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AppleZulu said:

tiredskills said:

AppleZulu said:

tiredskills said:

AppleZulu said:

MplsP said:

foregoneconclusion said:

tiredskills said:

foregoneconclusion said:

The reason the charging port is on the bottom is due to the original removable battery option. The charging port is in the same location as the latch for the removable battery cover. That allowed Apple to save $$ by keeping the industrial design almost identical between the two different versions. 

That's ok then.  I'm perfectly happy to accept suboptimal design if it contributes to Apple's bottom line.

It would have been suboptimal design without the fast charging capability. But since it could charge for the work day in five minutes, keeping the internal design arrangement almost identical to the removable battery version makes more sense than spending time/money on giving the end user five minutes of tethered work time. 

Ah, the same old, tired “it’s not THAT much of an inconvenience” excuse. The people making it are almost as tired as the excuse is. 

The picture in the article shows just how ridiculous the design is. I was again reminded of the absurdity when I got an alert that the battery on my Magic Keyboard was low. I simply plugged it in and kept working. I suppose what I should have done is turned it upside down and gone to do something else which I must have needed to do anyway while it charged?

The current design keeps people from leaving it plugged in and using it as a wired mouse. Is aesthetics a reason? Maybe.

The real reason is that this is Apple, and they would inevitably have to defend themselves against a class action lawsuit if they designed it the way you want it, because leaving it plugged in would result in wear and damage to the cable and port from repetitive (mis)use as a wired mouse. It wouldn't matter if they plastered warnings all over the place not to use it while it's plugged in. The lawsuit would claim that it was clearly designed so that you could use it while plugged in, knowing that the eventual damage from an intentionally faulty design would result in sales of more replacement cables and mice.

Put the port on the bottom, and while there's lots of truly absurdist bellyaching about it, there are no class action lawsuits. It's a wireless mouse. It's insanely easy to charge it so you can use it wirelessly.

No evidence whatsoever to suggest this would happen.  Completely made up nonsense with little to nothing by way of precedent.  Stop making excuses.

No evidence? Among other things, Apple just paid out on a class-action lawsuit that literally penalized them for extending the usability of older iPhones by preventing them from crashing.

Remember "battery gate"? All lithium batteries become weaker over time. It's a fact. It's physics. It's also a fact that smartphones will crash if the processor demands more peak power than an older, degraded battery can produce in a given time. Apple wrote iOS to adapt in those cases, instead slowing the processor in order to spread out (and thus lower) peak power demand on the battery over time, thereby allowing functions to be carried out, if a bit more slowly, instead of letting the phone simply crash and shut down. While it's true that a phone that gets slower and slower may motivate a user to eventually spend the money to replace it with a newer device, it's also true that a a phone that starts crashing and shutting down will motivate a user to much more quickly replace it with a newer device, because it's not just slow, it's unusable. Apple was actually decreasing demand for iPhone upgrades by enabling older devices to last longer, but the class action lawyers twisted that around, ignoring the facts and creating a narrative that Apple was causing older phones to slow down for no reason in order to promote a planned obsolescence scheme. That's a lie, but it was eventually cheaper for Apple to settle the suit rather than letting it drag out, with that lie continuing to be featured in the public square, and continuing to damage Apple's reputation. 

They did all this without telling users, or offering them any control over their phone's behaviour.  That's why they were sued.  Completely different from your ridiculous prophecy.

That’s not the sort of OS feature that usually gets a press release. Preventing system crashes is generally filed generically under “system improvements” or “bug fix.”  And what sort of user control would you expect for the battery issue? A dialog box that says “Oof! That’s a tough one for your old battery! How would you prefer to handle it? [Temporary slowdown] or [System crash]”

You’re just proving my point. The twisted, litigious response in “battery gate” is a great predictor for how people would respond if Apple put a charging port on the front of the mouse. In some number of cases of misuse of the device as an always-wired mouse would lead to damage to the charging port, people would blame Apple for bad design and sue them for the damage. 

It doesn’t need a press release but it does at least need documentation. That’s exactly what the courts as well as thousands of users and journalists said as well. Software The fact that you think it’s ‘twisted’ logic to expect a company to document how they cripple performance (for whatever reason) speaks volumes.

For the record, I think Apple did this for the right reason (to maintain reliability) rather than to drive upgrades but they were also completely in the wrong to do so without telling anyone. That’s the problem, though - I think this but I can’t prove it. As I’ve said, all they needed to do was to tell people.

AppleZulu said:

MplsP said:

Al Pacino said it best - "what a crock of shit!"

Do you actually believe what you're writing? Is your head really that far up your ass or are you just so in love with Tim that you've lost all rational and critical thinking ability? 

Let's analyze your claim - Apple can't put the plug in a convenient spot because then people will leave it plugged in and wreck the battery and Apple will get sued. And likely go out of business.

What about people's iPhones? they leave them plugged in all night while they sleep even though it takes less than an hour to fully charge them. Somehow iPhone batteries aren't dying left and right. Hmm...maybe Apple's smart enough to have battery management software? No, Apple would never be that smart. And what about the thousands of iPads that are used as kiosks, point of sale systems, etc and stay plugged in 24/7? Wow, they still work! I have a 10 year old iPad that's been repurposed. The battery's long dead but it doesn't matter because it's always plugged in.

Let's look at an even better example, the Magic Keyboard. It lets you do exactly what they should have done with the Magic Mouse. The battery runs low and you can plug it in and keep typing. By some miracle we haven't seen legions of lawyers filing class action suits because people have left their magic keyboard plugged in and the batteries have died. Maybe because it's not an issue?

And Battery gate? Your memory is as weak as your reasoning. Apple got sued because they throttled performance without telling people. One can claim that they did it to protect people or that they did it to surreptitiously drive sales. Because they did it in secret both claims are plausible. Had they simply told people there wouldn't have been an issue. 

Please, if you're going to come up with excuses, at least try to better than a 6th grader could do.

Nice “straw man” argument.  Nobody said the things that you’re responding to. Certainly not me. 

Sorry, but I was responding directly to your claims. If they can’t stand on their own without you calling the rebuttal a ‘straw man argument’ then maybe they can’t stand at all.

I’m not thrilled to hear this but in the end it probably won’t affect me. I prefer to have a bootable external copy of MacOS as an emergency backup incase of a hard drive failure but the solid state drives they use are quite reliable and I can’t think of the last time I’ve had one fail or even heard of one failing. 

If you have your hard drive encrypted what’s the security advantage of preventing an external boot drive?

Fred257 said:

If this is the case it being intentional then Apple needs to be broken up as a company. This clearly is meant to be used against consumers who want to boot from a cheaper alternative to Apples exorbitant and outrageous internal hard drive rip off.

Why would you routinely want to do so? I can see the complaint about cost, but even the smallest drive Apple sells is more than adequate to hold the OS and applications. Why not simply do that and have an external TB drive for data?

Al Pacino said it best - "what a crock of shit!"

Do you actually believe what you're writing? Is your head really that far up your ass or are you just so in love with Tim that you've lost all rational and critical thinking ability? 

Let's analyze your claim - Apple can't put the plug in a convenient spot because then people will leave it plugged in and wreck the battery and Apple will get sued. And likely go out of business.

What about people's iPhones? they leave them plugged in all night while they sleep even though it takes less than an hour to fully charge them. Somehow iPhone batteries aren't dying left and right. Hmm...maybe Apple's smart enough to have battery management software? No, Apple would never be that smart. And what about the thousands of iPads that are used as kiosks, point of sale systems, etc and stay plugged in 24/7? Wow, they still work! I have a 10 year old iPad that's been repurposed. The battery's long dead but it doesn't matter because it's always plugged in.

Let's look at an even better example, the Magic Keyboard. It lets you do exactly what they should have done with the Magic Mouse. The battery runs low and you can plug it in and keep typing. By some miracle we haven't seen legions of lawyers filing class action suits because people have left their magic keyboard plugged in and the batteries have died. Maybe because it's not an issue?

And Battery gate? Your memory is as weak as your reasoning. Apple got sued because they throttled performance without telling people. One can claim that they did it to protect people or that they did it to surreptitiously drive sales. Because they did it in secret both claims are plausible. Had they simply told people there wouldn't have been an issue. 

Please, if you're going to come up with excuses, at least try to better than a 6th grader could do.