muthuk_vanalingam

sbdude said:

Interesting take, but where would apple go even if TSMC couldn't crack the 3 nm code? Intel is still on 10 nm, and probably for the foreseeable future since 7 is barely coming online.

Apple will introduce new features in the SoC in the same 3nm node and continue to use TSMC 3nm node for one more year without any trouble. They are already way ahead of competition, this will not be an issue at all for Apple. @blastdoor nailed it already with his comment - It is better to be stuck at 3nm for 3 years than 14nm for 5 years like Intel.

lkrupp said:

gatorguy said:

sdw2001 said:

The pixel looks like a nice device overall.  That said, this “comparison” is really just reading specs off the box.  Almost any AI reader knows that specs don’t necessarily mean a better device.  The article mentions this repeatedly, but only addresses specs and personal preferences.  I’d think it would be more informative and engaging if some real world performance/usage tests were included.  How do each run some popular games and apps?  What was the real world battery life?  How do they feel in your hand?  How about side by side shots of the display? Which was more enjoyable to use and why?  How about chrome vs. safari on the devices?  Just a thought.  

Those things will get reviewed after the phones ship, still a couple weeks away. 

And of course we already know your opinion. The Pixel is vastly superior to any iPhone, right? You are perplexed that anyone would buy an Apple iPhone when the Pixel is so godlike.

Are you aware that GatorGuy is owning an iPhone as well, apart from a Pixel phone? 

randominternetperson said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

nicholfd said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

nicholfd said:

zoetmb said:

laytech said:

Im sure someone has commented above but no Face ID, surely not. Are we still logging in with finger print? Surely not.

So?  I prefer TouchID and I would prefer it on the iPhone as well.    It's easier to stick a finger over there than to have to stare at the camera and be recognized.   Especially on the phone in the car.    I HAVE to buy a new IPhone because I'm currently using an iPhone6 and a lot of the apps won't work anymore and it's bugging me that they won't restore TouchID until next year, so I'm going to be stuck without it. 

And I wouldn't hold my breath "waiting until next year".  No one knows if Apple will ever return Touch ID.  Face ID is superior in almost all scenarios (and is proven more secure), so why return to something that is in general, inferior?

Except when you are wearing masks and try to unlock your phone in the last 1.5 years.

Not if you have an Apple Watch (I do).  My watch unlocks my phone almost as quickly as my face does.  The only time I'm not wearing my watch is when I'm cleaning up/showering.  So not an issue for me.

ps. I did say "almost".

There are 1 billion+ active iPhones in the world, of which at least 700-800 million would be having FaceID. How many of those iPhone owners have Apple Watch to unlock their iPhones? Yes, it is NOT an issue for you. But what about the rest of the world population who do not have Apple Watches?

Edit: My earlier estimate of 700-800 million iPhones with FaceID seems to be on the higher side. For the last 4 years, considering a total of 800 million iPhones sold, it would be between 500-600 million iPhones with FaceID currently active, with earlier generation iPhones (7, 8 and SE series) making up the rest. Even then, the percentage of iPhone users with FaceID but not owning an Apple Watch is a HUGE population and their needs cannot be brushed aside just like that.

We're talking about unlocking Macs here, not iPhones.  AppleWatch + MacBook is a great combination. The only time I use the TouchID on my MacBook is for purchases; otherwise it just logs be in automatically.  I'm sure FaceID would be cool too (and I'll welcome it when it comes), but for the millions of people who own Apple Watches, these new MacBook Pros don't need FaceID.

Well, we (zoetmb, nicholfd and myself) deviated from the original topic of this thread in the last 7-8 posts quite a bit and were debating about TouchID in iPhones. In that context, I stand by what I wrote.

nicholfd said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

nicholfd said:

zoetmb said:

laytech said:

Im sure someone has commented above but no Face ID, surely not. Are we still logging in with finger print? Surely not.

So?  I prefer TouchID and I would prefer it on the iPhone as well.    It's easier to stick a finger over there than to have to stare at the camera and be recognized.   Especially on the phone in the car.    I HAVE to buy a new IPhone because I'm currently using an iPhone6 and a lot of the apps won't work anymore and it's bugging me that they won't restore TouchID until next year, so I'm going to be stuck without it. 

And I wouldn't hold my breath "waiting until next year".  No one knows if Apple will ever return Touch ID.  Face ID is superior in almost all scenarios (and is proven more secure), so why return to something that is in general, inferior?

Except when you are wearing masks and try to unlock your phone in the last 1.5 years.

Not if you have an Apple Watch (I do).  My watch unlocks my phone almost as quickly as my face does.  The only time I'm not wearing my watch is when I'm cleaning up/showering.  So not an issue for me.

ps. I did say "almost".

There are 1 billion+ active iPhones in the world, of which at least 700-800 million would be having FaceID. How many of those iPhone owners have Apple Watch to unlock their iPhones? Yes, it is NOT an issue for you. But what about the rest of the world population who do not have Apple Watches?

Edit: My earlier estimate of 700-800 million iPhones with FaceID seems to be on the higher side. For the last 4 years, considering a total of 800 million iPhones sold, it would be between 500-600 million iPhones with FaceID currently active, with earlier generation iPhones (7, 8 and SE series) making up the rest. Even then, the percentage of iPhone users with FaceID but not owning an Apple Watch is a HUGE population and their needs cannot be brushed aside just like that.

nicholfd said:

zoetmb said:

laytech said:

Im sure someone has commented above but no Face ID, surely not. Are we still logging in with finger print? Surely not.

So?  I prefer TouchID and I would prefer it on the iPhone as well.    It's easier to stick a finger over there than to have to stare at the camera and be recognized.   Especially on the phone in the car.    I HAVE to buy a new IPhone because I'm currently using an iPhone6 and a lot of the apps won't work anymore and it's bugging me that they won't restore TouchID until next year, so I'm going to be stuck without it. 

And I wouldn't hold my breath "waiting until next year".  No one knows if Apple will ever return Touch ID.  Face ID is superior in almost all scenarios (and is proven more secure), so why return to something that is in general, inferior?

Except when you are wearing masks and try to unlock your phone in the last 1.5 years.