bobolicious

jkichline said:

bobolicious said:

Well if one needs GPU performance - I am running into software for example that simply will not run (bricked) without a beefy GPU...

from the Macworld article:

  59,774   Apple M1 Max 32 core GPU
143,594  nVidia 3080 Ti

240% faster, presumably not 'within margin of error'

Even more pronounced seem the desktop options (AMD) with the relatively inexpensive nVidia 3060 outperforming passmark scores for many higher priced cards as well as having 12GB VRAM  www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-xc-gaming-12gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card/6454329.p?skuId=6454329

I understood Apple is working on a 'boost' option which may help, and will presumably also ramp up the power and fan requirements...?

Except that's not the Alder Gate chip. That's the NVIDIA GPU. What's the GPU performance of the Intel graphics on the Alder Gate chip? Does that account for Metal performance boosts?

I understood the 3080 Ti as mobile and the 3080 as the desktop option. That said Zimmie's explanation seems helpful, and memory shuttling and a 2TB M2 for the SSG might make even more sense given the modest M2 cost...

For what it is worth I value quiet operation at the expense of performance unless needed, and yet if developers start bricking apps for their preferred GPU configuration is that more troubling than debating top spec performance, and the next great Apple Trojan Horse to 'encourage' hardware sales...?

Well if one needs GPU performance - I am running into software for example that simply will not run (bricked) without a beefy GPU...

from the Macworld article:

  59,774   Apple M1 Max 32 core GPU
143,594  nVidia 3080 Ti

240% faster, presumably not 'within margin of error'

Even more pronounced seem the desktop options (AMD) with the relatively inexpensive nVidia 3060 outperforming passmark scores for many higher priced cards as well as having 12GB VRAM  www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-xc-gaming-12gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card/6454329.p?skuId=6454329

I understood Apple is working on a 'boost' option which may help, and will presumably also ramp up the power and fan requirements...?

...I wish Apple would slow everything down especially macOS which seemed to be released on merit (every 2~3 years through 2011) vs a calendar basis which may serve annual shareholder interests...

This lack of continuity has created at this customer end a ton of overhead juggling app compatibility and for example the orphaning of 32 bit apps also came with a flurry of upgrade costs for various apps, many switching from the persistent licensing 'gold rush' to the unsustainable subscription model. Is this the opposite of Windows with long support cycles and recognition of such burdens on business? I understand 32 bit apps are still supported in Windows...?

I just asked a developer today if Windows is now easier than the mac and in suit a better 'customer experience'...?

...I wish Nvidia and AMD crossfire were better supported...  The latter might have helped (or still help) the 2013 mac pro...

mcdave said:

lkrupp said:

rob53 said:

aderutter said:

At this price it might make more sense to buy an iMac and a LunaDisplay. Apple need to release a monitor that is priced less than an iMac. 

Totally agree. Talking to a neighbor who uses a 2010 MacPro with a nice monitor for that time and I gave him a spec comparison to the 2020 Mac mini and it blows his Mac Pro away. I could see myself moving to the next generation Mac mini as long as I could get a quality display that doesn’t, as you say, cost as much as a current 24” iMac. He’s waiting for this model as well. The base iMac is $1299 so why should a stand-alone 24” display cost more? It should include extra ports as well for this price. 

Wait as long as you like. Not going to happen. Current monitors that cost less than an iMac are not all that good. An Apple monitor for $1299? No way.

Wasn’t the 2.5K Thunderbolt Display $999?

It was, and I still enjoy mine...
everymac.com/monitors/apple/thunderbolt/specs/apple-thunderbolt-display-27-inch-specs.html
A 4K USBC upgrade would be enough for me. Is 5K Apple's 'bag of hurt'...?
I wish I felt like Apple was now being governed by enthusiasts vs money men...
Does every movement become a business?
Does every era have its day...?