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  • Apple's 'iPhone 8' to use 'water drop design' with curved, 3D glass back - report

    mattinoz said:
    Looks like I'll be keeping the 5S till 9 then.
    The justification?
    repressthiswatto_cobra
  • Japanese report backs view Apple's 'iPhone 8' will use 5.8-inch OLED display

    sog35 said:
    cornchip said:
    Curious: back in early 2016 did rumors peg the yet-to-be-announced iPhone SE to be called iPhone 7 because it came after the 6S?

    I'm having a real hard time imagining Apple calling the 10th anniversary model "iPhone 8." What a marketing nightmare if Apple released an iPhone 7s and 8 simultaneously. 
    The 10th anniversary model is a special edition, not a successor to the 7s. Duh, right?
    Was just going to say this myself. Or perhaps this "iPhone 8"  is still a year out? I mean, we've been hearing about the mythical OLED iPhone for years now. I'm a little skeptical we'll see an iPhone7s AND an 8/10th anny/completely different model/tech, at the same time. Then again, what the hell do I know?
    It will be called iPhoneX (10th anniversary phone)
    It will be called iPhone (something). A new marketing term to draw attention to the radically new design. This is marketing 101. Same reason Apple made an iPad Air. This iPad Air launched with a much smaller, thinner, and lighter device, and the name drew attention to that, as the name of this iPhone will draw attention to its new design/features. 
    repressthis
  • Contradictory report cites 5 Apple wireless charging teams on 'iPhone 8,' no tech breakthr...

    AppleZulu said:
    frantisek said:
    I think Apple advantage in this field can be their efficiency and elegance of their inductive charging solution based on patent that relaxes need for strict positioning as mentioned earlier here:
    http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/10/25/apple-invention-uses-ferrofluids-to-enhance-induction-charging-performance
    Apple isn't doing inductive charging with the iPhone. Apple is doing RF-based wireless charging. Even if they didn't get distance-based RF charging, the RF contact charging via Energous chip integration directly into the Dialog power management chips that Apple currently uses is by far the best thing to do. It adds no thickness to the device and the chip is absolutely tiny compared to the coil required for inductive charging. 

    Apple is likely working with Energous to revolutionize wireless charging via distance. It uses 1 tiny chip that is capable of contact clear up to 15 feet of distance charging. Everyone will get contact charging for very cheap and those who want distance will need to buy the transmitter device which I predict is a Siri home device. 
    You seem to have signed up just to promote the idea of a big Apple-Energous collaboration, despite other reports that that's likely not a thing. Did you buy some Energous stock or something?
    I have not bought Energous stock, but I'm strongly considering it. I'm merely promoting evidence as opposed to analyst reports which by definition could be specifically designed to get the stock price to fall because they are shorting it. I'm most interested in wireless distance charging coming to future Apple devices because that is absolutely the most revolutionary thing in smartphones since iPhone's inception. I like technological leaps. Inductive is too boring and borderline useless to draw anything but sighing at Apple's lack of innovation if they do that. 
    watto_cobra
  • Contradictory report cites 5 Apple wireless charging teams on 'iPhone 8,' no tech breakthr...

    frantisek said:
    I think Apple advantage in this field can be their efficiency and elegance of their inductive charging solution based on patent that relaxes need for strict positioning as mentioned earlier here:
    http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/10/25/apple-invention-uses-ferrofluids-to-enhance-induction-charging-performance
    Apple isn't doing inductive charging with the iPhone. Apple is doing RF-based wireless charging. Even if they didn't get distance-based RF charging, the RF contact charging via Energous chip integration directly into the Dialog power management chips that Apple currently uses is by far the best thing to do. It adds no thickness to the device and the chip is absolutely tiny compared to the coil required for inductive charging. 

    Apple is likely working with Energous to revolutionize wireless charging via distance. It uses 1 tiny chip that is capable of contact clear up to 15 feet of distance charging. Everyone will get contact charging for very cheap and those who want distance will need to buy the transmitter device which I predict is a Siri home device. 
    gilly017watto_cobra
  • Wireless charging likely coming to Apple's 'iPhone 8,' but not Energous's long-range solut...

    ireland said:
    I had to make an account just to post to this thread. 

    Firstly, the article states: 'One well-developed technology, Qi, utilizes one coil inside a compatible device phone needing rough alignment with a matching coil on a designated pad. The competing Airfuel specification supports a coil as well as magnetic resonance which does not need to be placed in the same proximity, or accuracy, as a device with a Qi coil.' 

    Maybe you guys should visit the Qi site and read 'Qi encompasses the benefits of both inductive and resonant charging technologies in a versatile standard that eradicates dead battery. Because inductive and resonant technologies have unique use cases and benefits, Qi products are incorporating both to offer the innovative services and features in the most energy-efficient and cost-effective possible.'

    Qi is a standard for both inductive and resonance charging. Moreover, Apple joining Qi is highly likely to influence and get RF wireless charging standardized in the future. Therefore it is my belief that Apple joined Qi not to follow the leader, but to lead them to RF standardization, because Apple plans to use RF. 

    Now, in regards to all of you people posting comments like you have any idea what you're talking about in respect to the effects of this electromagnetic radiation on biochemistry, you don't. Who does know? Well the FCC has an idea based on all of the empirical evidence we have to date, and who knows about the FCC regulations and the physics? The scientists and engineers working at Energous, Dialog Semiconductor, and whomever their first-tier major consumer electronics liscensee is. So, let's leave thinking to the people that have business thinking about it,and by that I mean the people that know anything about it, instead of the people (all of you) who know absolutely nothing about it. As an analogy for you guys, would it be a good idea for NASA to ask you guys how we get to Mars? Yeah, I didn't think so. 

    Finally, I want to point out that this analyst is probably shorting energous' stock. Meaning that they borrowed a bunch of Energous shares at the current price, and sold them, and now they want the price to fall so they can repurchase the stocks at a lower price and pay them back to their loaner to make a profit. There is overwhelming evidence to suggest that Energous will receive FCC approval on the mid-range charging technology, AND that they are partnered with Apple. Dialog Semiconductor which is estimated to get 70-80% of its revenue from Apple, signed a contract and gave Energous $10 million. Dialog is an extremely large billion dollar company and you can bet that they did their due diligence before making a deal with Energous. It's highly possible that Apple specifically mediated the communication between Energous and Dialog to get that deal going, for the purpose of having the supply for Apple. We know Dialog did due diligence and we know Pegatron did, and IF Apple is the tier one partner then you can virtually guarantee that they all strongly believe that the FCC will approve the range charging, and it will come to Apple devices in late 2017.
    So IF (to use your style guide) your theory is correct then Apple will ship this in late 2017. So a conclusion based on a guess. Interesting. Why people have doubts about Energous working with Apple is they are shooting their mouth off. They may not have mentioned Apple by name but if they were working with Apple they would have signed a NDA to not even make a mouse fart. If the past is any indication 99/100 when people are rumoured to be working with Apple based on conclusions from them shooting their mouth off the so-rumoured partnership usually never materialises. We won't know until we know. If I were a betting man I know which side my money would be on.
    It's a guess based on evidence, not a novel thought. Is it conclusive? No. Is it strongly indicative? Seemingly. 

    They did sign an NDA, as energous specifically stated. Their NDA doesn't state 'Do not mention you have any deals with anyone period'. It states "Do not disclose the logistics, strategy, or your partner's name". There is plenty of evidence that suggests the partnership. And absolutely no evidence that suggests Apple is working with anyone else on wireless charging.
    waverboy