spheric

Fidonet127 said:

tlinn said:

I will forever be grateful to the Europeans for forcing Apple to adopt USB-C. But the idea that Apple shouldn't be compensated for developing a platform that allows thousands of developers to make a living, or that the "fair" amount of compensation should be decided by developers seems ridiculous to me. Apple is not a charity, nor do they exist to be the world's R&D department. Much of what the Europeans are doing feels like protectionism.

That said, there are plenty of examples where Apple disadvantages its own customers and stifles innovation—like forcing all browsers to use the same engine. This is where government action should focus. 

There is no evidence that EU forced Apple to go USB-C as Apple was already heading there. Yes they put it into law, but the market was already forcing Apple to go USB-C. Due to timing, EU got the credit. 

ssfe11 said:

What a mess she created. She needed to be fired. 

bloggerblog said:

This is total nonsense, why does Apple need to promote competing products to this ludicrous extent. I don't remember any other product or OS that has to bend backwards this far. 

Xed said:

spheric said:

danox said:

phillyfanatic09 said:

VictorMortimer said:

Intentionally omitting features as retaliation?  Yeah, Apple is gonna LOVE the multi-billion fine for this little stunt.

The EU is done playing.  Apple will behave, or they will PAY.

Or, shocker, Apple will leave the EU altogether. Companies are “for profit” entities and publicly traded ones like Apple have an obligation to the their shareholders to act in their interests. Loss of the EU market will hurt but paying out more in fines than you earn in profit makes no sense.

The EU wants smartphones to be like PCs where there is little differentiation between vendors and profit is mainly derived from directed advertising and sale of consumer data. As an American, I am perfectly content to let Europe live in that world but I definitely hope they don’t drag me into it.

A American company named Walmart is no longer in the EU they left…….

Yeah, they had rather crude ideas on employee privacy and rather illegal views on how employees should conduct their personal lives. 

Even after they managed to fix their HR to align with basic human rights, European customers had already told them in no uncertain terms to fuck off, and off they indeed did fuck. 

I'm not sure if it was intended, but Walmart's questionable ethos should not play into danox's example as they are also publicly traded and therefore have an obligation to their shareholders. While Walmart backing out of the EU doesn't move EU citizens to see just how caustic the their whimsically partisan attempts to siphon money from certain companies, Apple pulling out could open some eyes and cause the EU to start playing fair.

danox said:

phillyfanatic09 said:

VictorMortimer said:

Intentionally omitting features as retaliation?  Yeah, Apple is gonna LOVE the multi-billion fine for this little stunt.

The EU is done playing.  Apple will behave, or they will PAY.

Or, shocker, Apple will leave the EU altogether. Companies are “for profit” entities and publicly traded ones like Apple have an obligation to the their shareholders to act in their interests. Loss of the EU market will hurt but paying out more in fines than you earn in profit makes no sense.

The EU wants smartphones to be like PCs where there is little differentiation between vendors and profit is mainly derived from directed advertising and sale of consumer data. As an American, I am perfectly content to let Europe live in that world but I definitely hope they don’t drag me into it.

A American company named Walmart is no longer in the EU they left…….