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  • If you've got an old macOS install image, it will probably stop working today

    sumergo said:
    ITGUYINSD said:
    Samhain said:
    BigDann said:
    You know there is a very easy fix here!

    The installer looks at its certificates and the systems date. So as long as the systems date is older than the expiring cert the installer won't be the wiser!

    As an example I just installed Sierra on an old 2011 iMac. I altered the systems Date & Time setting to manual and then back dated it to Jan 2017. Restarted the system and then ran the OS installer USB thumb drive I've setup. Once done reset the Date and Time to automatic and its done!
    Workarounds (like yours) are good to know in a pinch. The fix is to download the images, with the new certificate, because setting back a system clock can have unintended consequences.


    Mike you said ‘ The fix is to download the images, with the new certificate,‘ sorry if I am being dense, but how do you do this now the installers are no longer available?
    Most are available now, minus a few. They should all be available by tomorrow.

    The key point, is if you have an install disk or update image that isn't Catalina that's older than about three weeks, you're going to need to replace it.
    Probably a dumb question, but now that the App Store is different, I can't find all the old OS versions (El Cap, Yosemite, High Sierra, etc.).  Where do we get those?
    Not a dumb question. The Medium post has most of them linked. Here they are:

    Sierra: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208202
    High Sierra: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208969
    Mojave: https://support.apple.com/HT210190
    The rest: https://support.apple.com/downloads

    Further back than that, the best way is hitting the App Store from a Yosemite Mac and checking out the Purchased tab -- assuming that's where you got the OS from.
    And (for me at least) each link comes back with:
    "This copy of the install MacOS XYZ application is damaged, and can't be used to install macOS"
    Thats the certificate warning! Now alter your systems date to a date within the OS's life time and disable auto as my example above. Then run the installer again magic! It will install the OS. Now don't forget to reset your date.
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  • If you've got an old macOS install image, it will probably stop working today

    BigDann said:
    You know there is a very easy fix here!

    The installer looks at its certificates and the systems date. So as long as the systems date is older than the expiring cert the installer won't be the wiser!

    As an example I just installed Sierra on an old 2011 iMac. I altered the systems Date & Time setting to manual and then back dated it to Jan 2017. Restarted the system and then ran the OS installer USB thumb drive I've setup. Once done reset the Date and Time to automatic and its done!
    Workarounds (like yours) are good to know in a pinch. The fix is to download the images, with the new certificate, because setting back a system clock can have unintended consequences.


    Apple long since stopped signing the older installers ;-{ They only update the last two OS's now. Besides, its more work resetting up the installer USB drive.

    There's no risks here! As long as you reset the Date and Time back to auto the Apple time server will set things for you. I've done quite a few systems haven't encountered any issues over the last 10 years.
    dysamoriazhiro
  • If you've got an old macOS install image, it will probably stop working today

    You know there is a very easy fix here!

    The installer looks at its certificates and the systems date. So as long as the systems date is older than the expiring cert the installer won't be the wiser!

    As an example I just installed Sierra on an old 2011 iMac. I altered the systems Date & Time setting to manual and then back dated it to Jan 2017. Restarted the system and then ran the OS installer USB thumb drive I've setup. Once done reset the Date and Time to automatic and its done!
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  • Editorial: Manufacturers, it's time to put more USB-C ports on chargers

    MplsP said:
    flydog said:
    Hahahaha. 

    Whoever sold you on the lie of USB-C was doing you no favors. 

    Hold on while we run out and swap all the USB-A ports in everything. 
    Incredible that people perpetuate this nonsense.  
    Have you looked around? Pretty much every single car has a USB A plug. The airplane has a USB A plug. The Hotel has a USB A plug. The combination USB outlet I found at Home Depot is USB A. Virtually every wired mouse and keyboard made is USB A. The only place USB C is at all common is the Apple Store.

    USB A is the standard. It may change in the future, but it will take a long time. Apple putting USB C ports on its computers doesn't magically change the rest of the world. As someone mentioned above, though, except for high power devices like MacBooks, it really doesn't matter for charging. You had a USB A to lightning (or Mini USB or micro USB or...)  cable. If it doesn't need more than 12W, it really doesn't matter if the other end is USB A or USB C. This is also a reason it will take a long time to change. For the majority of uses, people don't need the power capacity of USB C. It's not unlike coming out with 220V appliances and expecting everyone to start putting 220V plugs in their homes.

    USB C is clearly more flexible than USB A - higher power capacity, the ability to handle thunderbolt data in the same port. the problem is, USB C cables are not all the same and can be spec'd differently, so your USB C cable may work for charging but not for thunderbolt or vice versa, essentially adding a whole lot of confusion to the picture.
    The USB standards group messed up!

    The USB-C connector is not built to handle higher current flows newer laptops will be needing (you can blame Intel for that).

    They also failed to define a clear marking for USB-C cables so power only cables can be id'ed from data only cables or other possible configs.

    For now its a USB-A world and will be for quite a few years. Don't forget USB-A is still a cheaper solution which is ideal for slower I/O like mice, trackpads, printers and scanners. Many engineering & medical lab systems still use USB-A and I don't see them changing 80~150k devices out just to get a USB-C connection when it is overkill for what they need.

    Is USB-C a good thing? Yes! For data for sure! Power is a bit iffy as long as phones and laptops don't need more power to charge their batteries then it should work (80 watt is about the break point, anything more could cause the cable and connectors to overheat).
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