danvm

rob53 said:

In my history supporting Macs, we never really had that many IT support people anyway. What this could do, however, is get rid of all those Microsoft IT people who never could do anything more than re-image PCs. I am excited that businesses are finally understanding what we knew decades ago, that everything Apple makes is better and takes less IT support to operate properly.

maestro64 said:

I can hear the screams of the IT professions as more unnecessary jobs are eliminate. IBM has show Mac need less IT resources once deployed and now they are eliminating the need to have someone spend time setting up a new systems. So much for automation eliminating factories worker it is now eliminated the educated IT worker. I wonder what all the people in India will be doing in the future no need to tech support call centers.

williamlondon said:

danvm said:

"My post didn't had the purpose to defend to PC..."

Are you kidding?! Having installed yourself as the resident Microsoft/PC apologist, *that's all you ever do*. It's really fucking annoying, btw, and you've been told this numerous times by numerous people, we're not stupid and neither are you, so you can stop the innocent act.

tmay said:

danvm said:

dewme said:

Anti-Idiot said:

MacPro said:

gmgravytrain said:

christopher126 said:

Copying and a 'good enough' approach to business will only get you so far!

It shows the extraordinary effort Apple puts into every facet of the iPhone. From glass, software, chips, battery, cameras, antennas, etc., etc. 

And, the syncing of everything across all my devices. 

I will never have a Google, MS, Samsung, Amazon, or Facebook device in my home or service on my devices!

I can't wait until Apple makes all my devices look "Anonymous" on the internet! 

It's coming!

You're in such a tiny minority, like one in a million.  The whole internet is Google's playground and Android OS overwhelmingly dominates.  Almost no one on the planet is concerned with personal privacy because almost everyone wants free services.  Paying for those free services with personal data is completely acceptable to billions of internet users.  Everyone believes Apple is missing out by not having eavesdropping/listening devices in every room.  I believe most consumers don't mind being spied upon.  It makes them feel important that someone is listening to their every word.

'Android OS overwhelmingly dominates.'  .... Oh, I fell off my chair laughing.  Dominates in landfills, kids' basements and crackerjack toys maybe.

Not to be too pointed, but you can use a search engine right? You do realize that Apple in 2018 only has between 12-15% of the market share in cell phones, right? Apple is good to keep around, but they are not an overall threat to the entire market, just like in computers. It is the illusion of competition to keep people buying things... There is a reason that Microsoft bailed Apple out when it almost went bankrupt by buying 30% of the stock. Microsoft and ABC need Apple around and they need their customers to think that they are an actual competitor. It's a marketing ploy, nothing more.

Laughable.

The same search engine would tell you that Apple is slurping up nearly 90% of smartphone profits. Would you rather have the world's large pile of paperclips or the world's largest pile of cash? Cash matters, profits matter. If Microsoft is only allowing Apple to survive to preserve an illusion of competition, as you claim, how do you explain Apple absolutely crushing any hope of Microsoft ever succeeding in the smartphone market?

I do agree that Apple and Microsoft are no longer direct competitors, and haven't been since the iPhone transformed the entire computing industry worldwide. Personal computers from the PC-XT, to the Compaq 386, through generations of Pentiums, to the latest fully built out Core i9 gaming rigs moved workers away from typewriters, moved some gamers away from dedicated consoles, freed scientists and business analysts from waiting in queues for mainframe access, and allowed little Jimmy to send an electronic letter to grandma after he learned how to work around the claptrap inherent in Microsoft's software. All the while Microsoft went on to become enormously successful by slapping a $100 tax on every PC shipped with their operating system installed on it. PCs were all about humans adapting to follow the stringent requirements imposed by the PC and its operating system. It's sit-down, shut-up, and do what you're told if you want to be productive with the PC. The PC and its OS dictates the terms and conditions and users had no choice but to comply, using Microsoft's rules in the vast majority of cases. 

The PC is one of the most adaptable devices ever created.  It is personal since I can use it in whatever I need, from example, gaming, productivity, business, and many others tasks.  Yes, you have to learn and adapt to an OS, but the same can be said for iOS or any other modern OS. 

Then the iPhone happened.

The iPhone is the most personal computing device ever created and along with its iPad and Apple Watch siblings has forever changed how the collective mass of humanity interacts with computers, information, recorded knowledge, photography, music, personal communication, social media, news, weather, travel information, entertainment, personal health regimens, and just about every other aspect of modern life of billions of people worldwide. The iPhone flipped the script. The computer adapts to you. You want it in your pocket? There it is. You want it always connected to the world? There it is. You want to talk to it? It talks back. You want it to serve you information, news, music, entertainment, your favorite novels? No problem. Anywhere. Anytime. On your terms, not the terms dictated by a desk anchor and the wizard programming the anchor.  Calling PCs "personal" was like calling early automobile's horseless carriages. We thought PCs were personal, but we were so naive, shortsighted, and ignorant. The iPhone made that reality abundantly clear.   

The examples you have only show that the iPhone (and mobile devices before the iPhone) did was to put in the palm of your hand what PC's have done for years.  Both mobile devices as the iPhone and PC's, both are personal, one designed for the palm of your hand and the other designed for more complex tasks. 

So yeah, Apple vs Microsoft is a moot point. One company had the Old Way almost all to itself, had us all by the short hairs, dictated its own terms and conditions with little regard to what we really wanted, and imposed a universal tax on its partners and customers. And then they lost, big time, and got slogged down in a tarpit of their own creation. Apple on the other hand, stripped of the burden of playing a game of someone else's making, threw out the Old Way and reinvented the core of the computing universe around truly personal computing, putting a supercomputer in your pocket that reacted to your every need.  The iPhone is today as close to being a man-made appendage to the human form as any device ever created by man. The Old Way, the way dominated by PCs, is not even on the same plane of existence as the iPhone. At some point the iPhone too will appear crude in form, but the functional precedent that it established for personal computing will only be eclipsed when the sensory based man-machine interaction models can be replaced by a more direct integration with the intellectual and cognitive organ perched between our ears.

First, Apple didn't threw the "old way", since they still sell Mac's, a device that it's considered a PC.  Second, what Apple did didn't replace the "old way".  It just gave users another device where they can access some of the information and do some tasks they did in their PCs.  So I cannot said that and iPhone is better than the "old way" or vice versa.  Both have advantages and disadvantages. 

For all of your defense of the PC, and I'm fine with that, it's certainly true that the ubiquity of smartphones is unequaled. The smartphone is also a much more egalitarian device, in use by virtually all in society, something that the PC never achieved.

As for adaptability, smartphones have lead to an early grave for a great number of consumer devices that easily survived PC's. I don't think most people would ever have needed or worried about getting 10 hours of daily use out of their PC's, but that's become a typical use pattern for smartphones,

dewme said:

Anti-Idiot said:

MacPro said:

gmgravytrain said:

christopher126 said:

Copying and a 'good enough' approach to business will only get you so far!

It shows the extraordinary effort Apple puts into every facet of the iPhone. From glass, software, chips, battery, cameras, antennas, etc., etc. 

And, the syncing of everything across all my devices. 

I will never have a Google, MS, Samsung, Amazon, or Facebook device in my home or service on my devices!

I can't wait until Apple makes all my devices look "Anonymous" on the internet! 

It's coming!

You're in such a tiny minority, like one in a million.  The whole internet is Google's playground and Android OS overwhelmingly dominates.  Almost no one on the planet is concerned with personal privacy because almost everyone wants free services.  Paying for those free services with personal data is completely acceptable to billions of internet users.  Everyone believes Apple is missing out by not having eavesdropping/listening devices in every room.  I believe most consumers don't mind being spied upon.  It makes them feel important that someone is listening to their every word.

'Android OS overwhelmingly dominates.'  .... Oh, I fell off my chair laughing.  Dominates in landfills, kids' basements and crackerjack toys maybe.

Not to be too pointed, but you can use a search engine right? You do realize that Apple in 2018 only has between 12-15% of the market share in cell phones, right? Apple is good to keep around, but they are not an overall threat to the entire market, just like in computers. It is the illusion of competition to keep people buying things... There is a reason that Microsoft bailed Apple out when it almost went bankrupt by buying 30% of the stock. Microsoft and ABC need Apple around and they need their customers to think that they are an actual competitor. It's a marketing ploy, nothing more.

Laughable.

The same search engine would tell you that Apple is slurping up nearly 90% of smartphone profits. Would you rather have the world's large pile of paperclips or the world's largest pile of cash? Cash matters, profits matter. If Microsoft is only allowing Apple to survive to preserve an illusion of competition, as you claim, how do you explain Apple absolutely crushing any hope of Microsoft ever succeeding in the smartphone market?

I do agree that Apple and Microsoft are no longer direct competitors, and haven't been since the iPhone transformed the entire computing industry worldwide. Personal computers from the PC-XT, to the Compaq 386, through generations of Pentiums, to the latest fully built out Core i9 gaming rigs moved workers away from typewriters, moved some gamers away from dedicated consoles, freed scientists and business analysts from waiting in queues for mainframe access, and allowed little Jimmy to send an electronic letter to grandma after he learned how to work around the claptrap inherent in Microsoft's software. All the while Microsoft went on to become enormously successful by slapping a $100 tax on every PC shipped with their operating system installed on it. PCs were all about humans adapting to follow the stringent requirements imposed by the PC and its operating system. It's sit-down, shut-up, and do what you're told if you want to be productive with the PC. The PC and its OS dictates the terms and conditions and users had no choice but to comply, using Microsoft's rules in the vast majority of cases. 

Then the iPhone happened.

The iPhone is the most personal computing device ever created and along with its iPad and Apple Watch siblings has forever changed how the collective mass of humanity interacts with computers, information, recorded knowledge, photography, music, personal communication, social media, news, weather, travel information, entertainment, personal health regimens, and just about every other aspect of modern life of billions of people worldwide. The iPhone flipped the script. The computer adapts to you. You want it in your pocket? There it is. You want it always connected to the world? There it is. You want to talk to it? It talks back. You want it to serve you information, news, music, entertainment, your favorite novels? No problem. Anywhere. Anytime. On your terms, not the terms dictated by a desk anchor and the wizard programming the anchor.  Calling PCs "personal" was like calling early automobile's horseless carriages. We thought PCs were personal, but we were so naive, shortsighted, and ignorant. The iPhone made that reality abundantly clear.   

So yeah, Apple vs Microsoft is a moot point. One company had the Old Way almost all to itself, had us all by the short hairs, dictated its own terms and conditions with little regard to what we really wanted, and imposed a universal tax on its partners and customers. And then they lost, big time, and got slogged down in a tarpit of their own creation. Apple on the other hand, stripped of the burden of playing a game of someone else's making, threw out the Old Way and reinvented the core of the computing universe around truly personal computing, putting a supercomputer in your pocket that reacted to your every need.  The iPhone is today as close to being a man-made appendage to the human form as any device ever created by man. The Old Way, the way dominated by PCs, is not even on the same plane of existence as the iPhone. At some point the iPhone too will appear crude in form, but the functional precedent that it established for personal computing will only be eclipsed when the sensory based man-machine interaction models can be replaced by a more direct integration with the intellectual and cognitive organ perched between our ears.