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So, now that it is over, what will this be used for?

apple ][ said:

The virus is officially a joke now, as far as I am concerned.

Yeah, I'm not sure I'd say it was a joke, but the extreme over-reaction certainly was. The crazy thing, is that we didn't wear masks at work through the worst of it all, and now that it is over, we have to wear masks.

igorsky said:
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the WHO have already walked this statement back.

Who can trust WHO?

StrangeDays said:
It’s not a joke, you’re just completely ignorant. Again. Simply look at the data... Almost twice as many Americans have been killed by covid as in the Vietnam war. Globally we have a 5.5% mortality rate (400k dead from 7.2 million cases). What part is difficult for you to understand? Oh yeah, the science part. 

My brother and his wife, early fifties, no major issues, were hospitalized and nearly died. You’re just pretending it’s not a big deal because it hasn’t happened to you. The very definition of ignorance. 

It isn't a joke for the people impacted, certainly. The problem is more the scale of that impact, vs the reaction (and scale of the implications).

https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1267174557976166402

GeorgeBMac said:
It's been an ongoing problem where those who know what they're talking about acknowledge grey and ambiguous areas but that is then twisted by those who want clear, unambiguous, black and white answers.   While conversely, those who don't know what they're talking about spew grey, meaningless garbage that they take as clear, black and white and definitive.   

Yep, and that would be mostly the media, and certain scientists with agendas. The data, aside from a lot of uncertainty, is out there and reasonably good. It just doesn't tell the story the alarmists are telling.

TommyCardello said:
3. 35%-75% deaths occurred in nursing homes (% varies in different states, according to different sources. Even highly biased NYT admits that third deaths occurred in NY nursing homes)

And, that's including the fact that the horrific early models caused a lot of leaders to do THE EXACT OPPOSITE of protecting the most vulnerable. If it weren't for the Science™, MSM-hyper-inflation and scare-mongering, and de-platforming of reasonable minds, the death toll would likely be considerably lower. (And, that's not counting the massive death-toll to come.)

The question is whether they will be smart enough to include an audio-in port of some type...

slurpy said:

Even someone who works an hour a day can feel "overworked" while at home with kids.

What the hell is Apple supposed to do, customize the work schedule SPECIFICALLY for every SINGLE employee, that is most ideal for their unique situation? I'm sure Apple is doing what they can based on reasonable limitations and requirements. 

I think the better question is whether they've reduced the expectations (and by how much). Flexibility might not be enough.

Working from home can be quite a challenge, which some handle better than others (even IF the kids are at school). Throw in the whole family at home, and the whole game changes. What I hope doesn't get lost in this 'remote work experiment' is that remote work doesn't have to mean (in normal times) from home. Society would benefit a lot from remote work where groups of employees work in local spaces (rather than big commutes), or from spaces designed for remote-working. Home might work for some, if the home and environment is properly setup (for some), but if that doesn't work, hopefully we don't just decide to throw the idea out.

apple ][ said:

They can always quit their jobs, if they think it's too much to handle.

Nice. Everything gets disrupted... government orders everyone into a situation... and your solution is just 'deal with it?' It isn't like most of these people have just decided to become lazy.

lkrupp said:

tyler82 said:

Shut up and die for capitalism!!!

Spoken like a true follower of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who said that everyone should have a living wage income whether they want to work or not. Then there’s that old Soviet proverb, “They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.”  You’re in good company.

No doubt. I think some of these people need a few more years of reality under their belt. And, possibly a history lesson or two. Sheesh.

ihatescreennames said:

How is it different for Apple employees who are working from home with kids than it is for anybody else working from home with kids?

Probably because Apple is one of those work-a-holic as lifestyle type companies. That just doesn't work unless you're single, or can off-load most of the normal family responsibilities. Too many companies are like that. Some of the smarter ones are starting to recognize the longer-term problems.

ihatescreennames said:
Despite not having to commute an hour each way my wife is putting in MORE hours working from home than when she goes to the office.

Yeah, that is certainly the case for some (my wife included). I'm working less hours, but feel more busy overall.
I keep reading posts by bored people, and thinking... I haven't been bored since I was like 10 years old. If it weren't for the money, I'd love me at least a couple months of quarantine!!!

gatorguy said:
So why are two leading Democratic Senators complaining? Silliness on display, politics invading every good initiative, and putting themselves in the way. Can't they at least take a breather until Covid-19 has been dealt with, which is far more important than petty political differences.

It seems not. If you want to get really pissed off (and informed too), listen to Congressional Dish podcast episode 212:
https://congressionaldish.com/cd212-the-covid-19-response-laws/

The host goes through important points of the response bills, details on how the programs/payments work.... and then how Congress has been acting and doing stuff through this, which quite despicable (and quite bi-partisan).

I guess just assume if they can, they will. And, I'm sure it is *all of the above* in terms of the things the article talks about (some might be legit, but they are also going to take this opportunity to expand their tracking 'rights'). But, I think most of us know this kind of things has been going on anyway.

Wgkrueger said:

I’ve always assumed the carriers have that data irrespective of other software location gathering so why use this rather obtuse method?

Yeah, but this probably contains additional information besides just time/location.

boredumb said:

I'm not clear how this gives any virus-specific info...in which case, it just seems like another attempted excuse to be given access to our phones.

They probably don't have any virus-related info, unless the anonymous aspect has been breached (which it very well may be). But, they can track traffic patterns, and especially analyze them around sites where they know an infection has taken place.