artificial intelligence.  It’s just not a major draw to their products.

CarmB said:

danox said:

CarmB said:

That's a problem mainly because the speed of existing processors is more than sufficient to meet the needs of the vast majority of users. Really fast upgraded to faster still, in real-world use, adds up to no discernible upgrade. Asking consumers who already are facing substantial price increases to pay more for essentially nothing doesn't appear to be a good grasp of what will best serve consumers. In the end, the key to success does lie in making your customers happy. Charging more with nothing to show for it is not how you do that. As the price of acquiring the latest and greatest goes up, it motivates consumers to think hard about upgrading from a working iPhone. So if Apple goes to a higher price point with its iPhone line, it will not end well for Apple. The only way this would work would be if there was compelling functionality added to the iPhone experience as a result of a processor upgrade. Current processors are so capable that it seems unlikely this will happen. 

You’re off your rocker take a look at what happened to Intel, AMD, US Steel, Kodak, Xerox, Motorola of Schaumburg, Illinois, when it comes to software and hardware, the job is never done for Apple not if you wanna keep ahead of the competition……

There have been many advancements in processing power without a dramatic increase in price. Price point matters. If you can't get the price point right, it doesn't matter how capable your product is. This isn't about putting more powerful processors in future generations of iPhones. Really, it's a given that this will happen considering it has been happening for a very long time. You can't simply develop a product, add up all the resulting cost and price it accordingly. It is also part of the design process that said product must come in a pre-determined price point otherwise all bets are off. 

CarmB said:

That's a problem mainly because the speed of existing processors is more than sufficient to meet the needs of the vast majority of users. Really fast upgraded to faster still, in real-world use, adds up to no discernible upgrade. Asking consumers who already are facing substantial price increases to pay more for essentially nothing doesn't appear to be a good grasp of what will best serve consumers. In the end, the key to success does lie in making your customers happy. Charging more with nothing to show for it is not how you do that. As the price of acquiring the latest and greatest goes up, it motivates consumers to think hard about upgrading from a working iPhone. So if Apple goes to a higher price point with its iPhone line, it will not end well for Apple. The only way this would work would be if there was compelling functionality added to the iPhone experience as a result of a processor upgrade. Current processors are so capable that it seems unlikely this will happen. 

charlesn said:

tht said:

If this device is 3% of iPhone sales, it would be an incredible success. 

Nibbling at the edges like that has never been Apple's game. The iPhone Plus has routinely made it into the top ten selling smartphones in the world, and yet Apple is still allegedly cutting it for lack of "sufficient" sales. As for 3% of sales being a gigantic win--how do you figure that? I think you're correct that Fold sales will largely come from cannibalizing Pro Max sales. A mid-tier storage Pro Max sells for $1600. A similar storage Fold might come in at $400 or $500 more. But it's going to be a MUCH more expensive phone to manufacture, not to mention the costs for R&D, tooling and marketing that will go into it. I'm not seeing much added profit at all for Apple in that $400-$500 increase in the selling price over the Pro Max when you consider all of the costs that have to be amortized over a relatively small (for Apple) number of phones that will be sold. 

geekmee said:

Remind me, what problem does this solve again?

It will finally stop the whining on tech sites for Apple to make a folding phone. 

charlesn said:

Zero surprise. Galaxy Fold 6 ranges from $1600 to nearly $2K at Best Buy, depending on storage, So it sounds like Apple will be within a few hundred of those numbers. Why Apple would introduce this extremely niche and expensive bridge to nowhere is beyond me, but I also can't believe that all these predictions of its arrival are wrong. Apple has never felt the "me, too" need to chase Android gimmicks. and it's hard to see the Galaxy Fold as anything more than that when it has generated such little sales traction after six years on the market. Same for the Pixel Fold, although that has been around for only two years. Who knows? Maybe Apple will have come up with some compelling use cases by the time it arrives that will justify its stratospheric price and fragility when you inevitably drop it to a broader audience than either Samsung or Google has reached, but I'm not sure what those would be.