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  • Apple uses Messages colors to bully Android users, says Google

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    techconc said:
    gatorguy said:
    A few carriers not yet on board is exactly why Google wants Apple to adopt RCS. As soon as they do all carriers will be pressured to support it. IMO they would have no choice not to. In the meantime, those particular carriers continue tracking and collecting and profiting from your user data gathered from SMS texts. They can't do that with E2EE RCS. 
    Agreed.  However, it comes back to incentive.  Apple already has a solution for their customers.  Google has far more to gain by the industry adopting RCS than Apple does.  

    Also, part of the problem is that I doubt we'll ever see the end of SMS/MMS anytime soon.  There are too many automated services that depend on this service.  Apple provides the premium services, iMessage, for their customers.  They fall back to the lowest common denominator for everyone else.  Imagine now, trying to figure out whether to fall back to the lowest common denominator (SMS) or something in between like RCS.  Why would Apple want to bother with that?  Unless there is a mandate that says SMS is going away by a certain date, I just don't see what incentive Apple has to migrate to RCS before that time. 
    Apple already has a solution for their customers. - There is a problem with this statement. Unless Apple says "iPhone users are NOT supposed to have friends/contacts who own Android phones OR not use Messages App to interact with them in a secure manner", this is very much a problem for Apple's customers in the real world. The majority of the posters who blame Google in this thread seem to think that - Apple's iPhone users should NOT be able to use Messages App to interact with Android phone users in a secure manner. I can't understand how that can be considered as a reasonable stance.
    williamlondon

  • Apple uses Messages colors to bully Android users, says Google

    muthuk_vanalingammuthuk_vanalingam
    gatorguy said:
    Xed said:
    gatorguy said:
    techconc said:
    gatorguy said:

    When Apple finally gives in and dumps SMS as their backup messaging protocol we will all benefit. 
    I agree.  However, I don't think it's so much a matter of "Apple giving in" as much as it is a matter of waiting until RCS has universal support from all carriers.   I don't think Apple wants to have to try to figure out which "fall back" service to use.  SMS/MMS provide the basic necessary functionality.  Yes, it's missing many of the bells and whistles of iMessage and yes, RCS will help close that gap a bit.  Still, RCS is hit or miss in terms of carriers support so it really doesn't make sense for Apple to make that the default backup service just yet.
    A few carriers not yet on board is exactly why Google wants Apple to adopt RCS. As soon as they do all carriers will be pressured to support it. IMO they would have no choice not to. In the meantime, those particular carriers continue tracking and collecting and profiting from your user data gathered from SMS texts. They can't do that with E2EE RCS. 
    So Google calling Apple a bully is really just Google trying to bully and manipulate Apple into adopting something solely for the benefit of Google? That tracks.
    You didn't even read the post before replying did you? YOU benefit. I benefit. YOUR FAMILY benefits. WE ALL benefit. 
    @Xed usually makes well reasoned posts, but this was not one of them. Apple adopting RCS would benefit iOS users primarily, while Android users (outside of US) would not even care/know whether Apple supports RCS or not. This is something that people in this forum do NOT get it since they don't even READ and try to comprehend the information in the posts by you in this thread.
    williamlondon

  • What to expect from the 'iPhone Fold'

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    AppleZulu said:
    Watch. The moment this folding iPhone is out, Samsung will release ultra folding origami phone. 
    Just FYI - Samsung has already launched 3 generations of folding phones. By time Apple comes out with their own version of folding phone (assuming late 2023 at the earliest), Samsung would be on 5th generation of foldable phones.
    And yet, have you ever seen one in the wild? You might have, but I haven't, and they're certainly a rare novelty. Just as the underselling Microsoft Surface hasn't ended up proving how Apple really needs to make a 2-in-1 MacPad Pro, the Samsung folding phone isn't showing Apple how they've missed the boat on this one.
    You have to read my comment in context - it was a response to @ravnorodom who claimed the Samsung would follow Apple's lead on the foldable phones, which is an extremely ridiculous claim to make. 

    I haven't seen one in the wild YET. But that would change, with the foldable phone form factor matures in reliability/utility and prices coming down. And I didn't imply that Apple has missed the boat. It is still a maturing technology and Apple will join this at the right time when it is ready. I do expect that Apple would be launching a foldable phone in late 2023 or 2024.
    williamlondon

  • What to expect from the 'iPhone Fold'

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    12Strangers said:
    muthuk_vanalingam said:
    ravnorodom said:
    Watch. The moment this folding iPhone is out, Samsung will release ultra folding origami phone. 
    Just FYI - Samsung has already launched 3 generations of folding phones. By time Apple comes out with their own version of folding phone (assuming late 2023 at the earliest), Samsung would be on 5th generation of foldable phones.
    Assuming there are still enough people buying them. I personally don’t see any additional functionality but I do see many new points of failure (including the look of it).
    As you would expect, unit sales are pretty low. But that would change soon, as prices keep coming down. On the durability of the hinge design, recently launched Oppo's Find N seems to have the best solution so far. It can only get better from here, so this should not be an issue within 1 or 2 years (If not already).
    williamlondon

  • What to expect from the 'iPhone Fold'

    muthuk_vanalingammuthuk_vanalingam
    ravnorodom said:
    Watch. The moment this folding iPhone is out, Samsung will release ultra folding origami phone. 
    Just FYI - Samsung has already launched 3 generations of folding phones. By time Apple comes out with their own version of folding phone (assuming late 2023 at the earliest), Samsung would be on 5th generation of foldable phones.
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