Soli

macxpress said:

Yeah I can see people getting their hopes up over this...especially those that think Apple should work on an iOS based laptop with a keyboard and mouse. 

There's a lot to unpack with the following paragraph..

Prototypes in circulation boot using an Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI) like Apple's current Intel-based Macs, which the report suggests points to an ARM-powered MacBook convertible. However, the machines are said to run a "derivative" of iOS, not macOS. 

I can see a lot of speculation with little to no actual factual data going into creating that conclusion.

But let's say Apple does have a great hybrid in mind, would it use iOS or macOS as its core? Hopefully people are past the simplistic notion that ARM = iOS and Intel = macOS, but I doubt I could be so lucky. If Apple were to make a hybrid device that can function as both a tablet and as a laptop or docked desktop, how would they do it? Would it be better to start with iOS and then build up the HW/drivers and frameworks needed to then support the new I/O needs for also making it like a Mac? Can macOS be ported over to iOS? Would they even want to, or would they want to use this product as a way to ushering in the future of macOS by creating a very efficient, Swift-based desktop UI for this rumoured "Star."

It wouldn't too off base with how they've brought more efficient code back to the Mac after finding ways to make it more efficient for the iPhone. It's also not like Apple doesn't have a history of multiple UIs being stored on a device, but this would be a completely different undertaking than including CarPlay on an iPhone. At this point, I'm expecting to see an ARM-based Mac before I see an Apple tablet running the iOS UI that will convert to a desktop OS when used in a certain way or plugged into certain HW.

JinTech said:

Soli said:

This is one of the many iOS advances I'd like to see this year. If half the rumours are true then this could be a bang up year for the WWDC keynote.

As LukeCage Apple will never give developers access to the secure enclave. As far as I know, even Apple does not have access to the direct data but someone with more technical could correct me.

The article doesn't read like Apple is opening up the SE, but that doesn't mean there can't be APIs that allow developers more use of it through other HW, like NFC. Third party developers have been able to authenticate via Touch ID and Face ID which is stored on the SE. I see more of that, and none of that is about "[giving] developers access to the Secure Enclave." There's a lot that can be done to allow 3rd party devs to utilize NFC-based communications.

DavidAlGregory said:

nunzy said:

Don't expect too much for Mac. Apple is now a portable device company. The desktop is dead.

The Desktop is not dead, but Apple seems to have forgotten it.
When you see xCode for iOS that can run on iOS, get the nails out for the Mac.

1) macOS and the Mac have never been better.

2) Do you really think Apple is going to kill an extremely profitable portion of their business so you can code on an iPhone and iPad when they already have an excessive number of developers willing to code for their iOS-based devices? I don't. The Mac is a pillar product for the company and getting all iOS developers to own a Mac is icing on the cake.

anantksundaram said:

Ha, some of us never gave up the possibility of Apple getting into autonomous vehicles. This may look modest now, but I wouldn't be surprised if we'll be heating a lot more about it in the next couple of years.

VW is an excellent choice: it has a mass market (volume), but also owns the upscale Audi and Porsche brands (cache). Yes, VW was tarnished by the diesel (Nitrogen Oxide) emissions scandal -- something that might seem to be at odds with Apple's vaunted "green" credentials -- but the company has more than amply penanced for it, with fines and restitutions in the US alone amounting to over $25B. Others such as BMW and M-B are just now being found out as having been involved with similar shenanigans.

1) Just wait for the Luddites to show up and say how dangerous automation in automobiles is for society. Someone might even claim that driving is more art than skill. :eyeroll:

2) Regarding the diesel emissions scandal, that shouldn't be a factor as I assume that all vehicles will be fully electric by the time this goes live.

Since I'm sure someone won't read to the bottom of the article before going to the website and then coming here to say it's not working, here's all you will see if you go there now and you're not part of the current rollout…


Note that "Get started" under "Correct your data" will want you to go to appleid.apple.com, which you've already had access to for years.